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I enjoyed the majority of them. Roy Keane was my favourite. Didn’t think the MMA scouser one was the best.

Still would tune in to each new one when they are put out.
 

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Carragher did not like the black guy from the Athletic.
His calm style of speaking clashed with the rest of them chatting over each other. Carl Anka does have a tendency to sound pretentious though.
 

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New to this but blitzed half a dozen of them on Spotify the last few days, class. Keane and Paddy/Molly one my favs so far.
 

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It was funny seeing Carra trying to back track on his comments about Martinez.

They were asking him whether his view has changed about Martinez not being able to make it in a back 4 in the EPL.

Carra said it was jumping the gun to come to a conclusion that he’s a success after just 6 games. Joe responded with it was jumping the gun writing him off after 2 matches. :lol:
 

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The Amir Khan interview is very good, he comes across as a really nice guy
 

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The recent Scholes interview is quality. Scholes' recollection of his time for England is awesome and really makes you realise how overhyped England actually were in the 2000s (/literally for ever).
 

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That Video has ruined the channel for me.

Gary Neville a man of the people, except when someone gives him a bag full of money to promote how great this WC will be.
 

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The recent Scholes interview is quality. Scholes' recollection of his time for England is awesome and really makes you realise how overhyped England actually were in the 2000s (/literally for ever).
It was a great interview, but what makes you think they were overhyped? Scholes and Neville are humble and have the usual sarcastic English humor. Them saying we weren't anything special doesn't really mean anything.

An English squad with Rooney, Own, Beckham, Scholes, Gerrard, Lampard, J Cole, Terry, Ferdinand, Ashley Cole, Garry Neville is not overhyped for nothing. For better or worse, these are galactico level names, especially for a national team. I also think that English teams failures were a little exaggerated. They played some good football from time to time but had poor results at some of the worst times in national tournaments
 

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That Video has ruined the channel for me.

Gary Neville a man of the people, except when someone gives him a bag full of money to promote how great this WC will be.
If you watch the video it's not a promotion of Qatar, he's highlighting the problems with having the world cup there and asking questions that people have about Qatar
 

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It was a great interview, but what makes you think they were overhyped? Scholes and Neville are humble and have the usual sarcastic English humor. Them saying we weren't anything special doesn't really mean anything.

An English squad with Rooney, Own, Beckham, Scholes, Gerrard, Lampard, J Cole, Terry, Ferdinand, Ashley Cole, Garry Neville is not overhyped for nothing. For better or worse, these are galactico level names, especially for a national team. I also think that English teams failures were a little exaggerated. They played some good football from time to time but had poor results at some of the worst times in national tournaments
It was an average team with great players and they went into every world cup expecting to win based on very little. Scholes' point that the Brazil side they lost to in 2002 was an actual golden generation and Spain obviously had a proper golden generation a couple years later. Mentions France as well, but they were ironically shit in 02 and it wasn't till the following decade that they started converting their finals appearances. Basically every major country was better than the England side considered to be "golden". We didn't even qualify for Euro 08.

Just a rightly ridiculous moniker that Scholes ridicules at the end. "We even had to warm up indoors because it was so hot outside" before losing 2-1 to Brazil (found that quite funny).
 

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Personally I thought the Qatar piece was the best thing he's put out. He's acting as a facilitator of the piece, rather than a hard hitting journalist, in a similar vein to a Louis Theroux. Ask the questions that need to be asked, take the answers on face value, but trust your audience to know the nuances of the expressions and mannerisms in the replies and use silences and pauses to underline the true meaning. That way, you can release the content and it not be so offensive to the country and the interviewees that it will never see the light of day. I much prefer this style to someone going in all guns blazing, interrupting people to get answers. You aren't even gonna get in the room for an interview if that's the style you adopt.
 

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Personally I thought the Qatar piece was the best thing he's put out. He's acting as a facilitator of the piece, rather than a hard hitting journalist, in a similar vein to a Louis Theroux. Ask the questions that need to be asked, take the answers on face value, but trust your audience to know the nuances of the expressions and mannerisms in the replies and use silences and pauses to underline the true meaning. That way, you can release the content and it not be so offensive to the country and the interviewees that it will never see the light of day. I much prefer this style to someone going in all guns blazing, interrupting people to get answers. You aren't even gonna get in the room for an interview if that's the style you adopt.
I'd like a "Gary's weird weekends". Imagine "Gary does porn"
 

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Tbh it is a pure propaganda, just that Gary is too dim to notice.

