The focus is CMs. It's what's left over afterwards in terms of the budget, which will decide what we do.I don’t get the links. There are so many areas we need players and we are constantly linked with more wingers. I know we are light in this area but we did sign Cunha and Mbeumo last summer. Amad for rotation. If Mount can stay fit he played LW for Chelsea on many occasion. And then there is Lacey. Focus should be on CM. If the club could get a Lammens type signing for the wing then fine but spending over £50m would be insanity.
I disagree. I think we have two elite attackers in Cunha and Mbuemo. I mean take a look at teams in the champions league semi finals. I’d much rather have our two than say Arsenal and Atletico. PSG and Bayern’s are probably on another level but beyond them…we are definitely up there.Thats the reality of rebuilds. That's why getting us to the point where we are a truly top 5 European team is not imminent...
Our new attackers like Cunha and Mbeumo aren't good enough for the elite tier anyway, that's fine. They weren't signed to be one and done, solving the position to be CL winner ready. It's an incremental step to be a steady top 4 side first, and then we have to improve on them to jump beyond top 4. It's hard to get elite level attackers or any position really. We weren't in a position to sign those last year, and I don't think we're in a position to sign them this summer.
The best case scenario is we manage to get someone like Tchouameni in midfield, some players like Mainoo, Amad, Sesko step up to be elite players and give us real star power before Bruno's time as a world class player is done. Not sure that'll happen in time.
We need to sign either world class player or world class potential. The latter one sounds like a more realistic in our current situation. So the answer is Diomande. Kvaradona isn't available, that's sure. Diomande at least could be. With three digits of course. Cunha is a good EPL player but maybe not player with world class potential. We need to find some game changer(s). Bruno isn't enough alone and even he can miss some games.We saw in the CL semi final what a top winger can bring. I hope we bring someone talented and exciting in
Mateus Mane is the answer for me assuming we don't have £70-80m going spare for the likes of Diomande and Barcola,I cant see the budget stretching to a signing like Diomande with midfield priorities unless we are ruthless selling some amongst the likes of shaw, mount, dalot and even amad.
We do also have Gabriel possibly getting game time.
I think Mateus Mane and Jeremy Monga despite there tender years would be astute and fantastic signings...both have genuine star potential...of course there is the patience needed with none ready to start and tge argument of already having gabriel and lacey as fantastic young players for each flank breaking through next season.
Mane would be the one for me though with his versatility too
We do also have Gabriel possibly getting game time.
I think Mateus Mane and Jeremy Monga despite there tender years would be astute and fantastic signings...both have genuine star potential...
Atletico have a better front 3 than anyone in the premier league... Alvarez, Lookman, griezmann all still brilliant players.I disagree. I think we have two elite attackers in Cunha and Mbuemo. I mean take a look at teams in the champions league semi finals. I’d much rather have our two than say Arsenal and Atletico. PSG and Bayern’s are probably on another level but beyond them…we are definitely up there.
Better than Haaland, Semenyo, and Doku?Atletico have a better front 3 than anyone in the premier league... Alvarez, Lookman, griezmann all still brilliant players.
Arsenals big issue is their attack is not good enough for what they want to be. In terms of front 3, I wouldn't say there much between what we have and what they have. Cunha would start for them, sesko better than Gyokeres, Saka better than our right wingers but none are special players.
Definitely not. Throw Cherki on the right for good measure and that's the best front three outside of PSG and Bayern.Better than Haaland, Semenyo, and Doku?
Summerville for me, hopefully on the cheap if west ham go down.Mateus Mane is the answer for me assuming we don't have £70-80m going spare for the likes of Diomande and Barcola,
Super versatile and is young+cheap enough that we'd find suitors if in 2 years it wasn't fully working out.
Provided his price is reasonable £30-35m then we should be quick and move on to other positions.
Cherki is a 10, not a winger. Though you could probably compare him to Griezmann, but yeah he's still not ahead of Griezmann anyway. Their front 3 isn't better than Madrid's or Barca's either.Definitely not. Throw Cherki on the right for good measure and that's the best front three outside of PSG and Bayern.
