The Epstein Files : Released/redacted | Andrew arrested

Trump doesn't care about Massie going after criminals in the Epstein files, he just cares about his own crimes being exposed.
 
Massie being labelled “disloyal to the United States”. Why can’t the simpletons see why he’s saying that? Dumb feckers, ignorant feckers, feckers
 
Trump's DoJ dropped right in the shit here. The question is, do we trust his new, far, far worse DoJ to be honest about anything they find at the ranch in New Mexico?


Now that is a bombsbell revelation.
Bill Barr has questions to answer.
 

That's not really true though is it? Richard Kahn and his lawyer changed their answer FOUR TIMES!

Also the link you provided is pretty scarce on information.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/richard-kahn-jeffrey-epstein-accountant-testimony/

That one gives a better report and understanding of things but it's clear both Epstein's accountant and his lawyer are not on the same page and Kahn is hiding things.

First Richard Kahn testified the woman did receive a eettlement. Then the same afternoon during his deposition when asked about the woman again, he and his lawyer said they were mistaken and they didn't recognise the lady in question as someone who had filed a claim against the Epstein estate.

The very next day (March 12th) Kahn's lawyer stold Democratic oversight staff attorneys that the lady they called Jane Doe 4 had in fact filed a claim but it had been denied and no settlement had been reached. That was also found to be untrue.

However, again later that very same day Kahn's lawyer called back and said he could no longer stand by the previous claim that no settlement had been reached and he could neither confirm or deny wether a settlement had actually occured.

So, in total they gave four different answers within a day of the initial testimony. They said that they had become uncertain they recognised the lady in question due to there being so many women involved, they made nearly 200 settlements in total. They also said because she was never referred to by name they couldn't be sure if she was one of those women or not.

I think it's quite obvious they either couldn't get their story straight or agree on what was going to be said. It's also very likely, there was pressure or interference and possibly threats from other parties as to what should be said.

I personally think the final response given shows that there was indeed a payment made, but that's just my opinion. The committee have asked for Kahn to come clean about what he knows as they are unhappy at his responses to not only this question but many others they asked him too. He originally testified he had no knowledge of Epstein's involvement with any sex trafficking ring or abuse of any women or underage girls.

Again, as with everything surrounding this whole disgusting business, the truth appears to be behind hidden. Like Ghislaine Maxwell, Kahn is repeatedly changing his testimony and his answers to the questions he's asked.
 
That's not really true though is it? Richard Kahn and his lawyer changed their answer FOUR TIMES!

Also the link you provided is pretty scarce on information.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/richard-kahn-jeffrey-epstein-accountant-testimony/

That one gives a better report and understanding of things but it's clear both Epstein's accountant and his lawyer are not on the same page and Kahn is hiding things.

First Richard Kahn testified the woman did receive a eettlement. Then the same afternoon during his deposition when asked about the woman again, he and his lawyer said they were mistaken and they didn't recognise the lady in question as someone who had filed a claim against the Epstein estate.

The very next day (March 12th) Kahn's lawyer stold Democratic oversight staff attorneys that the lady they called Jane Doe 4 had in fact filed a claim but it had been denied and no settlement had been reached. That was also found to be untrue.

However, again later that very same day Kahn's lawyer called back and said he could no longer stand by the previous claim that no settlement had been reached and he could neither confirm or deny wether a settlement had actually occured.

So, in total they gave four different answers within a day of the initial testimony. They said that they had become uncertain they recognised the lady in question due to there being so many women involved, they made nearly 200 settlements in total. They also said because she was never referred to by name they couldn't be sure if she was one of those women or not.

I think it's quite obvious they either couldn't get their story straight or agree on what was going to be said. It's also very likely, there was pressure or interference and possibly threats from other parties as to what should be said.

I personally think the final response given shows that there was indeed a payment made, but that's just my opinion. The committee have asked for Kahn to come clean about what he knows as they are unhappy at his responses to not only this question but many others they asked him too. He originally testified he had no knowledge of Epstein's involvement with any sex trafficking ring or abuse of any women or underage girls.

Again, as with everything surrounding this whole disgusting business, the truth appears to be behind hidden. Like Ghislaine Maxwell, Kahn is repeatedly changing his testimony and his answers to the questions he's asked.
I'm not disputing any of those facts. The Tweet, given its character limit, suggested there was clear evidence of one thing when the reality is muddier. I provided the link I did as those were House Democrats and individuals who would be looking for wrongdoing.

We have an unreliable witness and a constantly changing story. That may be because of pressure, or it may just be a very bad witness.
 
Why doesn’t Tbag just pardon himself now, and save everyone a lot of existential pain, instead of waiting for his party to get trounced in the next election? He’s said that the President can pardon himself, and it’s going to be a constitutional crisis when tries to pull that rabbit out of his hat.
 
Why doesn’t Tbag just pardon himself now, and save everyone a lot of existential pain, instead of waiting for his party to get trounced in the next election? He’s said that the President can pardon himself, and it’s going to be a constitutional crisis when tries to pull that rabbit out of his hat.

There's a few State investigations going on and one of the Dems said he was going to see if they could get the crimes tried in the states they happened in simply because they are expecting Trump to pardon anyone of Federal crimes. I recall a plea for all states to carry out their own investigations too.

