The left-winger market…

bosnian_red said:
Having similar numbers in the serie A to what somebody has in the premier league basically makes them a lesser player... It's a much weaker league.
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Not really, that's devoid of any context. It's not like if you put Cunha in Serie A he'd just score 1.5x as much and vice versa. Le Fee could hardly get a game at Roma and has been great this season, Kayode from Brentford, Reijnders, Thiaw, Okafor, etc. I'm not saying break the bank for him, but he has qualities none of our wingers really have.
 
cj_sparky said:
Christ, Leao is of the profile we should be trying to avoid and if anything is more like players we've shifted or are still hopeful of shifting. He always looks so lazy to me.

We already have a group of inconsistent players in wide areas, Leao is an inconsistent attacker who'll offer none of the defensive work our current wide men do. Massive no from me.
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Yeah I can't ever warm to this guy
 
Avoid Leao, beyond hot and cold. When he is on it he is brilliant when he isn’t beyond anonymous which is more often then not, to top it all off he is horrible off the ball.
 
The leao links are coming from Italy not British journalists doing could be not true. However as we have also been linked with Morgan Rodgers and earlier in the season Ndiaye. Maybe Utd are looking at experienced left winger who can also play in other positions. Leao can also play as striker. Rodgers as AMC. Ndiaye on the other flank.

It's curious...
 
dinostar77 said:
The leao links are coming from Italy not British journalists doing could be not true. However as we have also been linked with Morgan Rodgers and earlier in the season Ndiaye. Maybe Utd are looking at experienced left winger who can also play in other positions. Leao can also play as striker. Rodgers as AMC. Ndiaye on the other flank.

It's curious...
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I’d take the other two over Leao. Leao is the type of player the club is trying to steer away from wouldn’t make sense from any perspective to go get him.
 
Rozay said:
There are no top winger on the market tbh. We would need to speculate and go young I think. I’ve been bemoaning the nonsense the PL has been turning out for a long time now. Even the difference maker Semenyo that City bought in January is rubbish to me. Well not rubbish, but another Mbeumo who has strength and good goalscoring instincts but is a long way from being a top level footballer.

A player like Nusa could be a good pickup given the raw ingredients he has, but he will take some time in the oven.
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The left winger market does feel pretty barren at the moment. It's one of the reasons I would've taken Semenyo in January if he was prepared to come. There was a cap on the fee and we knew what his level was - even if not the one of the very top ones like Kvaratshkhelia.

I think signing a left winger is going to be a bit of an awkward one this summer if we do it. Even a prospect like Diomande will command top end fees, and I'm not sure we'll have that kind of money available with all the work that needs to be done to the midfield. I hope we can do a Lammens type of under the radar deal for this position and have someone who can develop in the background behind Cunha, ideally someone who is rapid, can beat a player and run in behind.
 
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CM said:
The left winger market does feel pretty barren at the moment. It's one of the reasons I would've taken Semenyo in January if he was prepared to come. There was a cap on the fee and we knew what his level was - even if not the one of the very top ones like Kvaratshkhelia.

I think signing a left winger is going to be a bit of an awkward one this summer if we do it. Even a prospect like Diomande will command top end fees, and I'm not sure we'll have that kind of money available with all the work that needs to be done to the midfield. I hope we can do a Lammens type of under the radar deal for this position and have someone who can develop in the background behind Cunha, ideally someone who is rapid and can beat a player and run in behind.
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Yeah ideally we could find someone like that kind of Lammens deal, annoying though if Diomande replaces Salah at scousers and rips it up for them
 
We should try everything to get Barcola, he does not start for them in most important matches as they have Doue and Khvicha as wingers, he is amazing dribbler one on one, will help us stretch the pitch. His finishing is very hit and miss but something that could be improved with time, He will make us proper exciting to watch.
 
Fahad Jawaid said:
We should try everything to get Barcola, he does not start for them in most important matches as they have Doue and Khvicha as wingers, he is amazing dribbler one on one, will help us stretch the pitch. His finishing is very hit and miss but something that could be improved with time, He will make us proper exciting to watch.
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PSG are also after Alvarez which would further limit his opportunities if they manage it.
 
Rozay said:
There are no top winger on the market tbh. We would need to speculate and go young I think. I’ve been bemoaning the nonsense the PL has been turning out for a long time now. Even the difference maker Semenyo that City bought in January is rubbish to me. Well not rubbish, but another Mbeumo who has strength and good goalscoring instincts but is a long way from being a top level footballer.

A player like Nusa could be a good pickup given the raw ingredients he has, but he will take some time in the oven.
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That's why it's better to focus on other areas of the pitch first. After CMs, maybe a new LB. Having someone who constantly overlaps will help Cunha on the left flank immensely.
 
