The Great United Fire Sale (nth edition)

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Once again the Journalists have been briefed of a big summer clear out - "Everyone is for sale". INEOS did a pretty decent job of raising cash from sales last summer and are supposed to do better this time around. Like last summer, will try to keep track of all the outgoings and the money raised in this thread.

2025/26 summer outgoings:

Released/End of Contract:

  1. Christian Eriksen - End of Contract - £150k per week
  2. Victor Lindelof - End of Contract - £130k per week
  3. Jonny Evans - End of Contract - £50k per week
Loans:
  1. Rashford - Loan to Barcelona - Loan fee??? - £325k per week freed in wages
  2. Sancho - Loan to Villa - Loan fee?? ~ £200k saved in wages.
  3. Onana - Loan to Trabzonpor - No loan fee - 120k saved in wages.
  4. Hojlund - Loan with conditional obligation to buy to Napoli - £5.19m + £38.06m (If Napoli qualify for the CL) - £85k freed in wages
Sales:
  1. Garnacho - Chelsea - £40m + 10% sell-on clause.
  2. Antony - Betis - £19.06m + £2.6m + 50% sell-on clause
Windfalls:

1. Sancho back from Chelsea - £5m
2. Elanga sell-on - £6m + £.75m add-on.
3. Alvaro sell-on - £7.6m
4. Maxi Oyedele - £2.1m

Total Fees generated so far: ~£84.95m + 3.35 add-ons.
Approximate savings in wages: ~£1.1m/wk
 
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Might be helpful to keep track of the estimated wage savings as well
 
Wages saved:

Eriksen: £150k per week
Lindelof: £130k per week
Evans: £50k per week

Net: £340k per week
 
Big Ben Foster said:
Might be helpful to keep track of the estimated wage savings as well
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Will do that too.

However, you can never get a close enough number for those as they are highly incentivized and there are those Europe/no Europe etc vagaries which cannot be ascertained.
 
DoF and CEO should be judged when window is closed so this is just observation about their work so far.
We have 4 players which we must sell (Rashford, Sancho, Garnacho and Antony) and couple of players which we need to sell (Hojlund, Malacia).

What is the problem/excuse this year? I understand that with Rashford and Sancho contract is a problem but what about others? Hojlund, Antony and Garnacho should be easy to sell. But more we wait, potential buyers will buy someone else.
 
Andycoleno9 said:
DoF and CEO should be judged when window is closed so this is just observation about their work so far.
We have 4 players which we must sell (Rashford, Sancho, Garnacho and Antony) and couple of players which we need to sell (Hojlund, Malacia).

What is the problem/excuse this year? I understand that with Rashford and Sancho contract is a problem but what about others? Hojlund, Antony and Garnacho should be easy to sell. But more we wait, potential buyers will buy someone else.
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Why would anyone be in a rush to sign any of that lot? Even if they did want them, the best thing to do is wait until the last minute when we're desperate to offload.
 
Leftback99 said:
Why would anyone be in a rush to sign any of that lot? Even if they did want them, the best thing to do is wait until the last minute when we're desperate to offload.
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What? What does that mean "our lot"? All these players are good players. I hate this narrative like we are selling some utter dross.
Garnacho is highly rated young player, Rashford was a PL "star" player one year ago, Antony had excellent season in Spain, Hojlund is still rated because of his age.
 
Andycoleno9 said:
What? What does that mean "our lot"? All these players are good players. I hate this narrative like we are selling some utter dross.
Garnacho is highly rated young player, Rashford was a PL "star" player one year ago, Antony had excellent season in Spain, Hojlund is still rated because of his age.
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They are dross, which is why we're desperate to get rid
 
Andycoleno9 said:
DoF and CEO should be judged when window is closed so this is just observation about their work so far.
We have 4 players which we must sell (Rashford, Sancho, Garnacho and Antony) and couple of players which we need to sell (Hojlund, Malacia).

What is the problem/excuse this year? I understand that with Rashford and Sancho contract is a problem but what about others? Hojlund, Antony and Garnacho should be easy to sell. But more we wait, potential buyers will buy someone else.
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Hojlund is certainly not easy to sell.

To breakeven on his current book value we'd need to get £40+m for him. We'd be lucky to get 25.
 
Andycoleno9 said:
What? What does that mean "our lot"? All these players are good players. I hate this narrative like we are selling some utter dross.
Garnacho is highly rated young player, Rashford was a PL "star" player one year ago, Antony had excellent season in Spain, Hojlund is still rated because of his age.
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Everyone knows they are available so why aren't they queuing up if they are so good? The only one who should be an easy sale is Garnacho, he'll go but no one should be rushing.

