The left-winger market…

I'm not sure where the graphic is someone put in one of the threads, but if you look at our squad:


I would say we are losing:

Casemiro
Zirzkzee
Ugarte
Bayandir

I would not be counting on these players to play the extra amount of games next season without injury:

Shaw
Mount
De Ligt
Martinez

So we at mininmum need to replace 4 players that are leaving and we'll only get money for 2 of them. Add to the fact we have two CBs, a LB and a midfielder/attacker that can't really be relied upon to stay fit, I do think the needs will require us to fork out that kind of money - unless we're shopping in the bargain bin. That's before you even think of upgrading the squad, ie having more options than this season.


Agreed. HUGE amounts needed this summer if we want to compete in any competition
 
Saw some links to Jonahan Rowe,
On paper he looks the kind of profile Chelsea would pay the 35m for as they assume some upside.
However looking at his highlights, he’s an excellent player - he had 12 goals in the championship, less at Marseille and Bologna. But looking at those goals and striking ability, they are pin point edge of the box, consistent.
He also has good street style dribbling similiar to Ndiaye. Perhaps not as glued to his foot, but that kind of style.

Think he would be worth looking at 27-32m area. I’d say he could easily do well in CL next year or at worst develop into a solid mid level PL player.
 
Saw some links to Jonahan Rowe,
On paper he looks the kind of profile Chelsea would pay the 35m for as they assume some upside.
However looking at his highlights, he’s an excellent player - he had 12 goals in the championship, less at Marseille and Bologna. But looking at those goals and striking ability, they are pin point edge of the box, consistent.
He also has good street style dribbling similiar to Ndiaye. Perhaps not as glued to his foot, but that kind of style.

Think he would be worth looking at 27-32m area. I’d say he could easily do well in CL next year or at worst develop into a solid mid level PL player.
I haven't seen a lot, but I like what I've seen of him
 
Saw some links to Jonahan Rowe,
On paper he looks the kind of profile Chelsea would pay the 35m for as they assume some upside.
However looking at his highlights, he’s an excellent player - he had 12 goals in the championship, less at Marseille and Bologna. But looking at those goals and striking ability, they are pin point edge of the box, consistent.
He also has good street style dribbling similiar to Ndiaye. Perhaps not as glued to his foot, but that kind of style.

Think he would be worth looking at 27-32m area. I’d say he could easily do well in CL next year or at worst develop into a solid mid level PL player.

Let Chelsea add him to their madhouse and winger stockpile, he seems like another who has an attitude to avoid.
 
Let Chelsea add him to their madhouse and winger stockpile, he seems like another who has an attitude to avoid.
The fight? Both players left Marseille.
I did an AI search on Italian media reaction to him and one comment said fans and players at Bologna like his relaxed personality.
 
The fight? Both players left Marseille.
I did an AI search on Italian media reaction to him and one comment said fans and players at Bologna like his relaxed personality.

Yeah "the fight" that was bad enough for Marseille to suspend both of them and transfer list them. The fight that supposedly started after Rowe was called out for a lack of effort by more than one senior player. Or the fact that he left Norwich in the lurch a summer earlier by withdrawing from a squad a couple of hours before kick off due to transfer interest and "not being in the right mindset".

Is he really worth £40m+, when there is noise Chelsea have already had £35m offer rejected. I'm not sure his output at both Marseille and Bologna warrants the money in question.
 
Yeah "the fight" that was bad enough for Marseille to suspend both of them and transfer list them. The fight that supposedly started after Rowe was called out for a lack of effort by more than one senior player. Or the fact that he left Norwich in the lurch a summer earlier by withdrawing from a squad a couple of hours before kick off due to transfer interest and "not being in the right mindset".

Is he really worth £40m+, when there is noise Chelsea have already had £35m offer rejected. I'm not sure his output at both Marseille and Bologna warrants the money in question.
I take the Marseille news with a pinch of salt, I personally think there’s a toxic culture there led by Benatia.
 
I think we will stick with Cunha as our main LW, Dorgu as the backup option, and buying a new no 9 to compete with Sesko.
 
I’ve got a feeling we’re going to save money and give Rashford another chance. Carrick might be able to unleash him again. I’m not saying it’s what I want but I’ve a feeling it may happen
 
I’ve got a feeling we’re going to save money and give Rashford another chance. Carrick might be able to unleash him again. I’m not saying it’s what I want but I’ve a feeling it may happen
It makes sense to keep Rashford. He can play across the front positions and can rotate with all the front players.
 
