Totally forgot about AFCON. but yeah, I don’t expect to see him play for the first team for a while.FIFA Arab Cup? And then the AFCON? At least he'll get regular first team games...
Totally forgot about AFCON. but yeah, I don’t expect to see him play for the first team for a while.FIFA Arab Cup? And then the AFCON? At least he'll get regular first team games...
When youre teaching new ideas at a club its probably easier to work with a blank slate. LvG promoted a lot of kids for the same reason. Hopefully Rangnick does better obviously, he certainly feels more relevant.Did not know Ragnick has a reputation of giving youngsters chances.
Horrible example.When youre teaching new ideas at a club its probably easier to work with a blank slate. LvG promoted a lot of kids for the same reason. Hopefully Rangnick does better obviously, he certainly feels more relevant.
I think youve missed the point i was making: that its easier to coach a philosophy to someone without pre-existing programming. The quality of the players wasnt really relevant to the point.Horrible example.
Let's take a look at youngsters that LvG gave first-team chances to:
Jesse Lingard, Tyler Blackett, Andreas Pereira, Paddy McNair, Tom Thorpe, Cameron Borthwick-Jackson, Donald Love, Joe Riley, Marcus Rashford, Timothy Fosu-Mensah, James Weir.
Other than Jesse-Rashy duo, all of them ended up being flops. Anybody can play random guys from youth team once or twice as part of 1st team. That is not a meaningful promotion.
I agree with your point wholeheartedly.I think youve missed the point i was making: that its easier to coach a philosophy to someone without pre-existing programming. The quality of the players wasnt really relevant to the point.
Most of those players sucked as well to be fair.I agree with your point wholeheartedly.
Just saying that specific example was counter-productive since LvG didn't coach anything into most of them and didn't turn them into anything worthwhile. He was just giving them some first team play time out of populist intentions. LvG sucked, is all I am saying and there are better examples to your fair point
The problem at the time was that our young talents weren't good enough with the exception of a few.Most of those players sucked as well to be fair.
I hope so. I don’t see what else he will gain from no involvement in mens football.He will no doubt have a place on the bench in the next couple of games (assuming they won't be postponed) before heading off to the AFCON. Ralf's comments are very positive and it's no surprise that he recognises his talents. We all know he's wasted in the 23s and now that we have a proper head coach the magic can unfold.
Agreed, the only other player even on that list that had some expectations was Pereria who we realized eventually was a bit of a jack of all trades that wasn’t good enough at a single spot for the highest levels.The problem at the time was that our young talents weren't good enough with the exception of a few.
You need something to mould but sadly the talent wasn't there to mould. I think we've come a long way since and i'm quite optimistic about a number of youngsters now.
https://www.manutd.com/en/news/deta...o-hannibal-in-the-first-team-24-december-2021What were the comments from Ralf that have been mentioned?
Start? I shouldn't think so for one minute, he's got any number of players ahead of him in the pecking order, we need a win, and he's had what like 2 or 3 training sessions to impress?Tweet
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He'll be in the team for Boro then. And I expect he'll even start. With Donny off to Everton, he will surely get chances. We need something to be excited about and for me, he is that player.
I don't think we're going full strength. I think Rangnick will use this as an opportunity to get some players up to speed for the run in. And I think it will be sensible to do so. That being said, the squad will be a lot thinner, so it's not like wholesale changes. But I'd expect AWB and Shaw as full backs and even Jones to start (assuming he won't leave out on loan), and I expect Heaton in goal (if Henderson goes on loan).Start? I shouldn't think so for one minute, he's got any number of players ahead of him in the pecking order, we need a win, and he's had what like 2 or 3 training sessions to impress?
He has played quite well on the left for the U-23s, played occasionally on the right for his NT but he's more suited to playing centrally.Can he play on either of the wings ?
I mean let's look at the current season in terms of personnel available (with Lingard most likely going).Please can we not force him to be what we want/ need as we will limit him, he's an #8, he can do a job on the wings, 6 or 10 as he is fairly versatile but he is a box to box player, hard working and has a bit of creativity, he needs to play where he is supposed to play, for me we have:
#10: Bruno, Donny
#8: Fred, Mctominay, Hannibal
#6: Matic, Garner
We often play Fred or Mctominay in the role of 2 #6 as we don't have a solid #6 to allow them to play as #8 but Hannibal needs to play with a proper #6.
Disclaimer: Just because Fred & Hannibal (As an example) both play, it doesn't mean they are similar players necessarily, they can play the role very differently.
I do understand that I just think we won't see the best of him in that role, I also think we will see Pogba as an #8 too, not a #10, I think we will play with two #8sI mean let's look at the current season in terms of personnel available (with Lingard most likely going).
LW: Rashford, Elanga
ST: Cavani, Ronaldo
RW: Sancho
10: Bruno, Pogba
8: Fred, Mctominay
6: Matic
Hannibal will very much need to play where he's needed. I don't think we have the liberty to only stick him as a #8.
Honestly I think the Fergie approach of putting young midfielders on the wings might actually be applicable in this case. Our full backs are our wingers nowadays anywayCan he play on either of the wings ?
I believe he is an outstanding footballer, and he could probably do a decent job in any of the midfield, wide positions, including DM, although I don't think Rangnick would play him there for one minute. Hannibal, I think, has the ability to adapt to wherever he is playing, but he's a very creative player, so a more forward position would suit him better at the moment.I mean let's look at the current season in terms of personnel available (with Lingard most likely going).
LW: Rashford, Elanga
ST: Cavani, Ronaldo
RW: Sancho
10: Bruno, Pogba
8: Fred, Mctominay
6: Matic
Hannibal will very much need to play where he's needed. I don't think we have the liberty to only stick him as a #8.
Agreed about it all. Especially the excited part. Remember the Leeds/Newcastle games with Varane and Ronaldo and how we all felt? Seems years ago.Tweet
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He'll be in the team for Boro then. And I expect he'll even start. With Donny off to Everton, he will surely get chances. We need something to be excited about and for me, he is that player.
Modric at the same age was on loan to a team in Bosnia for a year, before spending another season on loan in Croatia. He was about 20 years old before he returned to his parent club Dinamo Zagreb.If he’s got a play style similar to Modric like people say then put him in the middle and see what happens. Modric has the build of a 13 year old girl and shrugs off the physicality when he plays central.
Although to be fair, CBJ, TFM, Blackett and Riley looked good whenever they played under LVG.Horrible example.
Let's take a look at youngsters that LvG gave first-team chances to:
Jesse Lingard, Tyler Blackett, Andreas Pereira, Paddy McNair, Tom Thorpe, Cameron Borthwick-Jackson, Donald Love, Joe Riley, Marcus Rashford, Timothy Fosu-Mensah, James Weir.
Other than Jesse-Rashy duo, all of them ended up being flops. Anybody can play random guys from youth team once or twice as part of 1st team. That is not a meaningful promotion.