Which clubs do you think should be buying them if you were them?
 
Dominos said:
Hojlund is certainly not easy to sell.

To breakeven on his current book value we'd need to get £40+m for him. We'd be lucky to get 25.
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I am not expecting to get money back. If we were stupid to pay 70 mil, other clubs don't need to be. But we will never get our money back. So, sell him for best value which you can get.
 
Dominos said:
Hojlund is certainly not easy to sell.

To breakeven on his current book value we'd need to get £40+m for him. We'd be lucky to get 25.
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All he needs is a half decent season as a sub in a more successful team and his value will jump again. Especially if he does well in the World Cup. Selling him outright now is poor business. A loan might be decent though if we don't see a future w bim
 
Insanity said:
Once again the Journalists have been briefed of a big summer clear out - "Everyone is for sale". INEOS did a pretty decent job of raising cash from sales last summer and are supposed to do better this time around. Like last summer, will try to keep track of all the outgoings and the money raised in this thread.

2025/26 summer outgoings:

Released/End of Contract:

  1. Christian Eriksen - End of Contract - £150k per week
  2. Victor Lindelof - End of Contract - £130k per week
  3. Jonny Evans - End of Contract - £50k per week
Loans:


Sales:

1.

Windfalls:

1.

Total Fees generated so far: ~£m + add-ons.
Approximate savings in wages: ~£m + add-ons.
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Have we not has some funds from sell on clauses? Alvaro, McT?
 
Dominos said:
Hojlund is certainly not easy to sell.

To breakeven on his current book value we'd need to get £40+m for him. We'd be lucky to get 25.
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Break even on contract value is sort of an arbitrary point though. More meaningful to compare with the PSR cost of not selling him. Which is 18m (for this year). Meaning if he goes for 23m or more, it has a positive PSR impact on this year. But of course, he has to be replaced, which will cost us. But that's just as true if he goes for 40m.
 
justsomebloke said:
Break even on contract value is sort of an arbitrary point though. More meaningful to compare with the PSR cost of not selling him. Which is 18m (for this year). Meaning if he goes for 23m or more, it has a positive PSR impact on this year. But of course, he has to be replaced, which will cost us. But that's just as true if he goes for 40m.
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I guess the question would be, if we sent him on loan for a season and he does well, could we sell him for more next summer, than we could sell him for this summer.
 
Dominos said:
I guess the question would be, if we sent him on loan for a season and he does well, could we sell him for more next summer, than we could sell him for this summer.
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Seems reasonable to me. His stock certainly seems more likely to rise than to fall. It would financiallt complicate replacing him, but I suppose we could loan too.
 
Pre-season starts in 10 days and we managed to sell.......zero players. Not a good start so far.
 
Andycoleno9 said:
Pre-season starts in 10 days and we managed to sell.......zero players. Not a good start so far.
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After the two worst seasons in our PL history I would have thought a more aggressive clear out would happen but there’s still time.

Before anyone says “who would want these players” I still think there are clubs that would be interested in the likes of Shaw, Mount, Dalot (if he was for sale) Maguire, Onana, Bayindir, Holjund.

The majority of players that are guaranteed to leave actually didn’t play a big part in our catastrophic season last year- Antony, Sancho, Rashford, which leaves only Garnacho who did play a lot of games.
 
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Have we not has some funds from sell on clauses? Alvaro, McT?
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Nothing yet but potential for some return from the following this window as they are all linked with moves;

Alvaro Carreras
Anthony Elanga
Charlie Savage
Maxi Oyedele

Carreras and Elanga are the big deals with both estimated to bring in between 7M and 8M depending on the final fee, obviously this is all pure profit so great for accounting purposes and will ease some of the cashflow concerns inhibiting us from pursuing deals beyond Cunha and Mbuemo. Crossing my fingers one or both go through soon although the Carreras deal appears to have been parked for the duration of the Club World Cup.

Savage and Oyedele are interesting test cases, both were allowed to leave for effectively nothing but we retain sell on percentages of 50% for Savage and seemingly 40% for Oyedele. Oyedele looks like having his 6M release clause met with clubs like Werder Bremen circling which would net 2.4M for us and Savage is linked to Birmingham and Wrexham so far with a fee around 2.5M discussed which would be another 1.25 million. Taking this route rather than endless loans seems to have incentivized their new clubs to develop them and now we are potentially going to get some return on investment whereas too often in the past we held on too long and ended up releasing players for free in their early twenties with their development totally stalled. Mengi is another in this group but he is recovering from a bad knee injury so won't move in this window.

