The RedCafe Boxing Thread

Think AJ would spark Dubois out. It's funny. AJ has gone from nothing to something again within the space of a few months. Just shows how fickle boxing can be and how because we were bereft of the big fantasy fights, most of the discussion has been based on those possible fantasy fights around who's the best.
 
Ennis-Crowley off due to a lingering eye problem for the latter.

Hopefully Matchroom manage to keep the show on - 5.5 weeks notice should usually give you enough time to find an opponent, but it's not like people were queuing up to fight Boots beforehand.

IBF top 15 is pretty sparce for options - best guess is Alexis Rocha, Gabriel Valenzuela or David Avanesyan.
 
pocco said:
Dubois is B or C level at best. Now that AJ has a bit of confidence and is less gun shy, he should beat him comfortably. Dubois doesn't have the nous to exploit him, but obviously always has a punchers chance.
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Agreed. AJ will catch him a few times
 
Decent night of boxing tonight. Whittaker fights again - should win easily but let's see if he sticks to his over the top showboating.

Then a rematch of CBS and Riakorphe. Last time they fought Riakorphe win by split decision but that was back in 2019 and CBS has won a world title since then and has probably the better resume since then. He's been in some tough fights though and I think that may have an impact in this fight. I expect Riakorphe to win by stoppage this time.

Gervonta Davis fighting over in the US as well against Frank Martin. Frank Martin is a game fighter who'd give anyone a decent fight but he's a level below the elite and Davis should win comfortably - most likely be stoppage with his power. Benavidez v Gvodzyk is another fight too which should be a decent watch - he goes under the radar Benavidez but he's an elite fighter.
 
Arenyeka managed to stay till the end, gotta give it to him defensively, but nothing there offensively.

Whittaker has a lot of ground to cover in his development, and his lack of punch power is an issue
 
Riakporhe has poor conditioning. Can't seem to sustain attacks and always smothering his own work by clinching after he lands
 
Only gave Riakporhe three rounds and felt I was generous in doing so. Some of those scorecards were crazy, especially with the point taken off.
 
He was up on the scorecards but Davis was just biding his time. Picked it up big time in the later rounds and now just got the KO
 
Glorio said:
Arenyeka managed to stay till the end, gotta give it to him defensively, but nothing there offensively.

Whittaker has a lot of ground to cover in his development, and his lack of punch power is an issue
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Was coming in to say that. He's feather-fisted and he gets caught a lot. He doesn't have bombs in his hands to make every awkward angle shot a possible fight ender like a Nas or RJJ.

Don't see him going to the top and it looks like a matter of time before he gets sparked clean out.
 
Fortitude said:
Was coming in to say that. He's feather-fisted and he gets caught a lot. He doesn't have bombs in his hands to make every awkward angle shot a possible fight ender like a Nas or RJJ.

Don't see him going to the top and it looks like a matter of time before he gets sparked clean out.
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Yeah said the same last night. Naz could end fights when he wanted to - especially against the journeyman/lower ranked fighters. Whittaker doesn't have that power to do so, he's very talented and some of the angles and combinations he throws are exceptional but I don't think his style will translate to taking on the top guys with his lack of power.
 
SambaBoy said:
Yeah said the same last night. Naz could end fights when he wanted to - especially against the journeyman/lower ranked fighters. Whittaker doesn't have that power to do so, he's very talented and some of the angles and combinations he throws are exceptional but I don't think his style will translate to taking on the top guys with his lack of power.
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Yeah and I think that’s a big part of why he gets caught on exits, as his opponents are trading with him, not respecting the power of the shot, where with guys like Nas, the same shot would’ve really hurt them and left them reeling in recovery mode.

As he goes up the division, the better fighters will really punish his pillow hands and purposely exchange, and those shots he’s getting clipped with now instinctively and speculatively will be intended and tactical with enough venom on them to put him out.

The way he is now, it feels like a dead cert that is just a matter of time.
 
Fortitude said:
Yeah and I think that’s a big part of why he gets caught on exits, as his opponents are trading with him, not respecting the power of the shot, where with guys like Nas, the same shot would’ve really hurt them and left them reeling in recovery mode.

As he goes up the division, the better fighters will really punish his pillow hands and purposely exchange, and those shots he’s getting clipped with now instinctively and speculatively will be intended and tactical with enough venom on them to put him out.

The way he is now, it feels like a dead cert that is just a matter of time.
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Good, I might tune in to see him get sparked out
 
Not unless he fights Parker or Fury. I think he walks through Dubois.
 
Gringo said:
Not unless he fights Parker or Fury. I think he walks through Dubois.
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Not sure Joshua vs Parker would interest people much more than the usual interest AJ generates. Not because it won't be a tough fight, but because we've already seen it once. Vs Fury would get everyone hyped.
 
