If we had to play without them right now the line-up would be something like:
LammensIt's not that bad relative to our normal starting eleven. The only major problem is not having Amad as a wingback and having to play both Dalot/Dorgu instead of just one of them.
MDL - Maguire - Shaw
Dalot - Casemiro - Bruno - Dorgu
Mount - Cunha
Sesko
I suppose we could also move Shaw to LWB for a few games , and play Yoro or Martinez at LCB.
There shouldn't be any games on the release date, that's just common sense to be fair to all clubs. Sky obviously have influence on it but the Bournemouth match could have been tonight instead of Monday.
Looks like Mbeumo is going to be the new captain of Cameroon so it would be no surprise if they refuse to allow him to turn up a day late.
Amad was very good last season, this season he has scored 1 goal and has 2 assists. AFCON could open up a real opportunity for a younger player to stake their claim if the manager is bold enough.The 10 spot will be fine. We have too many of them anyway.
Mounts 2nd half against Wolves was better than anything Mbeumo has produced so far.
And assuming we don't have an injury crisis amongst the back 3 that's fine as well.
It's that right wing back slot that's tricky. There isn't anyone who can replace Amad.
As I mentioned in another thread, it will be interesting if the PL has actually opened themselves up to legal action here. Us and Bournemouth essentially be treated unequally to the rest of the league. Not sure if Bournemouth are losing any starters?Really surprised it hasn't all been sorted out yet. Would have thought we'd have been straight on the phone as soon as the player release date and our fixture being moved to the Monday was both known.
Is there any way we could have pushed back against being moved to the Monday too? If we'd have been on the ball we would have done, although it wouldn't necessarily have been made public. Mind you, public pressure might've helped. Bournemouth not losing anyone in the end although they could have lost Adli (not called up), both teams could have said something about not wanting to play on the Monday in case they lost players.
Good shout about the Friday! Not sure if possible due to contracts between the league and Sky as Sky would have paid for a game being shown this Monday when they bought the rights, but definitely something that could have been explored on paper. Maybe they'd get better ratings on a Friday and have been happy to move it?
Edit: There is no early Saturday game on TV this week. Could have gone then too, even better. They've binned off a lot of the games in that slot following a European week due to teams not liking it after travelling, and the likes of Klopp complaining about it in the past. That's why we have Arsenal v Wolves at 8pm instead, that would proably have been the 12:30 pm one in the past. Not a problem for United and Bournemouth and we could have played at lunchtime with neither being in Europe.
This is certainly a PR disaster for the Premier League if United get feckedAs I mentioned in another thread, it will be interesting if the PL has actually opened themselves up to legal action here. Us and Bournemouth essentially be treated unequally to the rest of the league. Not sure if Bournemouth are losing any starters?
Amad was very good last season, this season he has scored 1 goal and has 2 assists. AFCON could open up a real opportunity for a younger player to stake their claim if the manager is bold enough.
9 premier league clubs played in Europe this week. Sunderland are playing one of those teams in a derby match Newcastle.As I mentioned in another thread, it will be interesting if the PL has actually opened themselves up to legal action here. Us and Bournemouth essentially be treated unequally to the rest of the league. Not sure if Bournemouth are losing any starters?
Amad was never a wing back, unless we get away from this ideology of a player can only play in one position we are going nowhere.I don't think there's any youth player ready to jump in as a wingback at this level.
Lacey for instance is never a wingback.
9 premier league clubs played in Europe this week. Sunderland are playing one of those teams in a derby match Newcastle.
Amad was never a wing back, unless we get away from this ideology of a player can only play in one position we are going nowhere.
What’s that got to do with my point that by making us play Monday purely for TV, have they opened themselves up to legal action if our AFCON players aren’t available .9 premier league clubs played in Europe this week. Sunderland are playing one of those teams in a derby match Newcastle.
Amad was never a wing back, unless we get away from this ideology of a player can only play in one position we are going nowhere.
They will be available. Just a few hours delay for releasing them. Common sense it shouldn't be a problem especially they are going away up to a month.Surely if Amad Mbeumo and Maz weren't available for tomorrow we'd have confirmation of that by now?
I would imagine we found out a while back but haven’t released the news. There’s no chance we have spent the week preparing without knowing either way.Surely if Amad Mbeumo and Maz weren't available for tomorrow we'd have confirmation of that by now?