I am sure there are a couple of others I am overlooking but all told this lot could net a total of around 20M which would be a much needed boost.
 
We are clearly struggling to sell at the minute. Almost a month in of the window, and no real solid sign that a significant influx of cash is coming from anywhere.

Bloody hope we have a productive first week of July.
Wouldn’t surprise me if we suddenly see sales £5-10million cheaper than what we’d have hoped for.

Desperate measures call for even more desperate measures.
 
Should have sold bruno and not bottlenecked ourselves because where is the cash now
 
It's almost like there isn't a big market for the fifteenth best teams players, oh, and their wages also make them second highest in the country.
 
ayushreddevil9 said:
Should have sold bruno and not bottlenecked ourselves because where is the cash now
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Could have kick-started our window and would have given us the freedom to improve our squad without the pressure of having to sell the turds first; who are all most likely to leave on loan. Garnacho is the only one now who can fetch us some good money. However, clubs will now try to low-ball us for him too as they know we are in desperate need of cash.
 
Is FFP really such a big deal given that City have basically broken every rule there is and still are fine and dandy and signing players left right and center.
 
Year end today for lots of clubs so new PSR window starts on 1st July - activity will increase in earnest for all clubs.

So far we’ve managed to get about £350k a week off of our books with the contract endings of Erikson, Lindelof and Evans. Also a 25% first team salary reduction for not qualifying for CL.

We’ve added Cunha on apparently £150k a week and a £20.5m a year transfer instalment. Mbeumo is likely to be similar.

We are returning the full salaries of Rashford, Sancho, Anthony and Malacia back into the mix from tomorrow.

Apparently we had a £141m PSR headroom for this last year so we should be able to do some more business without needing to sell first….however we will need to sell and we really need some of those big earners off the books.

Loan deals will not help. Selling Garnacho is the biggest win.
 
Can't stress how important it is that we permanently get rid of Rashford, Sancho, Antony and Garna. Not just for monetary reasons but also the "culture" within the squad.

Really hope INEOS has something up their sleeves cuz so far it's been nada.
 
We sold the Balon d’Or for a world record fee and handed Michael c**ting Owen his shirt on a free transfer. The cancerous dry rot that has been the Glazers ownership has been in full swing for over 15 years. It’s going to take a long time to unpick their mismanagement. We can start making the correct decisions, but the grander sweep of culture and our reputation will take longer to repair.

And whilst it is galling watching City and Liverpool flog dreck for big fees (£35m for Quansah?!), that’s a dividend for being good. We used to do the same when we were on top. People want to buy a piece of success, not something soiled out of a bin fire.

It’s not just us; Arsenal have only recently got good after years of being a joke and I’m pretty sure Oxlade-Chamberlain for £35m is still their record sale. What they did, in biting the bullet and paying off the likes of Ozil, Aubameyang and Pepe, is what we should be looking at as an example… but with less Lego-haired irritants involved.
 
Xeque_279 said:
Can't stress how important it is that we permanently get rid of Rashford, Sancho, Antony and Garna. Not just for monetary reasons but also the "culture" within the squad.

Really hope INEOS has something up their sleeves cuz so far it's been nada.
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If no one is willing to pay their wages there isn't much you can do. Garnacho is a feck up on Amorims part, there was no need to make it so obvious there was no position for him in the squad. Reckon he'd have loads of people wanting to pay 60M for him if they didn't think we were desperate to sell him.
 
Reckon we will have to agree a termination with Sancho, but that isn’t a priority - we just need to make sure he isn’t registered in our squads, he is aware of that and if he doesn’t go anywhere then we try and terminate.

I do not believe that he has any intention of signing a contract anywhere else - he wants to be a free agent next summer. Therefore a subsidised loan or pay off is the only way to feck him off - there is going to be only one winner in this parting and it ain’t us.

Anthony, Rashford, Garnacho and Malacia - as long as we can get a ‘confirmed’ obligation to buy then that will have to do - that still counts in the PSR headroom - just do not want these Pay to return deals like Chelsea had with Sancho.

As of tomorrow all of these players amortised book values decrease significantly, like all players but also our outgoings for amortised transfers for the year kick in.

I would imagine there will be a lot of noise in the papers about teams current PSR conditions and availability of funds over the next few days.

Could even be some possible late dealings today with teams needing to ensure headroom for the last part of this PSR period.
 
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