Player of the season again and absolutely dedicated to United, the way a good amount of our fans view and treat him is a joke
The Bruno Fernandes appreciation thread
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I love him but i really hope he doesnt end up as our best choice in center midfield. We need bruno behind the striker please and we have to bring another CM ffs
Be miserable on your own and stop spreading it, thank you.
Preseason Pirlo so far!
it is adorable how attached some fans get to certain managers. Did you reply to the hundreds of posters who pointed out the flaws in Ten Hag's style of play whilst he was still employed as Manchester United manager?I love Bruno. The only player's name I've ever had on a shirt post-Fergie is his.
But having heard him speak in no way was this a "I want to stay at Man Utd" speech. This was a "I don't want to go to Saudi" speech.
He was clearly empted to go and was in midst of talks with Saudi when playing the Europa League final and believes he can still play at the top level. To me that means if a top club playing in the Champions League comes for him, he will be off.
At no point did he mention wanting to remain at Man Utd definitively.
But if we can rebuild this team properly this time around him it would be truly amazing.
But having heard him speak in no way was this a "I want to stay at Man Utd" speech. This was a "I don't want to go to Saudi" speech.
He was clearly empted to go and was in midst of talks with Saudi when playing the Europa League final and believes he can still play at the top level. To me that means if a top club playing in the Champions League comes for him, he will be off.
At no point did he mention wanting to remain at Man Utd definitively.
But if we can rebuild this team properly this time around him it would be truly amazing.
Except that Vitinha plays in a 3 man midfield, so they collectively cover the middle of the pitch. Added bonus is that Neves, Ruiz and himself are all press resistant, can receive the ball on the half-turn and carry it forward.. Sadly, these are attributes that neither Bruno nor Casemiro/Ugarte excel at.
I think I’ll just wait for you to point out some current managerial flaws. Waiting I am, with thousands of others, with bated breath.
Meanwhile in the Oshimen thread, tantrums about him choosing Saudi money
Respect his decision to reject the money to stay at a higher level, there's not many who would do that.
We have had some lads who were not even willing to run about for Utd. Bruno is by a mile our best player, has been for years and has now commited to a reality where he is £500k+ worse off every single week to play for Man Utd. And he is the one that a lot of fans slate.
He probably just didn't want to play in a non competitive obscure league when he is still good enough to get in the starting line up for all but a very few club sides in the world.
No criticism of him at all. He's earned the right to do what he wants. The club basically tried to offload him as a cash cow and if a top European side came in for him he'd be 100% within his rights to turn that around in them
No criticism of him at all. He's earned the right to do what he wants. The club basically tried to offload him as a cash cow and if a top European side came in for him he'd be 100% within his rights to turn that around in them
You don't think a 29% win ratio might be an indication that he has some flaws? The main one for me is that he sticks dogmatically to a system and shows no flexibility.
Anyway, it's a conversation for a separate thread. Right now, I'm just happy that Bruno will be around to help make the worst United period in my lifetime slightly less grim.
Maybe he just really, really loves Man Utd. He's been pretty clear about it.
In Amorim’s 3-4-3, Cunha and Mbuemo are going to be the 10s. So how is Bruno going to play behind the striker without leaving a massive gap in midfield for, say, Casemiro to plug on his own?
Absolute recipe for disaster.
He can wave his arms around in frustration as much as he wants from here on.
It's genuine.
It's genuine.
There's a box in the middle comprised of various different players at various different times in both systems.
Across mbuemo, Cunha, Ugarte and Bruno there's enough legs
Across Vitinha, Neves, Ruiz, +1 there's enough legs
Across Jorginho, Kante, havertz, Mount there's enough legs
Ability to play on the half turn is unrelated to the discussion of does the team have enough legs but I'd say Cunha and Mbuemo / Amad can happily do that
Ana you legend
"Dreams can't be buy"
He lives true to his words
He lives true to his words
This is a forum to discuss opinions and if you are triggers by disagreements go to the forest.
120m for Bruno would have given the opportunity to revuild further. 2nd, he is highly inconsistent yet we are dependent on him. Having further players to create and score would have been a step forward
So where should he play? As a 10 I dont think so, and as a CM it is not good enough
I think we’re going to see a more disciplined Bruno next season, taking up one of the CM slots, working hard from a much deeper position and enjoying having the game ahead of him with quality outlets to feed.
He’s going to start his transition back to 6 like Scholes did around his age.
