Gaming 1836 - The Europa Universalis 4 Experiment (Hands-off) - Map & stats in second post - Final Map and Stats update - Timelapse video

Andycoleno9

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VeevaVee said:
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Not sure what to make of it really. Can I rule again? Just wanna rule and obliterate @Andycoleno9
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You rule but with different name. New dynasty has come.
But don't bother with it. Soon, i will give you something to worry about. :wenger:

Edit: feck, i take it back. P Nut you bastard
 

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I think @Dan might be the next to go. Incredibly @Crackers appears set not to even make the top 3 of fastest killed, despite the promising start.



I'm going to let that one play out, and then do an update hopefully before any big wars kick off.
 
1502 - Map and stats

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Europe 1472

Europe in 1502 (Click for a bigger one - you can also open/download all the maps so far (1444, 1472, 1502) and easily compare)



adexkola is the Holy Roman Emperor



All of the following stats are Cafites-only.

Development (total value of provinces)
  1. Hobbers: 423
  2. Wing Attack Plan R: 405
  3. AnotherLondonManc: 354
  4. RedSky: 341
  5. Walrus: 338
  6. Shakesey: 335
  7. Solius: 332
  8. Eboue: 304
  9. Tiber: 303
  10. adexkola: 296
Prestige (sort of a "current status" value, goes from -100 to 100)
  1. AnotherLondonManc: 99
  2. Wing Attack Plan R: 51
  3. Salt Bailly: 48
  4. adexkola: 47
  5. PSV: 41
  6. BD: 41
  7. hobbers: 40
  8. RedSky: 38
  9. Solius: 36
  10. V.O.: 32
Power Projection (how much you've bullied (war, insults, embargo, etc) rivals. Up to 3 nations you've picked that are roughly evenly matched with you - goes from 0 to 100)
  1. Shakesey: 63
  2. Hobbers: 62
  3. Organic Potatoes: 59
  4. Andocoleno9: 52
  5. AnotherLondonManc: 49
  6. Solius: 40
  7. Salt Bailly: 38
  8. RedSky: 36
  9. Igor Drefljak: 33
  10. Abizzz: 33
Total Army size (might be misleading if you are or have just been at war)
  1. Solius: 55 000
  2. Wing Attack Plan R: 47 000
  3. Adexkola: 44 431
  4. AnotherLondonManc: 38 000
  5. Abizzz: 37 914
  6. Eboue: 37 000
  7. hobbers: 35 000
  8. BD: 32 000
  9. V.O.: 31 101
  10. Organic Potatoes: 30 984
Total Navy Size (Four ship types, but this is usually a decent measure)
  1. AnotherLondonManc: 52
  2. Igor Drefljak: 43
  3. BD: 40
  4. Organic Potaties: 34
  5. VeevaVee: 33
  6. hobbers: 33
  7. Wing Attack Plan R: 30
  8. altodevil: 30
  9. Welsh Wonder: 29
  10. KirkDuyt: 28
Total monthly income
  1. Solius: 91
  2. AnotherLondonManc: 66
  3. BD: 51
  4. hobbers: 46
  5. Organic Potatoes: 44
  6. Igor Drefljak: 44
  7. Welsh Wonder: 43
  8. V.O.: 42
  9. Wing Attack Plan R: 39
  10. KirkDuyt: 39
Ideas (these are basically upgrades you can take that come in Administrative, Diplomatic and Military, using the currency generated (generally) by the skills of your ruler. I'll go into a bit more detail about these when I do country-by-country updates a bit later today, but they're one way of measuring how well you're doing that doesn't necessarily relate directly to your number of provinces or the size of your armies. If you're conquering a lot you'll probably use a lot of Administrative power on making the new provinces cores, so maybe won't have as much to spend on new ideas)
  1. Organic Potatoes: 14
  2. Vidyoyo: 14
  3. altodevil: 14
  4. SilentWitness: 13
  5. KirkDuyt: 13
  6. Abizzz: 13
  7. VeevaVee: 12
  8. Crackers: 12
  9. BD: 12
  10. Andycoleno9: 11
  11. AnotherLondonManc: 11
  12. Eboue: 11
  13. P-Nut: 11
  14. Welsh Wonder: 11
  15. Solius: 11
Most developed province (this is still just the Cafites)
  1. Paris (Eboue): 33
  2. Roma (VeevaVee): 33
  3. Henegouwn (SilentWitness): 33
  4. Qahirah (Wing Attack Plan R: 31
  5. Ayrshire (Organic Potatoes): 31
  6. Auvergne (RedSky): 29
  7. Firenze (AnotherLondonManc): 28
  8. Aachen (adexkola): 27
  9. Moskva (Salt Bailly): 27
  10. Krakow (PSV): 27
  11. Metz (SilentWitness): 27
  12. Venezia (P-Nut): 27
  13. Genova (AnotherLondonManc): 27
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Like I said I didn't save for the last update, but next time I'll put in how much you've gone up or down (in value, not position) in the various stats.
 

