The biggest problem is that some refs book a player for diving and some not. Payet dived at Old Trafford and he didnt get a second yellow, of course people are pissed when they see staff like that. Either you book everyone or no one.
The replays show that he checks to make sure where the defender is and then he sort of pirouettes into him. It's an absolutely blatant dive, and he's done it before.
Except that there can be contact but no pen meaning you might not think it's a dive but also not a pen. Plus, the refs supposedly shouldn't give a penalty unless they're 100% sure, and shouldn't give a card unless 100% sure it was a dive - whilst an easy out there'll be plenty of circumstances where one of the above is viable and genuine and it shouldn't be a black and white case of card or penalty.
im talking about clear dives mate not about the situations you are mentioning. Same goes with giving yellow cards for kicking the ball after the ref blows a whistle, some give yellow some dont and of course people are going to be pissed when their player gets a yellow and they saw xy times that player doesnt get punished because of that.
Foul on Randolph lead to our goal.
A foul on Schweinsteiger led to our goal, which West Ham then tried to pretend was him fouling someone else because one of their players was dumb enough to push him into their own goalkeeper.
Legs come together when Vardy kicked backwards, and was already on his way down. That was basically Moss' only correct pen decision.
Should he get in trouble for telling the obvious truth?
To be fair though, you could have watched the Vardy incident 100 times in slow motion and still not got a definitive answer. A video ref would still just be giving an opinion the same as the ref, these incidents are all down to individual perception. I can't see how a video ref could have changed Moss' decision with any degree of certainty.
You're right there. Who'd be a ref?
Never. I give them as much stick as the next fan to be honest, but I do realize that they're so often in a lose-lose situation. Had he spared Vardy, West Ham fans would've been pissed and with reason. Had he not given them the pen, they'd have said he's corrupt and is giving everything to Leicester. Had he not given the penalty at the end, some people would say it should've been one and he was just trying to even it out.
I thought he got all 3 decisions right, Vardy deserved a yellow for diving and both penalties were correct. To be fair, the Vardy incident looked like a stonewall penalty to me at the time, but looking at replays he dived, and I initially thought the foul for Leicester's penalty was outside the box before the replays. I don't think Morgan could complain about West ham's penalty.
He's been doing that for ages and getting away with it. It's the old story, the more they get away with the more blatant they become because they think they'll always get away with it. After this, every ref will be doubtful every time he goes down in the box.
I'm afraid that diving has moved on a level, some players would go down easily looking for a penalty, then players started to go down with no contact and now some players (especially Vardy) have taken it to another level again by throwing their own legs into those of the defender.
I agree with everything you've said except the bolded part. Although by the letter of the law you are correct, in practice most referees will show some common sense when applying a second yellow, and allow a degree of leniency. It's why so many on here were raging at Mike Dean for producing a second yellow for Mata at West Brom a few weeks ago.
But they shouldn't, and they aren't consistent with it, that's the problem.