Yeah for me... Semenyo is basically Mbeumo level IMO, he's nothing special. Doku is good but is he better than Lookman? I wouldn't say so... Alvarez is also absolutely brilliant and the balance of theirs is better than the balance of City's.Better than Haaland, Semenyo, and Doku?
Literally played as a winger for them this season for large parts of it? And he definitely is. Haaland is better than Alvarez, Cherki is better than Griezmann, Doku and Lookman is a toss up, depends on who shows up.Cherki is a 10, not a winger. Though you could probably compare him to Griezmann, but yeah he's still not ahead of Griezmann anyway. Their front 3 isn't better than Madrid's or Barca's either.
Yeah for me... Semenyo is basically Mbeumo level IMO, he's nothing special. Doku is good but is he better than Lookman? I wouldn't say so... Alvarez is also absolutely brilliant and the balance of theirs is better than the balance of City's.
Get the Georgian lad from PSG since they getting Diomande. Possibly the best player in the world to watch.
I don’t see him as someone who will beat players on the outside and cross the ball. Thats what we need.
Get the Georgian lad from PSG since they getting Diomande.
Do you just go from thread to thread arguing with everyone? You’re making us goldens look badNo it's not. Who does that nowadays? It's more the job of the full-backs.
Since when are they getting him?!
He didn't hit form til he started playing as a 10. He's nothing special as a winger (I also don't think he's a "special player" yet anyway, has his moments but also lots of ineffective games). It's also different individually comparing them compared to how they work as a unit. City's attack is not anything special for once, despite Haaland being world class obviously.Literally played as a winger for them this season for large parts of it? And he definitely is. Haaland is better than Alvarez, Cherki is better than Griezmann, Doku and Lookman is a toss up, depends on who shows up.
Getting Barcola out of PSG will be impressive, however they have so much depth it might be possibleEither go for Barcola from PSG or scout and get similar players like Estevoa from Brazil, they are normally undervalued, plus technically they are on a different level. They also possess excellent dribbling, flair and skills (coming from Brazil). It will be great to have an understudy to Cunha.
PSG are apparently after Alvarez and Diomande which would be added to Kvara, Dembele, Doue and a couple of youngsters they’ve got coming through so Barcola may actually be available for the right priceGetting Barcola out of PSG will be impressive, however they have so much depth it might be possible
Again, sign Diomande.
Even if he's a rotation on the LW, worst case he also probably ousts one or both of Amad or Mbeumo on the RW.
Signing two midfielders won’t be enough unfortunately. We are already short and with Casemiro leaving, we will have less options and more games next season. Ugarte has to go, considering how short we are in midfield right now and he can’t get a game.I think we will try. He’s the standout target in his position, and it’s a position we absolutely need. We should have a good relationship with Leipzig too with Vivell and after the Sesko deal - a deal which has included a friendly match which is still to come.
I’d take two good midfielders and Diomande as three summer signings rather than trying to stack up numbers. Move Dorgu to left back and we should really improve with that.
Signing two midfielders won’t be enough unfortunately. We are already short and with Casemiro leaving, we will have less options and more games next season. Ugarte has to go, considering how short we are in midfield right now and he can’t get a game.
Again, sign Diomande.
Even if he's a rotation on the LW, worst case he also probably ousts one or both of Amad or Mbeumo on the RW.
Diomande is a brilliant young LW but surely we have to reckon that he'll go for at least 80m. Are you thinking that Diamande will be cover for Cunha or that we sell Cunha to make room for Diomande? I've only watched highlights of him so far, but it appears he's play more on the right than the left this season. Are you thinking that we drop either Mbeumo or Amad or would he be cover for wherever he's needed on either wing?
I think the fact that Diomande wouldn't be under pressure to start every game here would actually be a plus for him rather than a minus as well.I basically already addressed your questions in the comment you posted...
Diomande can play both wings to a very high standard.
