What did Moyes require? His own backroom staff? Oh wait.
The Mourinho Thread: Should he stay or go? | Sacked
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Thanks for the stream of consciousness but I’m not sure if you’re agreeing or disagreeing with my point? If your point is that Moyes was a bad appointment then I agree. Or course, this doesn’t invalidate the point in the post you quoted.
I disagree because only the appointment was dysfunctional. If we had hired Mourinho like we should have done we wouldn’t have been the the miss that followed and no one would be talking about our bloody board. I mentioned Mata. We probably would have got Bale.
“Only the appointment was dysfunctional”? Then yeah, I disagree too.
I don’t see where else we went wrong which wasn’t the result of the managers poor decisions?
This is a brainless argument. I didn't say he wasn't a winner. I said he wasn't currently winning. Which he isn't. Of course he's failing at United. Everyone knows that. The standard for that isn't yesterday or this season. It's his entire tenure. It's been decent at times, poor at others, but all in all he's been a disappointment at Manchester United reflected by most of this forum wanting him out. The entire point was to highlight how irrelevant this whole winner rhetoric is and you've proven my point. LVG was a terrible manager for us despite being "a WINNER".
Pep had one mediocre season but has been a huge success at City. I wish he was disappointing for them but sadly he hasn't been. I certainly don't think his success has been inevitable because he's a winner or something. It's because he has managed his team superbly, something I wish a United manager post SAF would do.
No, the fact you don’t have a point is what means you don’t have a point. In essence, you’re victim blaming, eating up media nonsense, and just making shit up. That’s why you’re the odd one out. But I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt, and just say you’re not following what’s going on as closely as you should and are taking far too many bullshit stories at face value.
I hope people aren't falling for his new 'calm' demeanour. We've known him long enough to know his moods are all over the place.
Whatever happens this season with him, we need to move on. Technically we're a mess as a team, and I fear if we stay with him, we'll fall further behind.
Whatever happens this season with him, we need to move on. Technically we're a mess as a team, and I fear if we stay with him, we'll fall further behind.
If we win tonight I have a feeling the "No" voters will be up to about 20%.
It's like groundhog day on here. We go through the same cycle over and over. From everyone wanting the manager gone after some shit results, to us suddenly turning another corner after one or two decent results, to another false dawn when we put in a rotten performance and lose again. Rinse repeat.
He can start to be positive and try his best to avoid negatives things. Negatives things attract negatives things. Football and peoples are a part of life and the Universe. Then its to goes under the premises of life and Universe. The law of attraction. He started to complain about the transfer and was showing that he wasnt satisfy with Pogba by dropping him as vice captain.
At Chelsea last spell. The negatives things started with Hazard and the doctor. So its about to avoid the negatives vibes in the house and club. Because when you are having negatives vibes in the house, on a negative run and mood. Then the margins might go against you too. Compare to others top 6 clubs right now. Its there as much negatives stuff at theirs club?So if it will help much, it will help a bit to stay positives. Blame intern in the club will help not much either. So beside motivating his players. He shall try to stay positive as much as possible and dont move the blame on others when its goes wrong. Coz sometimes, it can start with the tactic and line up, before the ball get kick first time in the match.
But in the end. Mourinho most of the time had conflict with the players and in his previous club. Im not sure he has or will change the way he handle things. Because in the start of his third season with United. I think he hasnt change. He doesnt want to take a part of the blame. And if he blame the big stars with big ego. Like Pogba or Ronaldo. Who cant take it in public. Then the negatives wheel start rolling. In worse case the board have to choose beetween the manager or players. So that its point to avoid the negatives thing, before its start rolling. Its one of thing Mourinho and United can do, to get better result in the future, over a long period. Negatives things eill just follow negatives things.
At Chelsea last spell. The negatives things started with Hazard and the doctor. So its about to avoid the negatives vibes in the house and club. Because when you are having negatives vibes in the house, on a negative run and mood. Then the margins might go against you too. Compare to others top 6 clubs right now. Its there as much negatives stuff at theirs club?So if it will help much, it will help a bit to stay positives. Blame intern in the club will help not much either. So beside motivating his players. He shall try to stay positive as much as possible and dont move the blame on others when its goes wrong. Coz sometimes, it can start with the tactic and line up, before the ball get kick first time in the match.