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nimic said:
I think @Dan might be the next to go. Incredibly @Crackers appears set not to even make the top 3 of fastest killed, despite the promising start.



I'm going to let that one play out, and then do an update hopefully before any big wars kick off.
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AnotherLondonManc

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Whoa, my prestige is through the roof! How did that happen?

No idea what it means but big number make Geronimo happy
 

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It might be worth including the individual mil/dip/admin tech on the yearly reviews too, or at least the mil tech with the army size update.

As you know, only a level or two in mil diff can totally swing the balance in a battle. 100k vs 50k doesn't mean much if your using pitch forks vs rifles. :)

IMO the best metrics for player strength from the stats above are 1) development, 2) ideas 3) army size
 

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Phil Jones Face said:
It might be worth including the individual mil/dip/admin tech on the yearly reviews too, or at least the mil tech with the army size update.

As you know, only a level or two in mil diff can totally swing the balance in a battle. 100k vs 50k doesn't mean much if your using pitch forks vs rifles. :)

IMO the best metrics for player strength from the stats above are 1) development, 2) ideas 3) army size
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Yeah not a bad shout. It will be in the country update though.
 

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nimic said:
Europe 1472

Europe in 1502 (Click for a bigger one - you can also open/download all the maps so far (1444, 1472, 1502) and easily compare)



adexkola is the Holy Roman Emperor



All of the following stats are Cafites-only.

