Depends on who's funding it. If the Saudi talk is true, and I don't doubt it is, they can go well beyond what would be reasonable under normal circumstances.
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Ha! Anything is possible in boxing. Would be an easy out for a massive payday whilst buying Wilder a good amount of time to try and put some kind of plan together. Hesitant to say coaching/training for a guy so late into boxing and so old, tbh.
I really have reservations about Usyk at these weights until he proves he can take shots off a HW or bother them with his own. There's a number of guys at this weight who will just barrel into him showing no respect and willing to trade knowing they'll do more damage than he can*. He's obviously a better boxer than most, but how far will technique get you when you're giving up 28lb+ and have to sacrifice your own mobility to try and bridge the gap.
Ruiz, Whyte, Takam, Chisora would all more than fancy their chances against him.
vs. Joshua it's a curious contest, but still dependent on Usyk being able to withstand power and size the likes of which he's never felt before.
*until proven otherwise.
That was a classic then he just wore flip flops for about a month after. Also how boring was that fightI don't watch much boxing but Wilder's excuses has made me laugh so much. fecking pathetic, he is getting torn apart on Instagram.
Best comment so far "Dresses like Sauron, expects to win a fight over a ring"
Best comment so far "Dresses like Sauron, expects to win a fight over a ring"
feck me. He's really dropping the ball here.
He had to, that ball weighed in excess of 40 pounds.
What do you make of WBOs regulations that make him the automatic mandatory when he moved up weight? I get it in some ways; you don't want someone of his caliber having to fight his way up the ranks, but there are bigger and better fights to be had, and this just gets in the way. It would be nice to see him face off against the likes of Parker and Ruiz before he gets his shot at Joshua (or Fury if he beats him).
I don't see Joshua ever fighting Fury . Not now not next year not 2022 . Never
He's tried to fight Fury in the past for the offer to be rejected. No reason why he wouldn't again.
I think most rules made by the organizations are a joke and with so many weight classes it seems unnecessary as fighters move up all the time but a guy like him who became undisputed in a red hot division I think has earned the right but I think a unification, especially an undisputed should always be allowed to step aside a mandatory.
Not sure how sincere the "offers" have been. The politics is always going to be an issue but I believe both men want to face each other and will find a way. There's too much money, pride, legacy and bragging rights.
money talks, it will happen some day
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There’s more...this is getting really embarrassing for Wilder. His lies are blowing up in his face. Even the suit designer said it was a 20 lbs pound so h lies on that too.
This excuse is worse than Haye’s little toe
It’s the craziest excuse I’ve ever heard.
Didn't Wilder say he punched the mascot really hard because he didn't think there was a real man in there?
He's got form
Oh yeah I’d forgot about that. He’s not the brightest bulb.Didn't Wilder say he punched the mascot really hard because he didn't think there was a real man in there?
He's got form
I think he is still in shock
Apparently the fight got 800,000-850,000 ppv's up from 325,000 for the first encounter.
Imagine your humiliation being brought to a whole new audience who've not had any interest in you before, and post-fight, you've put up the kind of excuse that makes you a worldwide meme.
Wilder taking on a third fight, and potentially getting absolutely destroyed again would be the kind of embarrassment and fall from grace a man like him cannot come back from as any kind of 'celebrity' the American sports shows have been absolutely tearing the guy to pieces for getting beaten up in such a fashion - and that was before the weighted outfit excuse.
The guy has some serious thinking to do on his next move in terms of activating the clause. The money he'll make is, on top of what he's already got, enough to set him and generations of his lineage up for life, but it will come with a consequence, and he, as a proud man and someone who prides himself on being a fighter (not a boxer), will have to measure that up against the extra money. Becoming a living meme and joke for the next few years, if not all-time, is one hell of a fall from grace from where he's been, via whatever means (padded stats, top fighter avoidance), and something to factor into his decision (from his own POV, not that of a layman who goes: 'wow! $20m!') that, too, with the potential of having the difference between he and Fury indelibly stamped in his consciousness, should he take another absolute whooping.
