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Man i really hope dustin moves foward and we can get a title fight this year. Dustin v charles is what we mma fans want to watch next. Should be a proper war. I don't feel like seeing that irish clown in a top 10 fight again until he does something to deserve it.
Agree. Time to keep moving. Dustin vs Charles gonna be awesome.

This weekend, Khabib's heir returns to the octagon. Islam Makhachev (19-1) fights Thiago Moisés (15-4).


Good time to rewatch this great fight between two guys that could be UFC champions one day.

 

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I just remembered McGregor ripped the piss out of RDA when he got injured in the build up to the McGregor fight... Just desserts.
 

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McGregors career reminds me of Rousey. Had one dominant strength and did very well off of that. Eventually people got wise to it and caught up to it and he has little to no plan B. If people can nullify him the fight is pretty easy for them really. He drastically needs to change camps because he is going nowhere fast where he is. The reality is though he probably won't due to a weird sense of loyalty and also I think he likes being the big fish there who can do what he wants.

He probably fights Dustin again and loses, Dustin will take the fight cos it is still the biggest money maker and pretty easy work. McGregor fans are still there cos they have an excuse with how this fight ended so there is milage to make the fight.

The post fight stuff is honestly all a bit tragic. From the interview to the senseless ranting and he's still at it now, for a man who uses to have such confidence and self awareness he really had lost the plot.
 

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McGregors career reminds me of Rousey. Had one dominant strength and did very well off of that. Eventually people got wise to it and caught up to it and he has little to no plan B. If people can nullify him the fight is pretty easy for them really. He drastically needs to change camps because he is going nowhere fast where he is. The reality is though he probably won't due to a weird sense of loyalty and also I think he likes being the big fish there who can do what he wants.

He probably fights Dustin again and loses, Dustin will take the fight cos it is still the biggest money maker and pretty easy work. McGregor fans are still there cos they have an excuse with how this fight ended so there is milage to make the fight.

The post fight stuff is honestly all a bit tragic. From the interview to the senseless ranting and he's still at it now, for a man who uses to have such confidence and self awareness he really had lost the plot.
He's won one fight at l55lbs. Lost decisively to Khabib and decisively against DP twice. He simply doesn't have the power at LW to knock these guys over like he did at FW. It's not like he can't hit them, he can, but they're not toppling over and he's suffering in the pocket. He'll rely on his star power to get another shot at DP but personally I've seen enough.
 
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He kept going and deleted some very bad tweets this morning, including a pic of Poirer's daughter.

The prick goes way over the line.
 

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He kept going and deleted some very bad tweets this morning, including a pic of Poirer's daughter.

The prick goes way over the line.
He's gonna get hurt bad by someone outside the ring the way he's going.
 

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In case anyone had any lingering doubts of what an absolute scumbag this guy is...




I dont understand the top one. The botom one is just :lol: dangerous man in the first minute of a fight is what he meant :lol:
 

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He's won one fight at l55lbs. Lost decisively to Khabib and decisively against DP twice. He simply doesn't have the power at LW to knock these guys over like he did at FW. It's not like he can't hit them, he can, but they're not toppling over and he's suffering in the pocket. He'll rely on his star power to get another shot at DP but personally I've seen enough.
I think both things are true, he doesn't have one punch power in the division now like he did at 145 for example but the power is still there if he had multiple disciplines in his game which he doesn't.

He hurt Nate, he stopped Cowboy (I know it's not much of an achievement etc anymore), Dustin said he hurt him in their last fight as well. If he had something else in his game, i.e. lets say he was a good wrestler then I think he'd cause more problems and probably get a few TKOs just due to the amount of pressure he's putting on the fighter....I think if he was landing 10 punches instead of 1 for example he'd still do damage but I dont think he has it in him to learn anything else in all honesty. There is plenty of fighters who aren't the most powerful but have got TKO wins because of pressure....even Domicick Cruz has one!

If he carries on I imagine he loses to any top ranked fighter because of that unwillingness to change, he'll beat a few handpicked opponents but that'll be it. I think the ranked guys will be desperate to fight him still because he has star power and they can make a lot more money off it. Dustin would probably be happy to fight him for the rest of his career cos he'd probably win every time and he'd be making more money.

They've apparently since been deleted.

https://mmajunkie.usatoday.com/2021...rier-and-his-family-in-cryptic-deleted-tweets

Clearly the guy is living in such an inflatedly delusional fantasy world, where he can't seem to admit he can lose a fight. Its almost Trump levels of delusion.
He's odd but the cult like fans will see past it and find it funny etc.

