Ayoba
Poster of Noncense.
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At least we now have 3m more to spend on a left back
Or cover Rashfords wages for 3 months
At least we now have 3m more to spend on a left back
It’s genuinely staggering at how little we recoup for some of these players in comparison to how Chelsea and City operate?
Thought that was why we got Barada and Wilcox in from City in the first place?
£3m for an academy lad that has played 1st team football for Utd is a joke - who does these deals!
This is what I mean when I say there’s something massively wrong with us in that department and gave countless examples on here a few days ago where far smaller clubs have sold players for so much more than us to other clubs even smaller, whether it’s our loan department or our negotiating team I’m not sure but Collyer going for £3 million when he’s played PL and European football is simply fecking insaneIt’s genuinely staggering at how little we recoup for some of these players in comparison to how Chelsea and City operate?
Thought that was why we got Barada and Wilcox in from City in the first place?
£3m for an academy lad that has played 1st team football for Utd is a joke - who does these deals!
Those wages are another weight around our necksI am starting to wonder now whether United are actually not keen to sell Rashford themselves looking at the current market. They probably feel that a replacement would cost a lot more and so are penny pinching. I understand his wages but every other winger on the market has been sold.
Blimey that truly is pitiful isn't itSo let’s recap who we’ve offloaded and for how much (I’ll add them as you call them out). I’ve only included the guaranteed fees as we don’t know if all the bonus will be triggered
Hojlund £38m
Casemiro Free
Vitek £7m
Collyer £3m
Fredricson nominal/unknown
Sancho Free
Malacia Free
Probably for the same reasons as Rashford.Zirkzee should have been told to find a new club at the end of last season. No manager has used him.
Why are we letting him decide if he wants to stay?
Can get it with Rashford due to wages, not this guyProbably for the same reasons as Rashford.
If Rashford was on Zirkzee's wages, he would have been sold for a pretty penny. If Zirkzee was on a quarter of the wage, he would be gone. He was given a long contract so we are hamstrung with the amount we need to ask for to turn a profit. He is just a really bad purchase.Can get it with Rashford due to wages, not this guy
I do t think they are comparable; I can’t imagine Zirkzee is on massive wages and if he has any ambition, he should want to play football. He s been here a couple of years now and we only paid about £35m. he’s not been that bad that he’s not worth two-thirds of that as a transfer fee.Probably for the same reasons as Rashford.
In no way do I want us to do transfers more like Chelsea.It just irks me that what’s being reported largely seems to be be ‘if he wants to go, we’ll look at options but if he wants to stay then that’s fine’. Do you think Chelsea gave Liam Delap an option?
So let’s recap who we’ve offloaded and for how much (I’ll add them as you call them out). I’ve only included the guaranteed fees as we don’t know if all the bonus will be triggered. Loans not included
Hojlund £38m
Casemiro Free
Vitek £7m
Collyer £3m
Fredricson nominal/unknown
Sancho Free
Malacia Free
Total to date £48m
Note I’m not listing loansBayindir, Scanlon, Ogunye and the lad that moved to Dundee.
But some loans have loan fees so it’s also part of net transfer spendNote I’m not listing loans
It’s hard to find the info for all loan players hence why i dont list it. If you can find that info let me knowBut some loans have loan fees so it’s also part of net transfer spend
So let’s recap who we’ve offloaded and for how much (I’ll add them as you call them out). I’ve only included the guaranteed fees as we don’t know if all the bonus will be triggered. Loans not included
Hojlund £38m
Greenwood 10-20m depending on clause 40/50%
Casemiro Free
Vitek £7m
Collyer £3m
Fredricson nominal/unknown
Sancho Free
Malacia Free
Scanlon Free
Ogunye Free
Total to date £48m
That's a bit odd to not want us to sell our unwanted players for huge fees.In no way do I want us to do transfers more like Chelsea.
In order to sign players from the club we sell them to for inflated fees?That's a bit odd to not want us to sell our unwanted players for huge fees.
Yeah we are the epitome of bad luck on thisWe are very unfortunate that we seem to be the only club whose players are not mercenaries. We’ve been the only club unable to get a slice of the Saudi pie, when we could have made hundreds of millions there in recent years if our available players did not simply refuse to go there.
Saudi clubs have been interested in Rashford for a couple of years. A player of his profile would have probably gotten us at least 70m. But he isn’t interested in Saudi money. Or Turkish money. Only Spanish money. Antony had Saudi interest last summer but alas, Betis or nothing. Casemiro a year ago. Refused to go to Saudi. Garnacho - no to Saudi, Chelsea only. Even Bruno, who of course was not dead wood, but another case where 100m was on the table but the player refused.
There are probably others I can’t think of right now, but our players don’t make it easy on us. Then we get bad luck with Ugarte who seemed to have suitors where there was mutual interest.
Who did Chelsea sign from Forest in exchange for selling them Delap?In order to sign players from the club we sell them to for inflated fees?
I’d rather us be a football club than some player trading platform.
Probably coming on Tuesday, don't know who thoughWho did Chelsea sign from Forest in exchange for selling them Delap?
Erm Garnacho and Hojlund?Loan, end of contract, minimal fee....i cant remember a good sale weve made since dan james....and before that got to go back nearly as far.
Even CollyerErm Garnacho and Hojlund?
Think he meant straight sales not loan with obligationErm Garnacho and Hojlund?
Hoijlund was a loss wasnt it? Yeah forgot garnacho though, at time didnt seem great but yes can add that one, fair pointErm Garnacho and Hojlund?
Gone out on loan, hopefully he smashes it
Woody certainly ruined the wage structure and Ten Hag was given far too much say on transfersWoodward and Ten Hag ruined us. I don't blame the players, most players won't say no to us especially on massive wages.
Gone out on loan, hopefully he smashes it
Yeah hopefullyNot a very good team, but hopefully he will be a starter there and gain lot of experience
Those three have screwed up wage structureToo many 'won't go' players we can't sell to buyers for higher fees - Zirkzee, Rashford included
Too few buyers for 'will go' players - hence we're selling to EFL clubs for low fees
Source: Woodward, Murtough and Ten Hag