Development (total value of provinces)
  1. Hobbers: 423
  2. Wing Attack Plan R: 405
  3. AnotherLondonManc: 354
  4. RedSky: 341
  5. Walrus: 338
  6. Shakesey: 335
  7. Solius: 332
  8. Eboue: 304
  9. Tiber: 303
  10. adexkola: 296
Prestige (sort of a "current status" value, goes from -100 to 100)
  1. AnotherLondonManc: 99
  2. Wing Attack Plan R: 51
  3. Salt Bailly: 48
  4. adexkola: 47
  5. PSV: 41
  6. BD: 41
  7. hobbers: 40
  8. RedSky: 38
  9. Solius: 36
  10. V.O.: 32
Power Projection (how much you've bullied (war, insults, embargo, etc) rivals. Up to 3 nations you've picked that are roughly evenly matched with you - goes from 0 to 100)
  1. Shakesey: 63
  2. Hobbers: 62
  3. Organic Potatoes: 59
  4. Andocoleno9: 52
  5. AnotherLondonManc: 49
  6. Solius: 40
  7. Salt Bailly: 38
  8. RedSky: 36
  9. Igor Drefljak: 33
  10. Abizzz: 33
Total Army size (might be misleading if you are or have just been at war)
  1. Solius: 55 000
  2. Wing Attack Plan R: 47 000
  3. Adexkola: 44 431
  4. AnotherLondonManc: 38 000
  5. Abizzz: 37 914
  6. Eboue: 37 000
  7. hobbers: 35 000
  8. BD: 32 000
  9. V.O.: 31 101
  10. Organic Potatoes: 30 984
Total Navy Size (Four ship types, but this is usually a decent measure)
  1. AnotherLondonManc: 52
  2. Igor Drefljak: 43
  3. BD: 40
  4. Organic Potaties: 34
  5. VeevaVee: 33
  6. hobbers: 33
  7. Wing Attack Plan R: 30
  8. altodevil: 30
  9. Welsh Wonder: 29
  10. KirkDuyt: 28
Total monthly income
  1. Solius: 91
  2. AnotherLondonManc: 66
  3. BD: 51
  4. hobbers: 46
  5. Organic Potatoes: 44
  6. Igor Drefljak: 44
  7. Welsh Wonder: 43
  8. V.O.: 42
  9. Wing Attack Plan R: 39
  10. KirkDuyt: 39
Ideas (these are basically upgrades you can take that come in Administrative, Diplomatic and Military, using the currency generated (generally) by the skills of your ruler. I'll go into a bit more detail about these when I do country-by-country updates a bit later today, but they're one way of measuring how well you're doing that doesn't necessarily relate directly to your number of provinces or the size of your armies. If you're conquering a lot you'll probably use a lot of Administrative power on making the new provinces cores, so maybe won't have as much to spend on new ideas)
  1. Organic Potatoes: 14
  2. Vidyoyo: 14
  3. altodevil: 14
  4. SilentWitness: 13
  5. KirkDuyt: 13
  6. Abizzz: 13
  7. VeevaVee: 12
  8. Crackers: 12
  9. BD: 12
  10. Andycoleno9: 11
  11. AnotherLondonManc: 11
  12. Eboue: 11
  13. P-Nut: 11
  14. Welsh Wonder: 11
  15. Solius: 11
Most developed province (this is still just the Cafites)
  1. Paris (Eboue): 33
  2. Roma (VeevaVee): 33
  3. Henegouwn (SilentWitness): 33
  4. Qahirah (Wing Attack Plan R: 31
  5. Ayrshire (Organic Potatoes): 31
  6. Auvergne (RedSky): 29
  7. Firenze (AnotherLondonManc): 28
  8. Aachen (adexkola): 27
  9. Moskva (Salt Bailly): 27
  10. Krakow (PSV): 27
  11. Metz (SilentWitness): 27
  12. Venezia (P-Nut): 27
  13. Genova (AnotherLondonManc): 27
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I’ll take most developed although not great if it doesn’t translate to money or obliterating.

Have I taken a bit of land to the east there?
 

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nimic said:
Europe 1472

Europe in 1502 (Click for a bigger one - you can also open/download all the maps so far (1444, 1472, 1502) and easily compare)



adexkola is the Holy Roman Emperor



All of the following stats are Cafites-only.