But in the end. Mourinho most of the time had conflict with the players and in his previous club. Im not sure he has or will change the way he handle things. Because in the start of his third season with United. I think he hasnt change. He doesnt want to take a part of the blame. And if he blame the big stars with big ego. Like Pogba or Ronaldo. Who cant take it in public. Then the negatives wheel start rolling. In worse case the board have to choose beetween the manager or players. So that its point to avoid the negatives thing, before its start rolling. Its one of thing Mourinho and United can do, to get better result in the future, over a long period. Negatives things eill just follow negatives things.
You still have a lot to say on the topic but comment on people posting in the thread. It’s prerry ironic.
Anyone who still supports that coward should feck off with him when he leaves
Juventus play in the Italian league against teams that sit deep and try to contain them every week. Their domestic dominance is based around breaking down teams set up defensively. How in any good sense can you think that setting up in the way they’re used to playing against is the way to try and get a result against them?
Todays game is not decisive, nothing new here. Everyone expects us to lose, but it is getting embarrassing
Why does it seem like almost every manager we come up against outdoes Mourinho tactically?
You can't claim to love this club and then support a manager who is responsible for this shambles of a team. At this point only rival fans should be wanting him to stay.
Go go go go. Embarrassing set up at home in a big game. He never fecking learns.
Cancelo and Sandro will have an higher average position on the pitch than Lukaku, Martial and Rashford 
Yet again, pathetic
Yet again, pathetic
Attack ffs. Just give it a go. Tearing my hair out here.
I think it's more to do with Mourinho and his scared tactics.
I could set up against him, he just defends deep and doesn't press
Pretty conclusive
How can anyone support mourinho with the state of that team playing at moment. Brutal.
I mean, it’s the third season running we’re playing like this, and he’s still around. It’s clearly not a big deal for those who make the decisions.
I do agree with you, though, for what it’s worth. It’s absolutely embarrassing for a club of our stature to take this approach to big games at home. I ducking hate it.
People want more years of this lol. I feel like we are in Italy.
Don’t worry scousers like @WensleyMU will pop-up soon to say how we should keep Mourinho at all costs
He should have walked weeks ago. Nothing has changed that
His teams always had a well drilled, solid base and often, lacked flair. This team has neither. On the odd occasion we look like a threat we’re horribly exposed.
He seems incapable of working out how the better, younger managers play the game so he reverts to type.
He seems incapable of working out how the better, younger managers play the game so he reverts to type.
He is clueless
Attack attack...attack!
Fecking coward.
You can see that our lack of pressing is intentional.
Fecking coward.
You can see that our lack of pressing is intentional.
Is Grumpy Cat still our coach?
How anyone wants him to stay is beyond me. I suppose we did scrape a win at home against a Newcastle side beaten at home by Brighton the weekend.
Can someone for Mourinho actually explain what is going on here. Also how Jerome Boateng prevents this?
Second halves v Newcastle and Chelsea have given him a lifeline, but right now it's same old horrible coaching at show. We're unbelievably shite at passing.
Not good enough. 3 years and the team's still crap. It's the signings that irk me. Started of promising 1st year, been diabolical still. How rashford and Martial are our wingers still is beyond me.
Yes, Juve are a better side, so why not make it hard for them by pressing them to oblivion?
He absolutely disgusts me. Makes me sick to see us play like this, we are playing like a conference side on their big day out in the Cup. Even if we come back and win somehow there is absolutely no excuse for starting like this, we've had one pitiful header on goal in 45 mins and that's when we've been behind for 20 mins! Not one shot with our feet. Pathetic. Please just leave the club, have some dignity.
What does he think when he starts Mata+Matic+Pogba in midfield ? There is no energy and will to retrieve the ball there.
People that want him to stay are delusional - Rashord and Martial are playing as FBs for goodness sake!
We’re Stoke with Pogba in place of Charlie Adam.
How can anybody justify that?
How can anybody justify that?
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