He’s going to start his transition back to 6 like Scholes did around his age.
Was thinking Rooney in his later years, he was also deployed in CM at times. Would argue Bruno is quite a bit more suited than that role
I don’t think Rooney ever played the disciplined 6 like Scholes though. He definitely played an all action box to box 8 but I think Bruno’s going to evolve into more of a deep lying playmaker using his passing to unlock the transitions for Cunha and hopefully Mbeumo.
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There are numerous threads you could have gone in to to post a Bruno bashing comment and you chose the “Bruno appreciation thread” to do so?
We’ll see. He’s had plenty of great performances where he’s been disciplined in a deeper role, but he’s never been capable of doing that consistently. It’s tempting to think it’s more about the opposition than Bruno actually being all that disciplined. I honestly think he has as much hope of being disciplined as Rooney had being a centre midfielder, or Alan Smith as a defensive midfielder because he was an aggressive attacking player.
Obviously Scholes set a high standard, but there’s quite a few skills involved that i just don’t see in Bruno. Scholes always had a knack for feeling the tempo, when to take an extra touch, when to invite pressure, when to instantly get rid of the ball. Receive the ball, pass it and instantly make space for himself to receive it again, not just to be involved in the game but also to make sure that players around him always had an option. Long range passing, short range passing. How many times did Bruno give away the ball to Tottenham in the Europa League final because they read the pass ages before he attempted it, probably more times than Scholes had his short passes intercepted in his whole fecking career.
Kudos to Bruno for turning down an insane offer to play in Saudi.
I dont think fans need to outline where Bruno fits in... Amorim needs to.
The fact that he had the choice of telling Bruno, he doesnt suit in his sytem, get 100m and spend it on players, he decided its better to keep Bruno
Now, I do not believe anyone is naive enough to think that Ruben doesn't understand the pressure he will be under next season, so he must have a plan to have Bruno in his starting line up.
What are you the thread police? I gave valid arguments
No not the thread police, just calling out the strangeness. As I said, happy to hear valid arguments etc in the correct threads, that’s the whole point of having different threads.
Bruno should gain a lot of respect. Even from rival fans that hate him. At nearly 31 he turned down a mega amount of money and a chance to play under less pressure in the Saudi league but decided to stay in a more competitive league with less money. We’ve seen players in their early 20s go over to Saudi for the money. Bruno’s different level
Wanted him gone for the rebuild but respect for him choosing to stay.Could work well with some new signings around him.We go again.
In a time when everyone is hating on the attitude and mindset of the current football player (justified in most cases), I for one salute you, Bruno. He’s backing up his words with actions. He’s certainly gained even more of my respect.
Assuming Cunha and Mbuemo are the starting 10s, and Amorim is not going to go rogue and play him as a permanent false 9, the only logical position he fits in for Amorim is one of the 2 holding midfield positions, where he doesn't have the pace, mobility, physicality or positional discipline to play effectively.
And where his g/a output is going to decline.
And where we don't have the legs around him to compensate.
But I can well see Amorim playing him every minute of every game there next season. Who knows, maybe it'll work out, we'll see.
If you want to dominate games, the 2 CM's are not holding midfielders.
For instance, if we play the Amorim way which is to have wing backs pushed up... we have attack of 3 players... Bruno can push and still occupy spaces in the CAM position with 1 DM and 3 CB's behind.
A bit like when you play a 4-3-3 and have full backs overlapping, you only really have 2 CB's and 1 CM covering... we still would have that.
Then off the ball, as long as everyone works hard, we should be fine.
He really needs to cut out the errors, though — he can fluff a simple sideways lay-off and end up handing the ball straight to the opposition. None of the backheels and flicks if he's playing centrally — that should be the absolute bare minimum. I'm not convinced he's got it in him to stop making those daft mistakes.
As I said I think he will play with more disciple and responsibility and what you’ve mentioned is part of that. I’m hoping that with Cunha, Mbeumo and hopefully a 9 ahead of him he won’t feel the same burden of creative responsibility so naturally won’t try to force it so much. He’s a world class player and he’s got world class game intelligence too so I’m hoping he can mature his game into more of a 6.
Imagine this creative machine behind Gyokeres, Cunha and Mbuemo. We’d surely be title contenders. They’ve got like 100 goals between them last season.
I meant that Bruno should play in one of the 10s positions. I dont see Cunha or Mbuemo pulling out Brunos G/A numbers
They both literally outscored Bruno in g/a last season.