Orange Tree said:
That's why it's better to focus on other areas of the pitch first. After CMs, maybe a new LB. Having someone who constantly overlaps will help Cunha on the left flank immensely.
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I don’t see why Dorgu can’t do that.
 
Fahad Jawaid said:
We should try everything to get Barcola, he does not start for them in most important matches as they have Doue and Khvicha as wingers, he is amazing dribbler one on one, will help us stretch the pitch. His finishing is very hit and miss but something that could be improved with time, He will make us proper exciting to watch.
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How much do you think it would take for them to sell?
 
CM said:
The left winger market does feel pretty barren at the moment. It's one of the reasons I would've taken Semenyo in January if he was prepared to come. There was a cap on the fee and we knew what his level was - even if not the one of the very top ones like Kvaratshkhelia.

I think signing a left winger is going to be a bit of an awkward one this summer if we do it. Even a prospect like Diomande will command top end fees, and I'm not sure we'll have that kind of money available with all the work that needs to be done to the midfield. I hope we can do a Lammens type of under the radar deal for this position and have someone who can develop in the background behind Cunha, ideally someone who is rapid, can beat a player and run in behind.
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My thinking exactly, we have Cunha and he is a starter who we just spent £70m on and is doing well. However we need another option for depth and variety but with Cunha in mind, so a developing player who doesn't cost too much in fees and wages will be perfect for us.
 
AneRu said:
My thinking exactly, we have Cunha and he is a starter who we just spent £70m on and is doing well. However we need another option for depth and variety but with Cunha in mind, so a developing player who doesn't cost too much in fees and wages will be perfect for us.
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Cunha is not a left winger. Passable deputy but this team still needs the balance and injection of pace/dynamism a left winger will offer. We also need better fullbacks.

Sometimes winning the league is as simple as plugging the gaps in the squad. We need to stop the half measures and stretching the useful life of players like Shaw, Dalot etc a just buy the right players.
 
McLvnsMuse said:
Cunha is not a left winger. Passable deputy but this team still needs the balance and injection of pace/dynamism a left winger will offer. We also need better fullbacks.

Sometimes winning the league is as simple as plugging the gaps in the squad. We need to stop the half measures and stretching the useful life of players like Shaw, Dalot etc a just buy the right players.
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Cunha is not a LW, agreed but many teams have succeeded with a Left Forward instead of a strict tear away LW. It's not an immediate need so a young signing or an academy promotion, provided we have one who ready, will do.

No argument on the Left Back but I think we can poddle along with Dalot and Mazraoui for one more season. We can't do everything in one summer, sustained progression is the way and that means tolerating a bit of imperfection whilst you pug the major holes.
 
AneRu said:
Cunha is not a LW, agreed but many teams have succeeded with a Left Forward instead of a strict tear away LW. It's not an immediate need so a young signing or an academy promotion, provided we have one who ready, will do.

No argument on the Left Back but I think we can poddle along with Dalot and Mazraoui for one more season. We can't do everything in one summer, sustained progression is the way and that means tolerating a bit of imperfection whilst you pug the major holes.
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“We can’t do everything in one summer” is how the glazers get away with underinvesting in this team.

By the time we get around to plugging all the other holes It’ll be time to replace Cunha, Mbuemo and Bruno (another set of holes that “cant be plugged in one window”)
 
dinostar77 said:
Manchester United could turn to Portuguese winger Rafael Leao, 26, in the summer, with AC Milan open to exploring a swap deal involving 28-year-old England forward Marcus Rashford, 25-year-old Uruguay midfielder Manuel Ugarte or Netherlands striker Joshua Zirkzee, 24. (La Gazzetta dello Sport - in Italian, external
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Rashford won't want to go to AC Milan and I doubt they would pay Ugarte his current salary.

Ugarte+Zirkzee for Leao also doesn't make sense. They are both worth about £30m. Maybe Ugarte+15m. But it won't happen anyways. Nor shouldn't it probably.
 
dinostar77 said:
Manchester United could turn to Portuguese winger Rafael Leao, 26, in the summer, with AC Milan open to exploring a swap deal involving 28-year-old England forward Marcus Rashford, 25-year-old Uruguay midfielder Manuel Ugarte or Netherlands striker Joshua Zirkzee, 24. (La Gazzetta dello Sport - in Italian, external
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Anyone watch enough AC Milan games to comment on him? I remember him being electric in some CL matches. but is he also criticised for being inconsistent and not tracking back?
 
Rozay said:
I don’t see why Dorgu can’t do that.
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Yes. But one Dorgu is not enough. Dorgu is also very versatile, so I can see him plays on the right side too from time to time as he has done before.
 