Trying to think from his perspective, it seems to be a tough call to make that puts everything on the line for him. Would give him kudos for opting in if he is considering all of the above.
Imagine your humiliation being brought to a whole new audience who've not had any interest in you before, and post-fight, you've put up the kind of excuse that makes you a worldwide meme.
Wilder taking on a third fight, and potentially getting absolutely destroyed again would be the kind of embarrassment and fall from grace a man like him cannot come back from as any kind of 'celebrity' the American sports shows have been absolutely tearing the guy to pieces for getting beaten up in such a fashion - and that was before the weighted outfit excuse.
The guy has some serious thinking to do on his next move in terms of activating the clause. The money he'll make is, on top of what he's already got, enough to set him and generations of his lineage up for life, but it will come with a consequence, and he, as a proud man and someone who prides himself on being a fighter (not a boxer), will have to measure that up against the extra money. Becoming a living meme and joke for the next few years, if not all-time, is one hell of a fall from grace from where he's been, via whatever means (padded stats, top fighter avoidance), and something to factor into his decision (from his own POV, not that of a layman who goes: 'wow! $20m!') that, too, with the potential of having the difference between he and Fury indelibly stamped in his consciousness, should he take another absolute whooping.
Trying to think from his perspective, it seems to be a tough call to make that puts everything on the line for him. Would give him kudos for opting in if he is considering all of the above.
I mean his goal is to unify the belts and with Wilder out the picture and no longer able to duck AJ, this has to happen. Fury will take that fight and I’m sure AJ would and it’ll be probably the most cash lucrative heavyweight fight ever.
I've no doubt Fury would take it and I'm sure AJ would but I doubt Hearn wants it.
It won't be the first major fight that never happens and it seems to happen too often now there's more than one belt .
Hearn is like a guy that always wants one more fight before the big one
I think it's obvious he was never going to be a good sport when he lost. He made too many excuses about the "draw" he was gifted. It's why he's surrounded by yes men and it's why he's never improved. He thinks he's perfect already.
I think he has a concussion also and that's why he can't stop embarrassing himself further. If he'd left it at the embarrassing excuses in the ring it wouldn't be so bad. He's now boxing's biggest meme and Broner is in boxing so that's a helluva achievement.
Hearn will milk Joshua for all he’s worth. He’ll line up a whole bunch of money makers and tease a Fury fight for years.
Fury isn’t the most reliable fella. I can’t see Hearn making the fight until Fury has gone off the rails again.
Really hope I’m wrong obviously.
Josh Taylor has hired Ben Davison as head trainer. Good to see Davison get another big job. Taylor has a mandatory on May 2nd against Apinun Khongsong and I think Jack Catterral is due as mandatory after that and has said he won’t step aside. I’m assuming the Taylor-Ramirez fight will marinate this year and come together early next.
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Good list (as usual) mate.
Bit surprised that you didn’t include Teofimo in the cusp guys though. Win or lose he’ll give Loma fits when they face off.
I've been thinking on this too. I don't think he has a choice but to take the fight. Not taking it is the same as conceding that he can't beat him, and who knows when he'd next get a fight for any of the titles. He could find himself irrelevant in the division very quickly, and hes always got a chance of catching anyone and putting them away. Might as well roll the dice and take him on.
I think Teofimo will inevitably find his way on the list one day. I just think Lomachenko will be able to outbox him with something to spare. I think he’s going to be left waiting on counters that Loma knows too much to leave him.
While I agree that Loma will most likely win the fight I can see Teo leaving enough of a mark to enhance his rep before moving up to great things later..
One too many shots to the head for that lad.
That's some WWF type bollocks.
You can't talk like that after getting absolutely battered. Just be normal, you melt.
You can't talk like that after getting absolutely battered. Just be normal, you melt.