We live in a very stupid world.
 

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Tbh it is a pure propaganda, just that Gary is too dim to notice.

We live in a very stupid world.
I don't know, I mean for a start quite obviously questions the "3 deaths" BS - and in general is critical of the worker conditions.

I agree with @Adamsk7 ... it's a good piece that asks the right questions in the right way. If he went in two-footed he wouldn't get anywhere. As it is, it gives a good impression of what a fan could expect if they're going to Qatar and shines a light on all the issues.
 

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I don't know, I mean for a start quite obviously questions the "3 deaths" BS - and in general is critical of the worker conditions.

I agree with @Adamsk7 ... it's a good piece that asks the right questions in the right way. If he went in two-footed he wouldn't get anywhere. As it is, it gives a good impression of what a fan could expect if they're going to Qatar and shines a light on all the issues.
Neville thinks “dialogue”(Whatever that means)is somehow doing to convince the monarchy to give up its power and bring out the pride flags.

Gary is nice bloke, he would never go two footed into these places. He really is the let’s all just be friends type of person, it’s partly why he got to the gig. The documentary gave off the impressive that ok Dubai might not be perfect but at least there’s some dialogue, some progressive and hey somethings they just do different over there and we should respect that because of “cultural norms”.

So yeah I didn’t think it was great.
 
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It was an average team with great players and they went into every world cup expecting to win based on very little. Scholes' point that the Brazil side they lost to in 2002 was an actual golden generation and Spain obviously had a proper golden generation a couple years later. Mentions France as well, but they were ironically shit in 02 and it wasn't till the following decade that they started converting their finals appearances. Basically every major country was better than the England side considered to be "golden". We didn't even qualify for Euro 08.

Just a rightly ridiculous moniker that Scholes ridicules at the end. "We even had to warm up indoors because it was so hot outside" before losing 2-1 to Brazil (found that quite funny).
That's nonsense.

The Brazil team is also remembered as an iconic team. Talents like Ronalindho, Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Kaka, R.Carlos etc come once in a generation so it's no shame if the English team was less talented or force than that. France has always had top players in almost every position for the most part since decades but after Zidane and Viera retired, they weren't that much better than the English.

To say every major country was better than England is just wrong. Scholes is being humble but Germany, Spain, Italy, Argentina did not have teams as good as the English.

They were expected to win world cups based on their talent and track record. Each time they'd go out was on penalties or being outplayed on the day against a better team. The team underachieved in knockout tournaments, and its still talked about today but it will always be remembered as Englands golden generation.
 

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It is so frustrating that this has given right-wing commentators something to leap on to discredit Gary's legitimate criticisms of the state of things in the UK. Even if the documentary was a sell-out (it's not really), that does not make his criticisms of the Tories any less true, but it is how the media sweep things under the carpet here.
 

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That Video has ruined the channel for me.

Gary Neville a man of the people, except when someone gives him a bag full of money to promote how great this WC will be.
Did you watch the video? He spent half of the time questioning hosts about all of the major concerns people have had - workers living conditions/rights, treatment of LGBTQ fans, alcohol... what exactly should he have done differently in your opinion?

In the end, he is a football presenter, not a political or investigative journalist, so of course he will focus a bit on the football side of thing, but he absolutely pressed them on key issues and didn't just let them whitewash things.
 

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Did you watch the video? He spent half of the time questioning hosts about all of the major concerns people have had - workers living conditions/rights, treatment of LGBTQ fans, alcohol... what exactly should he have done differently in your opinion?

In the end, he is a football presenter, not a political or investigative journalist, so of course he will focus a bit on the football side of thing, but he absolutely pressed them on key issues and didn't just let them whitewash things.
so you bought the propaganda then I see, seriously take 30 mins out of your day and go watch the other video that is on here a few posts down and that explains it all clearly.
 

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so you bought the propaganda then I see, seriously take 30 mins out of your day and go watch the other video that is on here a few posts down and that explains it all clearly.
If it was propaganda, then it wasn't very good. My opinion of Qatar is definitely not any better, and if anything even worse than before watching the video, especially with him showing the living conditions of the workers.
 

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Filmed an episode with Virgil van Dijk today. ‘Questions’ teaser video out next week with the full episode out the following one. Should be worth a watch - I find the current player episodes very interesting.
 

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Love to see more non-footballers ones. Someone like Lewis Hamilton or Federer would be great.