What a bellend.
Typical
The overwhelming number of negative articles in the media
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The problem is that it may lead to the media doubling down and not actually solve the issue. Like others have said United fans need to pick apart the facts and not be so influenced by the media. We need to think for ourselves and not be so easily swayed because the negative articles will keep coming.
If we win the league this year, it will be discredited that it was due to covid or Liverpool's injuries and if we have a slow start the following season United fans will again be influenced by it and discredit it too.
OK so as we know, content involving us is the most profitable. Also on social media you get more responses online and engagement from creating something the vast majority will disagree with and want to argue against. We can then gather in our bubbles ( like the 'Caf) and share this thing we disagree with and that sets the rest of us visiting their pages to give them a good telling to. So riling the largest fanbase in sport to engage is primary policy for lots of news sites. Now add into that the push of the likes of City to basically bribe the media into positive only content with regards to them and whitewash the owners online and finally the amount of ex-scouser's or scouse loving fanboys in the media it surprises me there's anything positive said about us whatsoever.
Seeing is believing my friend. I was extremely pissed of at our summer business like a lot of people but when you I stepped back and took it in I've become more positive and excited.
Sports fans are a fickle bunch and we have been an inconsistent mess so there will always be complaints, it's inevitable. If Ole gets us firing on a weekly basis the fan's optimism will follow.
Yeah I don't know what we expect. Papers are looking to generate money via ad revenue so allude to a negative story about a big club and have the fans flocking to see it.
Journalists have to be knee jerk and either tap into the fears of the fans (United) or feed the conspiracy of the fans (Liverpool).
The media in football and most fans are obsessed with what managers had done previously, the guy who just won the treble at Bayern his managerial track record before Bayern was rubbish as was Joachim Low's and he won the world cup, sometimes its about being in the right situation, there are very few managers these days that can put in place a system with players that are not of the correct quality to carry it out.
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Thing is, like Arsenal, Barcelona, Real Madrid or any big enough team with lots of fans and media coverage can speak to, that is hard to control simply due to the sheer attention and size of the fanbase. There are always going to be some reactionaries in the fanbase. When Fergie was winning the league every season, there were still people who wanted him gone so that we could "modernise". There were others who constantly questioned our questions and whether were capable of competing every season. You can legitmately make the case that at the start of the majority of the season before we won league titles, we were viewed as underdogs by the press. For example 2006- 2011, every summer the press were always talking about how good Chelsea would be, from 01-05 the same thing happened with Arsenal. What's even more baffling in that time period is how the media sold Arsenal as being more aesthetically pleasing to watch than we were. How they had so much flair due to the amount of French names they had in the team, whilst diminishing the level of skill and technique of players like Scholes, Giggs, Keane and Yorke.
It's always been like this.
That is why our fans are supposed to be the managers number one supporters when he is getting things right like Ole has. The problem at United is this. Our fans were so used to success that despite our decline prior to Ole coming, they are finding it difficult to match our rebuilding realities to their expectations. They expect the club to immediately return to glory, not fully realizing how far back we actually went.
Even when it comes to issues of inconsistency or lack of depth, its becoming really clear how hard it is for our fans to comprehend having issues like these and why these issues would lead to us losing and drawing games. For example, last season we had a lot of injuries and were poorly staffed in terms of depth, and unlike SAF years where you could use Ole, Butt, Brown, Nani, Park, Fletcher, O'shea or the like to cover, we were playing Lingard, James and Pereira...which would explain the lack of results. We are getting there and the signs since the beginning of January are all pointing to that direction, the only question is whether our fans can temper their impatience to gain a better understanding of the situation.
Unless it's the NBA, American football, MLB, MMA/UFC.....then ESPN is shit. Should never be used as a decent source for any content related to football/soccer. Just look at the times they put on any content and the types of fecking retread 'pundits' they use.
This week there has been an overwhelming number of positive articles in the media.
Almost as though the key to fighting back against this dreadful ABU bias is winning a few games of football. Crazy, right?
Almost as though the key to fighting back against this dreadful ABU bias is winning a few games of football. Crazy, right?
Great post and I didn't see it until the latest bumps.
And completely spot on. What bothers me is that if it's bad for my mental health (and it is - the negativity on the radio, the papers and in Redcafe from our own fans!) then how bad could it be for anyone associated with Manchester United coming here?
