Quite a big swing in weights since their last Flight with AJ 11 pound heavier and Franklin nearly 2 stone lighter when he leaves at to White
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This is a quality fight, like both guys but favour Inoue as he has the power as an equaliser.
Also a big positive for AJ is Derrick James who's an excellent trainer. He's levels above anyone who has coached Joshua. He's the best in the business by a landslide. Especially in observing Spence who started boxing late at 17 he's the most fundamentally sound fighter at welterweight. He has a consistent jab, lateral movement, picks his shots, pivots well, can fight off the back foot (shown vs Porter). It's almost unheard of for a fighter to exhibit that level of completeness having missed the teething period despite him having a golden gloves. Charlo (Mel) is also another great example very technical fighter but like Spence can step on the gas if they identify an opportunity.
I think Joshua fits this profile of trainer but just has to learn when it's appropriate to box in spots and then when he has to up the intensity. Something hopefully he learns from James that is a typical characteristic of his stable they know how to go up through the gears progressively as the fight moves on. It's a strong testament to the conditioning they are doing in Texas.
I think Joshua fits this profile of trainer but just has to learn when it's appropriate to box in spots and then when he has to up the intensity. Something hopefully he learns from James that is a typical characteristic of his stable they know how to go up through the gears progressively as the fight moves on. It's a strong testament to the conditioning they are doing in Texas.
If he can teach AJ when to box and when to bang, that’d go a long way to sorting him out
Harlem Eubank is fecking dreadful.
Channel 5 fight on now
Channel 5 fight on now
This Barnum circus >>> Klitschkos’ one-way-sludgefest era
I think Franklin will win tonight.
Joshua mentality just isn't there to handle the pressure in an individual sport like boxing. His style has changed since Ruiz and he's had two damaging losses since.
You can tell he bought into his own hype and seemed very insecure in interviews with a fake persona when he was unbeaten. The Ruiz fight rocked him massively, he was almost begging the ref to stop it. He lost to Usyk the first fight but he thought it was him that lost the fight rather than Usyk that won it. Second fight, he seemed confident that his game plan would work and then absolutely lost it when he lost the fight, his post fight antics were terrible. Now his persona has changed and it's coming across that way into interviews.
When he beat Klit & Whyte, he probably thought he would fight 1-2 times a year, win every belt and every fight and retire unbeaten. now he's not going to achieve that and he's not top dog I think he struggles to comprehend that. He also struggles against smaller guys and Franklin can cause him trouble.
The boxing casuals have totally written of Franklin too saying he's just a bum and that he's the equivalent of opponent as one of AJ's earlier fights. He's actually a very decent fighter and would give any of the top heavyweights a decent fight. You only have to watch the Whyte to see that.
Joshua mentality just isn't there to handle the pressure in an individual sport like boxing. His style has changed since Ruiz and he's had two damaging losses since.
You can tell he bought into his own hype and seemed very insecure in interviews with a fake persona when he was unbeaten. The Ruiz fight rocked him massively, he was almost begging the ref to stop it. He lost to Usyk the first fight but he thought it was him that lost the fight rather than Usyk that won it. Second fight, he seemed confident that his game plan would work and then absolutely lost it when he lost the fight, his post fight antics were terrible. Now his persona has changed and it's coming across that way into interviews.
When he beat Klit & Whyte, he probably thought he would fight 1-2 times a year, win every belt and every fight and retire unbeaten. now he's not going to achieve that and he's not top dog I think he struggles to comprehend that. He also struggles against smaller guys and Franklin can cause him trouble.
The boxing casuals have totally written of Franklin too saying he's just a bum and that he's the equivalent of opponent as one of AJ's earlier fights. He's actually a very decent fighter and would give any of the top heavyweights a decent fight. You only have to watch the Whyte to see that.
Money to be made if you think Franklin has a decent shot, he’s 1/8
Joshua’s downfall was trying be a boxer instead of using his biggest asset, heavy hands. I think it was Frampton who wrote about it recently, he just needs to get back to what he was before and stop trying to prove he’s some marvellous boxer, he isn’t, never looks good when he does it, just start throwing bombs again.
New trainer was essential, heavier weight again essential, if he can’t win this one then he’s done.
New trainer was essential, heavier weight again essential, if he can’t win this one then he’s done.