We saw in the CL semi final what a top winger can bring. I hope we bring someone talented and exciting in
 
MyOnlySolskjaer said:
Kroupi is the player we should be after. Slots in the left and good competition for Sesko upfront.
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I like the look of him too and would be on board if we ended up signing more than one forward this summer. Perhaps he'd still be worth pursuing if we can't find a specialist left winger who offers a different profile to Cunha, but my preference would be to sign that type of player first.
 
McLvnsMuse said:
“We can’t do everything in one summer” is how the glazers get away with underinvesting in this team.

By the time we get around to plugging all the other holes It’ll be time to replace Cunha, Mbuemo and Bruno (another set of holes that “cant be plugged in one window”)
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Hard to fund that amount of signings when unlike City we don't have a bottomless pit of money available
 
dinostar77 said:
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If Diomande is sadly a no-go, then I would happily take Rogers as an alternative if possible. Although he is quite similar to Cunha in a number of ways, including positionally, those ways also include showing that on his day he is the kind of player capable of winning a match single-handedly. Those are always useful to have. He's at a good age as well, still with a bit of room to kick on further.
 
McLvnsMuse said:
“We can’t do everything in one summer” is how the glazers get away with underinvesting in this team.

By the time we get around to plugging all the other holes It’ll be time to replace Cunha, Mbuemo and Bruno (another set of holes that “cant be plugged in one window”)
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Thats the reality of rebuilds. That's why getting us to the point where we are a truly top 5 European team is not imminent...

Our new attackers like Cunha and Mbeumo aren't good enough for the elite tier anyway, that's fine. They weren't signed to be one and done, solving the position to be CL winner ready. It's an incremental step to be a steady top 4 side first, and then we have to improve on them to jump beyond top 4. It's hard to get elite level attackers or any position really. We weren't in a position to sign those last year, and I don't think we're in a position to sign them this summer.

The best case scenario is we manage to get someone like Tchouameni in midfield, some players like Mainoo, Amad, Sesko step up to be elite players and give us real star power before Bruno's time as a world class player is done. Not sure that'll happen in time.
 
We're probably going to skip LW position this summer, or perhaps take a cheaper punt. I think Dorgu is more of a LB than LW, but the club is going to try shoehorning him to the wing and instead buy a left-back which is going to be significantly cheaper than a left winger.

LW is likely going to be the biggest hole in the starting 11/squad upcoming season(not taking into account potential injuries...) - we're going to play a left sided #10(Cunha), and left wingback/back(Dorgu) there.

Whole budget is gonna go to midfield + a left-back. Summer 2027 is when we hopefully go after a proper LW.

The only one this summer worth bringing is Diomande, but he's too expensive for us and probably going to Liverpool or Arsenal, if not staying at Leipzig for one more season.
 
Either go for Barcola from PSG or scout and get similar players like Estevoa from Brazil, they are normally undervalued, plus technically they are on a different level. They also possess excellent dribbling, flair and skills (coming from Brazil). It will be great to have an understudy to Cunha.
 
philippexyz said:
We're probably going to skip LW position this summer, or perhaps take a cheaper punt. I think Dorgu is more of a LB than LW, but the club is going to try shoehorning him to the wing and instead buy a left-back which is going to be significantly cheaper than a left winger.

LW is likely going to be the biggest hole in the starting 11/squad upcoming season(not taking into account potential injuries...) - we're going to play a left sided #10(Cunha), and left wingback/back(Dorgu) there.

Whole budget is gonna go to midfield + a left-back. Summer 2027 is when we hopefully go after a proper LW.

The only one this summer worth bringing is Diomande, but he's too expensive for us and probably going to Liverpool or Arsenal, if not staying at Leipzig for one more season.
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Could stomach him going to Arsenal than scousers
 
I don’t get the links. There are so many areas we need players and we are constantly linked with more wingers. I know we are light in this area but we did sign Cunha and Mbeumo last summer. Amad for rotation. If Mount can stay fit he played LW for Chelsea on many occasion. And then there is Lacey. Focus should be on CM. If the club could get a Lammens type signing for the wing then fine but spending over £50m would be insanity.
 
I cant see the budget stretching to a signing like Diomande with midfield priorities unless we are ruthless selling some amongst the likes of shaw, mount, dalot and even amad.
We do also have Gabriel possibly getting game time.
I think Mateus Mane and Jeremy Monga despite there tender years would be astute and fantastic signings...both have genuine star potential...of course there is the patience needed with none ready to start and tge argument of already having gabriel and lacey as fantastic young players for each flank breaking through next season.
Mane would be the one for me though with his versatility too
 
Don’t you already have a world class LW in Marcus Rashford?
 
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