And on the back of another fantastic result, I've heard the best part of NOTHING giving Solskjaer any credit from anyone in the media compared with directly after the Spurs result. It was all about Rashford and maybe rightly so but that tactical masterclass goes completely unrecognised. And you just know people on this forum are waiting for us to have a bad result against Arsenal or whoever.
At what point does Solskjaer become accepted as a Manchester United manager? Title win? CL win? I think that's why he puts out such strong teams in the cups you know, because he probably is well aware that even if he came second with a CL final people would be questioning whether he's good enough, but an FA cup or League cup win at least stops the Mourinho comparisons.
Have there???? Where?
I'm still seeing SHIT like this:
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/foo...olskjaer-Liverpool-John-Barnes-Premier-League
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/so...e-again-after-clever-squad-rotation-1.4394139
https://www.football365.com/news/mailbox-solskjaer-man-utd-klopp-liverpool-guardiola-man-city
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...kjaer-making-of-the-manager-manchester-united
https://www.football365.com/news/jamie-carragher-admires-man-utd-ole-gunnar-solskjaer
Here you go.
I was about to post similar. Seems someone has a book to sell though.
I’d say he’s well chuffed about the recent turnaround. Heard him talking on a podcast about his deal with the publisher. He got a hefty bonus when we qualified for the Champion’s League!
https://africa.espn.com/football/ma...ost-100-gamesbut-theres-no-clear-plan-forward
"No obvious plan
After 99 games, we still don't know Solskjaer's plan to take United back to the top. He has used a 4-3-3 formation, played with three at the back and deployed a diamond in midfield, but it seems as though he is still trying to work out what best suits his players. It's difficult to imagine the likes of Pep Guardiola, Jurgen Klopp, Mourinho or Mauricio Pochettino still not knowing their best approach after 99 games in charge, but whenever United play, it is a guessing game as to how they will line up.
Certainty is the only way to success, but confusion still reigns under Solskjaer."
I would've thought tactical flexibility is a good thing.
"No obvious plan
After 99 games, we still don't know Solskjaer's plan to take United back to the top. He has used a 4-3-3 formation, played with three at the back and deployed a diamond in midfield, but it seems as though he is still trying to work out what best suits his players. It's difficult to imagine the likes of Pep Guardiola, Jurgen Klopp, Mourinho or Mauricio Pochettino still not knowing their best approach after 99 games in charge, but whenever United play, it is a guessing game as to how they will line up.
Certainty is the only way to success, but confusion still reigns under Solskjaer."
I would've thought tactical flexibility is a good thing.
To be fair like, if you have to start digging as far as the Irish times, football365 and punters like Jamie Jackson to find positive things then I'd say my point still stands they're maybe tier 5 media entities at best. The Guardian, to be fair to it, is generally a reasonably unbiased newspaper when it comes to sport.
But I'll leave it at that.
there are lots of things you could criticise United for, and the manger - most I wouldn’t agree with anyway, but this is ridiculous. Like you say, flexibility and being able to change your system is a positive.
are we seriously saying to be a good manager you need to be rigid in your approach. I’m sure Klopp plays different systems and variants of his 11?
This is what happens when you're the biggest around. People wanna talk about you.
Never ignored .
Never ignored .
That would make sense if initial negativity was derived from poor results as opposed to transfer second guessing and everyone feeling they were fit to ‘structure’ Manchester United.
As far as winning football matches go, we had won nearly as many as anyone in 2020 by the time the nonsense was in full swing, and enough of them to finish with a respectable position last season.
Maybe he doesn't want bulls**rs to know.
Yep, that was a waste of a listen.What a bellend.
Honestly, the transfer window just gone was the absolute worst, and I’d like to think a fair few on here will hang their heads a but on reflection. I had to take a week/week and a half off after deadline day, and even now, my Redcafe interaction has lessened significantly. People acting like spoilt brats, nothing is ever good enough, it was exhausting.
And I totally agree on Ole too. Coming off our previous ‘terrible transfer window’ last summer, he led us to third with injuries that are often conveniently edited from consideration in any report card too. Beaten all the top sides bar Liverpool, and very unlucky to not beat Liverpool, with them getting a late equaliser at OT, and us being severely hampered by injuries in both games.
