Dude the Bundesliga is a shield so that isn´t a trophy either?
The Community Shield is a trophy!
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Of course not. it's a shield.
We laughed when liverpool won their plastic cup treble 15 odd years ago and now we are calling the Charity Shield a trophy?
Fine - its an award of sorts but its not important. Its a charity match with a shield given at the end of it.
Fine - its an award of sorts but its not important. Its a charity match with a shield given at the end of it.
jokingly
Ok got it..
The Community shield nor the Super cup are major trophies.
It's so annoying when they are counted. When Barca win these sort of trophies they are always counted as being important.
It's so annoying when they are counted. When Barca win these sort of trophies they are always counted as being important.
The summer's happening. Strap it for a helluva ride.
The community shield always has been and always will be a glorified friendly.
It raises loads of money for charity and its a good day out (win or lose), but thats it. In the scheme of all things football, it rates below the national league (thats conference to us old timers) playoff final
It raises loads of money for charity and its a good day out (win or lose), but thats it. In the scheme of all things football, it rates below the national league (thats conference to us old timers) playoff final
It started as a friendly to raise money for the community, hence the "community" shield part. It's a glorified friendly but of course Sky try to big it up as something major.
that gave me a good laughOn a serious note, I think it's bizarre anyone would consider it an actual trophy.
Treble?
Here's how i value the trophies.
1 Champions League Trophy = 4-5 EPL Trophies
1 EPL trophy = 4 FA Cups
1 FA Cup = 2 Europa League Trophies
1 Europa League Trophy = 1 League Cup
1 League Cup = 20 Community Shields.
So I would rather win Champions League once and be the best in Europe than win 800 Community Shields, a charity match between 2 teams. Of course this doesn't factor into the fact that competing in the Community Shield means you would have already won a major trophy. However people using this argument are really just trying to find justification to double count a league or FA cup trophy. I don't see anyone saying LVG won two trophies with us because he actually won the ICC (a harder competition than the CS) in his first season here? Yet we want to say Mourinho won a treble?
1 Champions League Trophy = 4-5 EPL Trophies
1 EPL trophy = 4 FA Cups
1 FA Cup = 2 Europa League Trophies
1 Europa League Trophy = 1 League Cup
1 League Cup = 20 Community Shields.
So I would rather win Champions League once and be the best in Europe than win 800 Community Shields, a charity match between 2 teams. Of course this doesn't factor into the fact that competing in the Community Shield means you would have already won a major trophy. However people using this argument are really just trying to find justification to double count a league or FA cup trophy. I don't see anyone saying LVG won two trophies with us because he actually won the ICC (a harder competition than the CS) in his first season here? Yet we want to say Mourinho won a treble?
I'd take a Europa League over the FA cup any day of the week, let alone the League Cup. European trophies are hard to come by, we've all got a pile of FA and League cups.
Europa League is now far more important than the FA Cup. Nowadays the FA Cup ranks marginally better than the League Cup.
I mean we sacked Van Gaal pretty much the day we won the FA Cup! There's no way clubs value it highly now.
I mean we sacked Van Gaal pretty much the day we won the FA Cup! There's no way clubs value it highly now.
Good job clearing that up as quick as you did there.
A trophy but the least importatnt one. Also I think until around 2004/5 it was shared if it ended in a draw so I woudn't count as one till after that. Which does nicely for us to leap way ahead of the Scousers. 
The least important trophy that named and looks like a shield.
Low valued because of its less impactful history and the connections with Charity, sounds like a friendly game.
Still, it's like a bonus first trophy to be won, whom only the EPL and FA cup holder can battle to win.
Better to win it than not, beating the other winning team from last season is pleasing.
Low valued because of its less impactful history and the connections with Charity, sounds like a friendly game.
Still, it's like a bonus first trophy to be won, whom only the EPL and FA cup holder can battle to win.
Better to win it than not, beating the other winning team from last season is pleasing.Very little between the League cup and the FA Cup these days, the Europa league ranks comfortably above both.
Champions League > Premier League.
European cup competitions>Domestic cup competitions.
Nah it wasn't that late it was in 93 they stopped sharing it.A trophy but the least importatnt one. Also I think until around 2004/5 it was shared if it ended in a draw so I woudn't count as one till after that. Which does nicely for us to leap way ahead of the Scousers.
Pretty basic stuff, to be honest.
Was a good WUM until 'racism' I knew it was a joke then.
Still good though
Still good though
I rate 1st in England over 17th best in Europe.
And how are you first in England if you win the FA Cup exactly?
Seeing as it's the 2nd biggest domestic prize in England.
Racism
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The Executive Trophy
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It is a trophy, but just one that ranks beneath the FA Cup and League Cup.
Also try telling Athletic Bilbao fans that domestic supercups aren't trophies!
Also try telling Athletic Bilbao fans that domestic supercups aren't trophies!
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FFS.
The community shield is a friendly, the Emirates cup also isn't a trophy, neither is that weird champions cup thing in the summer.
Merlins beard.
The community shield is a friendly, the Emirates cup also isn't a trophy, neither is that weird champions cup thing in the summer.
Merlins beard.
Didnt read the comments but finishing 2nd may get it for you in case a team wins the PL and the FA cup
Good one @Needham
Executive trophy
You can make about 7 subs, so it's clearly not a proper game.
It's a trophy. It goes in our trophy cabinet and no team goes out there to "lose"
Bravo to both of you. Why are people still having an actual discussion?
No one goes out anywhere to lose, not even a testimonial.
Because every team in England competes in it so naturally first place goes to the best in England. In Europa League the best 16 teams in Europe don't compete. Naturally the winner is whichever team is 17th best in Europe.
Feckin' hell. The Cambodian bloke? I thought he was dead.
Brilliant
So Arsenal are the best team in England?
I think not, that logic still doesn't make much sense to me. Winning a random knockout cup competition with six rounds against teams in your own country is much easier than winning the Europa. Which is a group stage plus 4 home/away knockout rounds vs teams from all over Europe. The vast majority of people rank european cup competitions above domestic cups.
If you win the FA Cup you qualify to the higher competition which is the Europa League and in previous years the Cup Winners Cup. Which say it all really.
No it isn't.
A quick look at the subsequent posts in this thread suggest otherwise.