It makes sense to keep Rashford. He can play across the front positions and can rotate with all the front players.
All depends if his attitudes changed. I mean he won’t have the Sancho, lingard to distract him. We’re building the right culture at the minute and can’t afford for it to go back to how it was
 
All depends if his attitudes changed. I mean he won’t have the Sancho, lingard to distract him. We’re building the right culture at the minute and can’t afford for it to go back to how it was

I don't recall Lingard and Sancho being out in Dublin with him? Why are their names blamed as "distractions"? Marcus is his own man.

When it comes to him returning, a part of me would love him to have a redemption arc here but he would have to settle for a similar role to his role at Barca as a squad man.
 
I’ve got a feeling we’re going to save money and give Rashford another chance. Carrick might be able to unleash him again. I’m not saying it’s what I want but I’ve a feeling it may happen
Unless theres a major u turn at board level, that ain't going to happen. I think The Athetic, Whitwell, Mitten etc have all reported that Utd will sell Rashford to someone else if Barcelona don't pay up. There is no way back for him at Utd
 
This squad is desperate for some more attacking quality. Another player with genuine quality could make all the difference with this group.
 
I'd rather keep Rashford and get a RW in to replace Amad.
 
This team desperately needs someone who is more dangerous in 1 on 1 situations and is capable of being more productive from wide areas. I'd rather go in to next season with Shaw and Dorgu as our left back options than with our current wide attacking options, they're so far off the calibre of the better sides domestically and especially in Europe.
 
I'd rather keep Rashford and get a RW in to replace Amad.

Ideally we could do with a player who can go both sides.

Personally, I still wouldn’t be surprised if we move for Diomande.
 
This squad is desperate for some more attacking quality. Another player with genuine quality could make all the difference with this group.
I have to say that I'm surprised at the amount of people who are fine with our starting attack. If Bruno doesn't create something we usually do nothing.

With all the fixtures next year, there's no way we can go in with our current attack and expect anything good. Everyone seems to agree that we need a CF to compete with Sesko, but we are no threat at all from the wing positions.

When our wingers get the ball, they nearly always go back. We need someone out there who can consistently run at his man, who can keep the ball when isolated out there in tight spaces, who can take some of the creative burden off of Bruno. Amad, Mbeumo, Cunha and Dorgu do not offer this consistently, and we can't expect Lacey to step up to the level needed either.
 
This team desperately needs someone who is more dangerous in 1 on 1 situations and is capable of being more productive from wide areas.
100%. There’s not a single one out there who can do that in our squad. That’s why Morgan Rogers would solve little
 
Amad and Mbeumo on the right are currently easier to upgrade on than Cunha on the left. Both have gone backwards.

We are crying out for a player that can regularly go past his man.
 
100%. There’s not a single one out there who can do that in our squad. That’s why Morgan Rogers would solve little
Definitely not on the Rogers boat, myself.

Not only is it a similar Cunha situation where we'd be shoehorning him out wide, he's 1st in the league for "unsuccessful touches" with 133. 2nd is Igor Thiago with 99, so he's way out in front. He's also 1st in the league for being "dispossessed" with 80. Bowen in 2nd with 71. He's also 1st in the league for "unsuccessful dribbles" with 87. Doku is 2nd with 80, but has completed 82 to Rogers 42.

We need someone who has the ability to keep the ball glued to their feet and who doesn't treat the ball like a hot potato. Rogers sounds like the complete opposite of that
 
No chance we're buying a LW this summer. Especially if we've already got Cunha and Dorgu. The focus should be on getting Cunha more goals next season and building on Dorgu's 2nd half of the season performances where he was clearly improved once we ditched 3-4-3
 
100%. There’s not a single one out there who can do that in our squad. That’s why Morgan Rogers would solve little
Amad and Mbeumo on the right are currently easier to upgrade on than Cunha on the left. Both have gone backwards.

We are crying out for a player that can regularly go past his man.

Amad can go past his man 1vs 1 though, the problem is he currently cacks his kecks in the bit afterwards whenever he manages to get in to a dangerous area.