I think the club are reluctant to reset in a hurry, as we’ve done that a few times already to little avail. I’m certainly behind him for now, snd behind the group in general. I don’t think our players are as bad as implied, and I think Ole will win trophies with us in time.
On the whole, the moaning of the last transfer window, which, if we’re being honest, was just poorly disguised rage at not buying Jadon Sancho for a British record fee - and the constant uninformed bollocks about the clubs structure piss me off no end.
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Always wondered what mainaldo looked like.
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Not as young or feminine as I expected.
Funny how the media have barely mentioned that we set up a new club record of 10 successive away wins, when we won in Paris recently. Something Ferguson never achieved, something Busby never achieved. But let's ignore it, as their agenda doesn't include any positive reporting on Solskjaer.
Everything we do begets news, whether we win or lose.
Great posts @Rozay
I tried fighting against the tide but gave up quickly in September.
The amount of toxicity fueled by United fans in that period was crazy to say the least.
I tried fighting against the tide but gave up quickly in September.
The amount of toxicity fueled by United fans in that period was crazy to say the least.
Stopped reading most online football news these days bar here. Got awfully fed up of the Liverpool jizz fest and the United bashing over the last 2 to 3 years.
Then the bizarre praising of Arteta and Lampard from some quarters.
Then the bizarre praising of Arteta and Lampard from some quarters.
No wonder. Just look at people lapping it up in here.
This. Couldn’t have said it better myself. I was disappointed not to get a big name but understood the financial risk of opening our purse strings in such an unpredictable economy.
We've gone from perennial title winners with Ferguson to perennial also-rans after him.
The media are totally correct to be negative, we've for a long time been a shit-show, on and off the pitch.
Fans should be less worried about neutrals correctly laughing at us and more concerned with voicing their frustrations - not abuse, personal attacks or throwing tantrums - at players not trying hard enough, coaching staff if they appear useless, our inept board and Woodward for pissing money away without a plan.
Get angry at the people who stand in the way of the club being successful, not outsiders that write articles for clicks.
The media are totally correct to be negative, we've for a long time been a shit-show, on and off the pitch.
Fans should be less worried about neutrals correctly laughing at us and more concerned with voicing their frustrations - not abuse, personal attacks or throwing tantrums - at players not trying hard enough, coaching staff if they appear useless, our inept board and Woodward for pissing money away without a plan.
Get angry at the people who stand in the way of the club being successful, not outsiders that write articles for clicks.
Idiot.
If he thinks anyone can't see the back handed insults, he's as stupid as his writing is sh!t
If he thinks anyone can't see the back handed insults, he's as stupid as his writing is sh!t
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What an arsehole.
This is hilarious. Couldn’t sound more bitter if he tried.His precious handler Jose has been turned over twice this week.
Better start slagging Ole off to deflect the attention.
We controlled 1 game out of 13 this season? I've wasted 4 months watching a different season then.
We need to aspire to be where the all controlling City, Chelsea, Spurs and Arsenal are eh Duncan?
On a serious note, is he the eejit who called Arteta elite or are all journos bitter and stupid?
We need to aspire to be where the all controlling City, Chelsea, Spurs and Arsenal are eh Duncan?
On a serious note, is he the eejit who called Arteta elite or are all journos bitter and stupid?
This interview with Micah Richards on the BBC website is a positive take on our progress, prospects, Ole and the team.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55388045
I recommend reading it because it’s fair and balanced. I haven’t been a big Ole fan so far because I think he can be naive sometimes and obstinate on other occasions, to the detriment of the team.
However, you cannot deny we are the PL form team currently and in fairness to him, he has been saying that we were just starting slowly this season. I hope my doubts are proved wrong and the reasons for optimism in Richards’ interview hold good.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55388045
I recommend reading it because it’s fair and balanced. I haven’t been a big Ole fan so far because I think he can be naive sometimes and obstinate on other occasions, to the detriment of the team.
However, you cannot deny we are the PL form team currently and in fairness to him, he has been saying that we were just starting slowly this season. I hope my doubts are proved wrong and the reasons for optimism in Richards’ interview hold good.
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He is half Chelsea fan, half ABU.
It's funny how he never even acknowledges all the shit he talks.
I can't stand hypocrites.