Development (total value of provinces)
  1. Hobbers: 423
  2. Wing Attack Plan R: 405
  3. AnotherLondonManc: 354
  4. RedSky: 341
  5. Walrus: 338
  6. Shakesey: 335
  7. Solius: 332
  8. Eboue: 304
  9. Tiber: 303
  10. adexkola: 296
Prestige (sort of a "current status" value, goes from -100 to 100)
  1. AnotherLondonManc: 99
  2. Wing Attack Plan R: 51
  3. Salt Bailly: 48
  4. adexkola: 47
  5. PSV: 41
  6. BD: 41
  7. hobbers: 40
  8. RedSky: 38
  9. Solius: 36
  10. V.O.: 32
Power Projection (how much you've bullied (war, insults, embargo, etc) rivals. Up to 3 nations you've picked that are roughly evenly matched with you - goes from 0 to 100)
  1. Shakesey: 63
  2. Hobbers: 62
  3. Organic Potatoes: 59
  4. Andocoleno9: 52
  5. AnotherLondonManc: 49
  6. Solius: 40
  7. Salt Bailly: 38
  8. RedSky: 36
  9. Igor Drefljak: 33
  10. Abizzz: 33
Total Army size (might be misleading if you are or have just been at war)
  1. Solius: 55 000
  2. Wing Attack Plan R: 47 000
  3. Adexkola: 44 431
  4. AnotherLondonManc: 38 000
  5. Abizzz: 37 914
  6. Eboue: 37 000
  7. hobbers: 35 000
  8. BD: 32 000
  9. V.O.: 31 101
  10. Organic Potatoes: 30 984
Total Navy Size (Four ship types, but this is usually a decent measure)
  1. AnotherLondonManc: 52
  2. Igor Drefljak: 43
  3. BD: 40
  4. Organic Potaties: 34
  5. VeevaVee: 33
  6. hobbers: 33
  7. Wing Attack Plan R: 30
  8. altodevil: 30
  9. Welsh Wonder: 29
  10. KirkDuyt: 28
Total monthly income
  1. Solius: 91
  2. AnotherLondonManc: 66
  3. BD: 51
  4. hobbers: 46
  5. Organic Potatoes: 44
  6. Igor Drefljak: 44
  7. Welsh Wonder: 43
  8. V.O.: 42
  9. Wing Attack Plan R: 39
  10. KirkDuyt: 39
Ideas (these are basically upgrades you can take that come in Administrative, Diplomatic and Military, using the currency generated (generally) by the skills of your ruler. I'll go into a bit more detail about these when I do country-by-country updates a bit later today, but they're one way of measuring how well you're doing that doesn't necessarily relate directly to your number of provinces or the size of your armies. If you're conquering a lot you'll probably use a lot of Administrative power on making the new provinces cores, so maybe won't have as much to spend on new ideas)
  1. Organic Potatoes: 14
  2. Vidyoyo: 14
  3. altodevil: 14
  4. SilentWitness: 13
  5. KirkDuyt: 13
  6. Abizzz: 13
  7. VeevaVee: 12
  8. Crackers: 12
  9. BD: 12
  10. Andycoleno9: 11
  11. AnotherLondonManc: 11
  12. Eboue: 11
  13. P-Nut: 11
  14. Welsh Wonder: 11
  15. Solius: 11
Most developed province (this is still just the Cafites)
  1. Paris (Eboue): 33
  2. Roma (VeevaVee): 33
  3. Henegouwn (SilentWitness): 33
  4. Qahirah (Wing Attack Plan R: 31
  5. Ayrshire (Organic Potatoes): 31
  6. Auvergne (RedSky): 29
  7. Firenze (AnotherLondonManc): 28
  8. Aachen (adexkola): 27
  9. Moskva (Salt Bailly): 27
  10. Krakow (PSV): 27
  11. Metz (SilentWitness): 27
  12. Venezia (P-Nut): 27
  13. Genova (AnotherLondonManc): 27
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The Egyptian starting position is nice
 

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Jeez, going from such a good start to not even appearing on most of those top 10/15 lists now. Sad times for von Walrus.
 

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Someone needs to ally with me to take down those dirty Swiss.
 

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Okay I'm going to start giving a very brief status update for all the countries. I'm trying to use the diplomacy map mode. I'll just use hobbers here first to explain what's going on here. This feels extremely try-hard, but I'm committed. As always, click to expand the image.

- Circled in red are the idea groups they've picked, the number being how many ideas in that group they have finished (7 being the max). Below you can see how many of his national ideas he has unlocked, which is directly based on how many ideas he's finished.
- Circled in yellow you can see his Administrative, Diplomatic and Military tech level. More higherer is gooder.
- Circled in Green you have the stability (from -3 to +3) and prestige (-100 to 100)
- I don't know why I bothered numbering the boxes when I have the power of words, but there you go. Purple means a royal marriage, blue means an alliance, the yellow-striped are provinces he has claimed and can thus use as justification to start a war (if they were green-striped that would mean they were his own core provinces that he had lost. Some of you will se a few of those, and that's your cue to get angry. The colour on Tiber means he's in a personal union under hobbers (same ruler, same diplomacy)
- If you see a darker green, that means they're in a war on the same side as you. You may or may not be allies.

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And then I'll just add a short description of how it's going for you. For @hobbers this is very easy: he's a fecking monster who you should all be very afraid of.
 

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Shakesey said:
Give Islam a spin! No pressure, just an open invitation. Always remember that the conversion deal comes with a lifetime supply of spiritual guidance, brotherly love, and if you're lucky, some heavenly baklava
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Don't forget excommunication and bulls issued permitting conquest and plunder and ravishing blessed by yours truly

Edit: @SilentWitness if your kingdom is Protestant already ignore what I've said, you're already excommunicated.
 
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