Obviously ideally you want someone who can dribble and has end product, but ultimately a player who has end product, i.e. can finish or pick out a pass, which Rogers can right now, is preferable to a player who can dribble a lot but then does little with it. See also the issue with Ndiaye as a target, he has similar issues to Amad in that regard.

As I've shown on here before, it's not as if Rogers is completely useless dribbling.

Regardless, I agree that I don't know how anyone can look at United's current attacking midfielders/wingers and not think they could really do with another threatening option in there. If they can play both sides then even better.

As an extra point, I also don't know why Dorgu hasn't been tried RW - he is left-footed after all, and has shown under Carrick he can cut inside and shoot to good effect.
 
100%. There’s not a single one out there who can do that in our squad. That’s why Morgan Rogers would solve little

Don’t see Rogers as being the answer at all. We need a player who is a threat off the ball as well as on it. He’ll just cancel out Cunha, offering similar strengths and weaknesses.
 
No chance we're buying a LW this summer. Especially if we've already got Cunha and Dorgu. The focus should be on getting Cunha more goals next season and building on Dorgu's 2nd half of the season performances where he was clearly improved once we ditched 3-4-3
Goals arent a problem with Cunha. What is the problem is that he doesn't really create, and even though he can dribble, he doesn't run at his opposition fb enough.

We need a winger who can offer both, which we don't have.
 
I honestly wonder if we just blame Amorim for Rashford situation and take him back now. It feels like we have absolutely no one outside of our starting eleven that can impact a game. I fear we have given ourselves too much to do in one summer.
 
Goals arent a problem with Cunha. What is the problem is that he doesn't really create, and even though he can dribble, he doesn't run at his opposition fb enough.

We need a winger who can offer both, which we don't have.

Nor will we get one given that there's no place for a winger in this formation if Cunha is playing. Especially with Dorgu also in the mix for minutes.
 
Nor will we get one given that there's no place for a winger in this formation if Cunha is playing. Especially with Dorgu also in the mix for minutes.
I don't think we'll get one either, and we'll massively regret it because we cannot expect Bruno to bail us out every game next season like this.
 
Minteh at Brighton has a ton of pace and takes his man on all the time, no idea on his end product over the season but he’d be gettable surely.

Would improve the squad.
 
I honestly wonder if we just blame Amorim for Rashford situation and take him back now. It feels like we have absolutely no one outside of our starting eleven that can impact a game. I fear we have given ourselves too much to do in one summer.
Amorim was doing Ineos bidding and unfortunately for Rashford and all those who want to see Rashford back in United's colours they are Still here .
 
Summerville looks a threat every time I’ve seen him. Good in 1v1s and tight spaces. If West Ham go down, we should be able to get him for a decent fee
 
Amorim was doing Ineos bidding and unfortunately for Rashford and all those who want to see Rashford back in United's colours they are Still here .

Football is fickle and it would be very easy to let people just assume it were Amorim. The squad depth is extremely worrying, and I hope they have a plan.
 
I still think that we will go for Diomande this summer if the chance arises.
 
Dorgu should be consider as LB and only occasionally play LW because of special need. He just does not have the quality of a LW that can beat his man and attack. He is more of a Ji Sung, Park. Ideally we could go and find ourselves some LW that can play both LW and Forward. Best case scenario for us because really our squad are not up to par if we even just want to have some deep run into the cups competiton next year. After the 11, we can see that the quality are not there even just to back up. So we need more versatile players that can cover positions.

With the names that we link with, Leao is a worthy consideration if most of our targets are not gettable. He has his flaws but also his quality. For me, it just a worthy speculation like what PSG did with Dembele. Potential upside is huge if can get him be consistence and reduce his flaw to an acceptable amount. Again, he is like a last resort for me if we want to gamble on that.
 
Minteh at Brighton has a ton of pace and takes his man on all the time, no idea on his end product over the season but he’d be gettable surely.

Would improve the squad.
I really like him, but he's got lots of developing to do still and Brighton would ask for stupid money
 
Minteh at Brighton has a ton of pace and takes his man on all the time, no idea on his end product over the season but he’d be gettable surely.

Would improve the squad.
Eh…don’t know if I only ever caught him on his bad days but every time I watched Brighton and he’s on the pitch he’s consistently made Dalot looks like an intelligent footballer. The guy is all brawn and no brain, or guile.