I sincerely hope that is true. I'm at work and can't find the article or Tweets I saw about this but this article here seems to be saying the same thing.

https://medium.com/@carmitage/all-50-states-could-investigate-and-prosecute-45a2889c5a15
 
Whats the thinking on Trump Epstein stuff then... is there anything on him and will we ever know?
He is definitely implicated in them and is obviously fighting tooth and nail to stop them coming out.

Pretty sure it will all come out eventually but it seems that being a pedophile in power in the States isn’t the end for you.
 
He is definitely implicated in them and is obviously fighting tooth and nail to stop them coming out.

Pretty sure it will all come out eventually but it seems that being a pedophile in power in the States isn’t the end for you.

It helps when you have total control over the House, Senate, Department of Justice and the majority of judges and courts, including the Supreme Court

It also helps when the entire Republican party except 2 are absolute fecking pussies. A bunch of bootlicking grifters who will pander to your every need just so they can stay in power and grift and get their ideology implemented throughout the country.

It's by far the most corrupt regime the USA has ever known.
 
We just have to accept none of these high profile politicians, billionaires etc will face any justice, the pedo/rapist network runs too deep and they will do everything to protect each other. We may see some lower profile guys like Madelson and Andrew face some justice but that's it. It's demoralising that we are governed by such disgusting people.
 
I'm not disputing any of those facts. The Tweet, given its character limit, suggested there was clear evidence of one thing when the reality is muddier. I provided the link I did as those were House Democrats and individuals who would be looking for wrongdoing.

We have an unreliable witness and a constantly changing story. That may be because of pressure, or it may just be a very bad witness.

You think maybe he's genuinely this confused? Hard to believe many witnesses honestly give 4 accounts in 1 day. I think he's a liar.
 
You think maybe he's genuinely this confused? Hard to believe many witnesses honestly give 4 accounts in 1 day. I think he's a liar.

Well the initial tweet said:

"Yesterday, Jeffrey Epstein's former account testified, under oath, that the Epstein Estate paid a settlement to one of the women accusing Donald Trump of raping her as a minor, AFTER Epstein had died.This would end any other President instantly. But the press doesn't care."

My point was that this was not accurate.

The accountant's testimony was not definitive. They did change their story but there was no positive confirmation like the tweet suggested. I then linked to a statement from two House Democrats (hardly sympathetic to Trump), and their take on this was more measured then the tweet as well.

All I would say is that the sheer number of women and girls who were trafficked and abused (and paid off and silenced) could suggest that there was a genuine confusion here. It is also possible that they are lying and covering up.

My only point was that the initial presentation of this testimony was not accurate, and suggested that the media was not reporting a story, but the story was not as it was presented.
 
We all know he's a pedophile. It's generally baffling there's isn't a huge uproar about this in America. Have the general public given up or do they just not give a shit that they're being run by a pedo?
 
We all know he's a pedophile. It's generally baffling there's isn't a huge uproar about this in America. Have the general public given up or do they just not give a shit that they're being run by a pedo?
Both I suspect...
 
We all know he's a pedophile. It's generally baffling there's isn't a huge uproar about this in America. Have the general public given up or do they just not give a shit that they're being run by a pedo?
They probably don't give a.shit. Then again it's probably a cultural thing. Imagine the backlash if it were a nation that we hated. Then again that type of shit is saved for other groups...and nations.
 
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They probably don't give a.shit. Then again it's probably a cultural thing. Imagine the backlash if it were a nation that we hated. Then again that type of shit is saved for other groups...and nations.
I think it’s only starting to dawn on people the president’s a raping nonce, and the media aren’t reporting what people really think, the silent majority. They’ll soon realize he’s only attacking Iran to take the heat off the Epstein files. Politically domestically he’s fecked and so is his family like that toad Kushner, who’s obviously a Mossad agent anyway. Christ, I can’t believe I’m writing this.
 
Mr. Black paid about $20 million to a dozen women, at least some of whom he’d had sexual relationships with, according to the recently released files and notes taken by congressional investigators and shared with The Times. Mr. Epstein was involved in figuring out ways to dispense a significant portion of that money.

 
After Action Memo of the night Epstein 'suicided' himself. Forgot all this happened under Trump...

 
The more you read into this, the murkier and murkier it gets.

Not sure how widely publicised this is, but another character heavily associated with Epstein was Jean-Luc Brunel. Brunel was also a sex trafficker, and had a constant stream of girls he would supply to Epstein. Like Epstein, he also hung himself in prison when the truth was getting uncovered in 2022.

The first to allege that Brunel was involved in Epstein's trafficking was Virginia Roberts Giuffre, who alleged in a 2014 court filing that Brunel would offer "modeling jobs" to girls as a cover for sex trafficking to Epstein.[6] Giuffre alleged that she was sexually trafficked to Brunel while she was underage in the early 2000s.[36] Giuffre claimed in a 2015 affidavit that Epstein bragged to her that he had "slept with over 1,000 of Brunel's girls".[7] She also named Brunel as one of the men Maxwell had directed her as a teenager to have sex with.[37] Brunel denied involvement in any illegal activities with Epstein: "I strongly deny having committed any illicit act or any wrongdoing in the course of my work as a scouter or model agencies manager."[38]
Brunel's legal representation back then was Joe Titone. Titone is the father of Jackie Sandler, Adam Sandler's wife.

 
Trump is such a liar, he told howard stern his limit was 14 and now we learn this? Despicable.
 
This is a long but humorous exchange between Dan "Protector" Bongino and Thomas Massie. Every reply practically is calling Bongino a pedophile protector. How can it be every comment :lol:.