SilentWitness said:
What the feck is wrong with Garcia?
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He's lost the plot. Imagine a shittier De La Hoya but with ten times the worse outside the ring nonsense. He might have some casual fans still into him but I think he's lost the boxing crowd for good.
 
Shakur booed from the ring again at the weekend after another boring performance. Keeps blaming it on the level of the fighter he's facing, he needs to step it up next fight and face one of the other champions.
 
SambaBoy said:
Shakur booed from the ring again at the weekend after another boring performance. Keeps blaming it on the level of the fighter he's facing, he needs to step it up next fight and face one of the other champions.
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The most recent episode of" It is what it is" went in on him.
 
SambaBoy said:
Shakur booed from the ring again at the weekend after another boring performance. Keeps blaming it on the level of the fighter he's facing, he needs to step it up next fight and face one of the other champions.
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He wants Loma next apparently.
 
SambaBoy said:
Shakur booed from the ring again at the weekend after another boring performance. Keeps blaming it on the level of the fighter he's facing, he needs to step it up next fight and face one of the other champions.
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Shakur-Zepeda is the fight to make - hopefully the WBC order it. Consider he's been complaining about opponent's not coming to fight, it's the perfect test for him stylistically. Plus Zepeda might just be the best 135lb'er on the planet if recent performances are anything to go by, let's see him in with one of the elite already. Dude is #1 with EVERY governing body which is absurd.
 
DannyCAFC said:
Shakur-Zepeda is the fight to make - hopefully the WBC order it. Consider he's been complaining about opponent's not coming to fight, it's the perfect test for him stylistically. Plus Zepeda might just be the best 135lb'er on the planet if recent performances are anything to go by, let's see him in with one of the elite already. Dude is #1 with EVERY governing body which is absurd.
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It's more a question of if Golden Boy really wants to make that fight. Stevenson is one of the worst "high risk / low reward" opponent you can imagine. There's possibly easier belts to go after or the hope of making a Tank fight for Zepeda.

That said, it's a good fight on paper. You'd feel that if someone has the tools to force Shakur out of his comfort zone & overcome his defense, it's Zepeda.
 
DannyCAFC said:
Shakur-Zepeda is the fight to make - hopefully the WBC order it. Consider he's been complaining about opponent's not coming to fight, it's the perfect test for him stylistically. Plus Zepeda might just be the best 135lb'er on the planet if recent performances are anything to go by, let's see him in with one of the elite already. Dude is #1 with EVERY governing body which is absurd.
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Wouldn't mind seeing him jump straight in with Tank.
 
SambaBoy said:
Wouldn't mind seeing him jump straight in with Tank.
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It's honestly entirely up to Tank / GTD / PBC if they give that fight or not...
Right now the mood is rather Tank-Loma. Shakur will at least need a fight until then. Zepeda seems the biggest he could get at 135 and the only one that could raise his profile (and thus convince PBC there's a juicy PPV to make there).
That's a pretty rotten gift to make to Zepeda and probably not the biggest paycheck but if it is the only belt shot available...
 
Nathan Heaney's dream fight at the Bet365 stadium isn't to be, he lost his British title to Brad Pauls last night after a 12th round KO.

Speaking of Pauls, check out this absolute weapon...
 
Salt Bailly said:
Nathan Heaney's dream fight at the Bet365 stadium isn't to be, he lost his British title to Brad Pauls last night after a 12th round KO.

Speaking of Pauls, check out this absolute weapon...
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Heaney-Pauls went similar to their first fight except Pauls got to him a bit earlier this time. The difference in strength and power was too much.

Heaney seems a really decent bloke, he’s really squeezed the most of a limited amount of ability. He’ll probably admit he exceeded his expectations and I wouldn’t expect him to hang around in the sport as he seems intelligent.

The fact Jake Paul is selling PPV’s and talking pure shite whilst not actually facing any boxers blows my mind. They are always smaller than him, inactive and have no power. Absolute bell whiff.
 
Jake is such a doofus. Really wish he'd fight a relatively high level boxer in his own weight class to get humbled.
 
Chisora will never be a world champion but jeez he does put on a good fight and the crowd love him.

What a warrior, really enjoyable fight but Joyce has fell off a cliff
 
pocco said:
Chisora is an absolute legend. Win or lose, he makes fights so entertaining. He's worth his weight in gold to promoters.
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Kinda wish he would lose for the sake of his health but you're right, he's gold for promoters and he's a warrior.
 
Joyce is incapable of moving his slab head. He really needs to give it up now.
 
What a turd joust Joyce-Chisora was; neither able to get out of the way of anything and little skill on show.

The post fight interviews were acting like it was Hagler-Hearns.
 
Joyce needs to retire.

Basing your career on blocking shots with your chin is always going to catch up with you sooner or later.
 
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