Yea this was my understanding too. The shitstorm that kicks up wouldn't be worth the hassle.They will be available. Just a few hours delay for releasing them. Common sense it shouldn't be a problem especially they are going away up to a month.
Semenyo plays for Ghana right?As I mentioned in another thread, it will be interesting if the PL has actually opened themselves up to legal action here. Us and Bournemouth essentially be treated unequally to the rest of the league. Not sure if Bournemouth are losing any starters?
It’s not.This is certainly a PR disaster for the Premier League if United get fecked
Obviously there won’t be legal action. Get a grip.What’s that got to do with my point that by making us play Monday purely for TV, have they opened themselves up to legal action if our AFCON players aren’t available .
Obviously there won’t be legal action. Get a grip.
Games are played on Monday nights. Man Utd and all clubs get paid handsomely.
Is it unfair? Yes. Is football unfair? Yes.
Why you being insulting and condescending?Obviously there won’t be legal action. Get a grip.
Games are played on Monday nights. Man Utd and all clubs get paid handsomely.
Is it unfair? Yes. Is football unfair? Yes.
See it’s not just me you’re being like this with.It’s not.
No one will particularly care and United had time to prepare.
Is it unfair? Yes. Are there lots of examples every season where there are circumstances that are unfair to clubs because of scheduling? Yes.
See it’s not just me you’re being like this with.
You say we’ve had loads of time to prepare, when RA was saying only a day or two ago he didn’t know if he could use the players. Doesn’t seem like ideal preparation to me.
I’ve been neither. Robust, yes.Why you being insulting and condescending?
Of course there are legal ramifications of scheduling for TV by PL that allows some teams to field AFCON players due to cut off and some not, when it could have been easily avoided.
Maybe try not to give it the big I am in future and have a civil conversation too.
That’s what I was hoping for (the last paragraph). While I think Maz has had a good season, as a RCH, his loss is probably easier to cover.. Amad and Mbuemo bigger losses for me.Is pretty ridiculous that we don't know for sure if they are available tonight - talk of legal action is obviously daft though
Obviously Amorim knows by now though, and I assume the club are purposely keeping it quiet to keep Bournemouth guessing
Mbeumo & Amad should be available - Mazraoui might have gone since Morocco kick off the tournament
Did I suggest it as a course of action? I said it is possible that the PL have opened themselves up to it. Of course it’s their responsibility to ensure that it’s a level playing field where things within their control are concerned.I’ve been neither. Robust, yes.
No, there are not any legal ramifications. It’s a sad state of affairs if you think that’s a way forward.
Monday Night Football, and this particular time slot is not unusual. It’s not the PL responsibility to look at availability of players for games.
Yes, it’s unfortunate on us if those players don’t play. But it’s not the PL’s responsibility to look at who may or may not be available, and to predict what players nations might call up.
You stated this game opens the league up to legal action. That’s an absurd take. Take that any way you want it.Did I suggest it as a course of action? I said it is possible that the PL have opened themselves up to it. Of course it’s their responsibility to ensure that it’s a level playing field where things within their control are concerned.
Just checking as with your ‘robust’ way of speaking you seem to make out you’re an expert in legal matters.
Its not an absurd take if many of us are thinking the same way.You stated this game opens the league up to legal action. That’s an absurd take. Take that any way you want it.
A few people on The Caf. Ok.Its not an absurd take if many of us are thinking the same way.
It’s the PL responsibility to repeatedly pick the same team every Monday. Please don’t tell me Leeds or other teams couldn’t have filled in ? Are United being taken advantage of and penalised for being the big draw card while brentfetc get an equal reward from the tv money? A far cry from La liga and other lI’ve been neither. Robust, yes.
No, there are not any legal ramifications. It’s a sad state of affairs if you think that’s a way forward.
Monday Night Football, and this particular time slot is not unusual. It’s not the PL responsibility to look at availability of players for games.
Yes, it’s unfortunate on us if those players don’t play. But it’s not the PL’s responsibility to look at who may or may not be available, and to predict what players nations might call up.
More of our games are televised. Of course we are a higher draw.It’s the PL responsibility to repeatedly pick the same team every Monday. Please don’t tell me Leeds or other teams couldn’t have filled in ? Are United being taken advantage of and penalised for being the big draw card while brentfetc get an equal reward from the tv money? A far cry from La liga and other l