It will be interesting to see how the fight pans out if Joshua can’t get rid of Franklin early. Franklin looked to have decent hand speed and feet against Whyte and has dropped 20lb since then.
I have no issue with this fight for Joshua coming off 2 losses and a longish layoff but I think it’s nailed on Hearn will try and make the Whyte fight in the summer. No need to fight both IMO.
I have no issue with this fight for Joshua coming off 2 losses and a longish layoff but I think it’s nailed on Hearn will try and make the Whyte fight in the summer. No need to fight both IMO.
This Joshua narrative isn't making any sense. Ostensibly, the last fight he had was the best performance of his career in terms of technical boxing, output and also heart. It's just that he came up against a far superior technician with more know-how, stamina/output and heart. He'll only have that again if he matches up with Fury.
Rounding on Joshua for what he's not is rooted in how he's come up, but picking at that right now, at the time he's shown the most growth and development in his entire career, is very odd.
I should also add, from Joshua's camp, why the hell have they had him put on all that weight and lose the tank he'd only just developed at a weight that is far better for him? If he doesn't get control of the fight and is forced to work at a higher output than all that mass can handle, he'll be gassed inside 6, as was his previous M.O. and something he needed to get away from in the first place. It'll be immaterial if he gets the job done early, but if not, it'll be something that has the potential to cost him the fight.
Rounding on Joshua for what he's not is rooted in how he's come up, but picking at that right now, at the time he's shown the most growth and development in his entire career, is very odd.
I should also add, from Joshua's camp, why the hell have they had him put on all that weight and lose the tank he'd only just developed at a weight that is far better for him? If he doesn't get control of the fight and is forced to work at a higher output than all that mass can handle, he'll be gassed inside 6, as was his previous M.O. and something he needed to get away from in the first place. It'll be immaterial if he gets the job done early, but if not, it'll be something that has the potential to cost him the fight.
Anyone know what the cheapest way to watch this fight is?
Can I sign up to the 9.99 dazn monthly subscription and cancel before the end of the month?
Cba paying anymore to watch Joshua and struggling to find a reliable channel.
Can I sign up to the 9.99 dazn monthly subscription and cancel before the end of the month?
Cba paying anymore to watch Joshua and struggling to find a reliable channel.
Looks like you need to pay £19.99 for a monthly sub, £9.99 is monthly if you commit for a year.
Cheers. Yeah it seems the 9.99 is a 12 month commitment.
feck paying 19.99 to watch it. I'm not even that fussed about it but one of my inlaws wants to watch it.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/65148580
A good read. Scotland’s 1st ever undisputed world champion & arguably greatest ever Scottish boxer.
Sadly passed away earlier today. R.I.P.
A good read. Scotland’s 1st ever undisputed world champion & arguably greatest ever Scottish boxer.
Sadly passed away earlier today. R.I.P.
Dazn used to be 2 quid, it's 20 quid now, greedy bastards
What time is AJs fight?
It's the next fight. Every chance they piss about until at least the top of the hour even if this one finishes now though, of course.
10:40 I read.
That stoppage was bollocks
Howard Foster is an absolute shite referee.
Boxing needs to get a grip. Why do we have to wait so long.
Good call.Who is this wack rapper
Grating me that the music is out of time. Like it’s half a second ahead in his earpiece. Sounded fecking awful.
AJ is such a sausage.
Very conservative estimate in the end.
Not as much as this fecking whopper American MC cnut. "ARE YOU READY, I SAID ARE YOU READY?"
K Trap. Poor AJ can only get b lister rappers now.
Lets go Joshua
Even Michael Buffer can't be arsed to show up for this fight.
Still feels like Joshua is fighting within himself. He has to throw more over the rounds very gun shy.
Agreed. He needs to move more as well, quite sluggish so far.
Feel like it's been like that for a number of fights at this point.
AJ seems to struggle with shorter fat guys.
Bellew has it as a shut out for AJ so far...
To be fair, probably what the judges have as well. Mainly because boxing is bent and the cash cow is always going to get the decision.
The actual fight has been 50/50 though.
I think it is Joshua has the cleaner work the issue is there still a feeling he has more to offer. I think the only round that goes to Franklin is the first one.
Joshua looks very stiff and has this glazed, almost bewildered look about him. His confidence is shot. Even if he comes through this round I don’t feel he has enough to mix it with the best.
No wonder Joshua has swerved Fury, Fury would fecking batter this Watford Bellend.