Obviously United won't sell Cunha to make way for Diomande, he has been United's best attacker under Carrick. However, considering United will be in Europe next season and have a ton more games, Cunha can't start every game, or play every minute of the games he starts. There will be plenty of opportunity for Diomande to play on the LW. And if Mbeumo and Amad continue to be so terrible, there will be plenty of opportunity for Diomande to also play on the RW as well.
I think the fact that Diomande wouldn't be under pressure to start every game here would actually be a plus for him rather than a minus as well.
If he does leave Leipzig this summer, he's going for a big fee. Justifiably so, in my opinion. He's had a crazy good season there and I think from what he's shown he could very well reach the level that the very best wingers in the game right now are showing.
I think this is one of the first transfer takes I've really disagreed with you on!If Diomande is sadly a no-go, then I would happily take Rogers as an alternative if possible. Although he is quite similar to Cunha in a number of ways, including positionally, those ways also include showing that on his day he is the kind of player capable of winning a match single-handedly. Those are always useful to have. He's at a good age as well, still with a bit of room to kick on further.
I'm quite encouraged by the noises that we're after a "left-wing Amad", since I do think that's the sort of profile we need to be looking at. Amad himself has been completely out of sorts for most of the season but at his best he's frenetic and unpredictable, with the ability to cut in or go to the byline. I think this is the sort of profile of wide player we're lacking on the left.
My view is kind of that we should make a serious attempt at signing Diomande and, if we can't get him, perhaps wait it out another season at left-wing. The other one who might tempt me if he were to somehow become available would be Barcola. I can't see that materialising, though.
I think we both have a similarly high opinion of Diomande for sure!Agreed - similar to Sesko he could maybe benefit from some time to bed-in, being a bench or rotation option at first.
Agreed as well.
I sort of see where you're coming from in the sense that we'd be in trouble if Cunha were to get injured. I'm still not massively sold on Dorgu as a left-winger - I think his value there is somewhat situational. He didn't offer much at all when we were playing against some of the cannon-fodder sides.It's impossible to wait it out another season with the extra games United have. Cunha is already carrying the attack on his own back at times recently and struggles to last the full 90 at a decent intensity! If he's out, United are screwed. It's the biggest priority after CM.
Yeah obviously Barcola would be the next best alternative to Diomande, but as you say it seems unlikely.
After those two, I don't think there are really any other worthwhile options in the style of a "left-wing Amad"; Rogers isn't that, but he's very effective regardless. He's quite similar to Cunha, but considering how good Cunha has been I wouldn't complain at having an extra one. Rogers can also play as the 10 as well if ever Bruno needs resting.
As I just posted in the other thread, Rogers has 8 goals 10 assists in the PL last season, and 9 goals 5 assists in this one - that's more G+A contributions than any United player this season except for Bruno. And he's only 23 as well.
Here's a purely hypothetical question that I'd be super interested to hear your take on - in a world where we had the ability to sign either Tchouameni/Anderson or Diomande but not both, which would you go for?
Oh, I quite agree!I'm going to dodge the question a bit by saying if United could attract Tchouameni/Anderson, and Diomande, then they should definitely sign both.
Tchouameni or Anderson would obviously be the first choice partner for Mainoo in CM. Beyond them I think there are enough cheaper CM options that even with a restricted budget they could still bring in 2 additional very good players while also still getting Diomande. e.g. Wouter Burger 35mil, Fernandes 45mil if West Ham go down, Kees Smit 35mil, Shea Charles 20mil, Siltanen 15mil etc.
Sure, but £80m is a lot to spend on a squad man, meaning Diomande. And it’s not as though Shea Lacey doesn’t exist.I basically already addressed your questions in the comment you posted...
Diomande can play both wings to a very high standard.
Obviously United won't sell Cunha to make way for Diomande, he has been United's best attacker under Carrick. However, considering United will be in Europe next season and have a ton more games, Cunha can't start every game, or play every minute of the games he starts. There will be plenty of opportunity for Diomande to play on the LW. And if Mbeumo and Amad continue to be so terrible, there will be plenty of opportunity for Diomande to also play on the RW as well.