Some of the people in the media with traction should call it out. Rogan, Helwani etc but they won't say a word because they know if they piss him off there's no chance he's going on their shows and he still brings in huge viewers.
 

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He’ll be broke not long after retiring, he just seems the type
He's a weird case McGregor....he puts pictures on Instagram etc of him on yachts or planes and what not but he lives relatively privately in all honesty. In the 90s for example you'd see pictures of Tyson everywhere and know he's spunking money, same with Mayweather but MCGregor we don't actually know anything like that. I'd imagine all the stuff on yachts/planes etc are all rented anyway or even possibly loaned to him for free. It's a weird one with him. I think a lot of it is ego. Whilst obviously the MMA is what he is known for he'd have a huge following and other investments if he retired tomorrow, he's not making huge cash off MMA directly albeit it obviously gives him some clout with other things (some sponsors may feck him off if he's not fighting etc.)

It will soon get to the point people will stop backing him financially though. It isn't a good look being associated with someone who is threatening to kill kids and if it gains enough traction i imagine he'll have to apologise or some will feck him off.
 

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The threats to hurt Poirier's daughter are absolutely disgusting. I can't imagine being Dustin at the moment, and can't imagine his reaction.

None of this is "cool" or "edgy". He's just a moron, and this type of behaviour is going to result in something bad happening to him one day.
 

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The threats to hurt Poirier's daughter are absolutely disgusting. I can't imagine being Dustin at the moment, and can't imagine his reaction.

None of this is "cool" or "edgy". He's just a moron, and this type of behaviour is going to result in something bad happening to him one day.
Hopefully Khabib finds him on the streets somewhere.
 

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Dana White needs to do something. That's very troubling, very disturbing behaviour.
 

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Dana White needs to do something. That's very troubling, very disturbing behaviour.
He obviously views Conor as a massive cash cow who can get away with doing virtually anything. The only exception would be if he disrespects Dana himself - such as training in Iceland and not wanting to come to Vegas to do UFC promotion, then having his fight cancelled. If he was any less of a cash cow he would've been banned for life after the dolly throwing incident alone.
 

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If I was Dustin I’d take the immediate rematch and then chop away at that leg and after I’d had broken it I’d ankle lock him and rip his limb clean off after him involving his daughter. If he ends up seriously hurting McGregor — it would have been self inflicted. He doesn’t seem to realise that some words have very significant repercussions — one day he’ll learn that the brutal way and I’ll have not an ounce of sympathy for him.
 

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He obviously views Conor as a massive cash cow who can get away with doing virtually anything. The only exception would be if he disrespects Dana himself - such as training in Iceland and not wanting to come to Vegas to do UFC promotion, then having his fight cancelled. If he was any less of a cash cow he would've been banned for life after the dolly throwing incident alone.
I think something dodgy happened with the UFC 200 incident. I've got no proof of it all but it just seems weird that Conor can literally do whatever he wants and a fight got cancelled for something like that. Conor's fights don't even need much promotion and it was UFC 200 AND it was probably the biggest rematch ever in UFC at the time, on top of that Rousey barely did any promotion 7 fights later and he was fine with that....equally the likes of McGregor now barely do as much as they used to and Dana is fine with that. It's all a bit weird.

I dunno what it was, maybe an injury/McGregor wasn't ready/banned substances I dunno but it just always seems dead odd that it happened because the reality is compared to other stuff he has done training in Iceland is very timid and actually a pretty reasonable thing to ask to do.
 

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I think something dodgy happened with the UFC 200 incident. I've got no proof of it all but it just seems weird that Conor can literally do whatever he wants and a fight got cancelled for something like that. Conor's fights don't even need much promotion and it was UFC 200 AND it was probably the biggest rematch ever in UFC at the time, on top of that Rousey barely did any promotion 7 fights later and he was fine with that....equally the likes of McGregor now barely do as much as they used to and Dana is fine with that. It's all a bit weird.

I dunno what it was, maybe an injury/McGregor wasn't ready/banned substances I dunno but it just always seems dead odd that it happened because the reality is compared to other stuff he has done training in Iceland is very timid and actually a pretty reasonable thing to ask to do.
I could be wrong but maybe it was the first time McGregor stepped out of line so Dana tried to show an example. Also, if memory serves me correct, Dana demanded he turn up to the presser and he didnt. Rousey was different because she probably stated she doesn't want to do promotion before coming back and also, McGregor's personality did more for the promotion of fights than Rousey's did. Now Conor promotes less but makes a big splash with what he does do.

Dana probably also thought the 200th event AND securing Brock Lesnar can cushion the blow of missing McGregor also...

I have no real insight into the above, just thoughts.
 

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He's indulged at every level...


And that's not even showing his blatant glove grabbing inches from Dean's eyes. Incompetent ref at best, corrupt at worst.
 

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Privately that bald fecker will encourage it. He's probably good for one or two more massive PPV paydays and that's all White cares about.
If he cares so much about money why the hell he won't pay Jones and Ngannou mega money ? He would probably get a nice profit after the fight.
 

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If he cares so much about money why the hell he won't pay Jones and Ngannou mega money ? He would probably get a nice profit after the fight.
He doesn't want these two to set a precedent. If these two get a raise, more and more fighters will want that too.

McGregor bought in a lot of casual eyeballs from the start and was the anomaly in terms of pay.

No one else is getting a piece of that pie for a long time.
 

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He obviously views Conor as a massive cash cow who can get away with doing virtually anything. The only exception would be if he disrespects Dana himself - such as training in Iceland and not wanting to come to Vegas to do UFC promotion, then having his fight cancelled. If he was any less of a cash cow he would've been banned for life after the dolly throwing incident alone.
I see what you're saying but Dana protects the UFC brand above all. If Conor were to do anything that could damage the UFC brand to a massive extent, i'm sure Dana would act...

And Conor gives away the impression that he is willing to cross boundaries that most people wouldn't cross.
 

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He doesn't want these two to set a precedent. If these two get a raise, more and more fighters will want that too.

McGregor bought in a lot of casual eyeballs from the start and was the anomaly in terms of pay.

No one else is getting a piece of that pie for a long time.
There's a lawsuit going on though. Let's see if anything comes out of that.
 

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Just seen the news of the tweets of Dustin's daughter. The guy should have been banned for life after the bus incident and now he should be cut and never allowed near the UFC again. Pure fecking scum is all he is and I'm glad that I underestimated Dustin and that @Ladron de redcafe was right that he has very much surpassed Conor at this point. I mean Dana banned Paul Daley for life for a late shot on Koscheck but Conor can do whatever the hell he wants. It's actually embarrassing for the UFC at this point. I actually worry for Dee and the people around him, the guy is unhinged and his ego can't handle his fall from the top.
 

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If I was Dustin I’d take the immediate rematch and then chop away at that leg and after I’d had broken it I’d ankle lock him and rip his limb clean off after him involving his daughter. If he ends up seriously hurting McGregor — it would have been self inflicted. He doesn’t seem to realise that some words have very significant repercussions — one day he’ll learn that the brutal way and I’ll have not an ounce of sympathy for him.
That wouldnt work Paxi. Herb wouldn't allow Dustin to go for an ankle lock if he's already broken the thing with leg chops. The better scenario would be to chip away at the leg until he sees that Conor can't put weight on it, then he can go for the ankle lock and pull the thing clean off.
 

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The weird thing in all of this is that social media is full of posts downplaying McGregor's actions, I assume that it's kids who don't understand that this goes beyond the UFC. This lunatic is going to put himself and his friends in real trouble. I can't help but think about those rappers who are getting shot and killed because they think that they are the toughest.
 

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That wouldnt work Paxi. Herb wouldn't allow Dustin to go for an ankle lock if he's already broken the thing with leg chops. The better scenario would be to chip away at the leg until he sees that Conor can't put weight on it, then he can go for the ankle lock and pull the thing clean off.
Yeah that’s what I meant pretty much. It would never be allowed to happen of course.
 

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If we keep talking about him, we keep him relevant, same with the press. He's lost 3 of his last 4 fights, I think now. How many other fighters could still generate this much attention of another loss. Negative press still keeps him in the public eye.We need to stop giving him the publicity he wants (myself included), he's almost a pantomine villian character now.Even Dana White says Conor could fight the winner of the next title shot, he shouldn't be anywhere near that. The fact Poirer wanted to fight Conor instead of the title due to money, kind of devalues the title. Not his fault, you go after the money but Conor needs to step aside and let the next batch through. Make the title the thing everyone wants, not a fight against a washed up millionaire. 2 fights in a row his leg has been fcuked up. Go count your money Conor. Even Khabib ,nearly every interview he does lately, he references Conor. He had a good run, it's over now.....