Fighting Wilder the undefeated world WBC heavyweight Champion in his own back yard and you’re trying to paint that as a negative? Tell you what AJ wouldn’t take that fight even to this day.
Bingo 100%.
What else do we have, genuinely? We've never done well at HW. We'll have to look at Cooper, who, with the greatest respect, was pretty shit across the border, and Bugner. Haye? The competition modest, to say the least.
Fighting Joshua, who was considered the best in the world, for double the money and 3x the belt is somehow considered the worse choice to you? What are you even trying to say?
Didn't catch that one. He is being super protected is he?
I think a prime Haye with his explosive style and fast hands would of been a nightmare for AJ.
Possibly. Haye was one of the few CW's who carried his KO power forward. But then I think if he fought the same WK AJ fought he would've still lost. Either way I think an argument could still be made for AJ to be in the top 3 HWs Britain has produced, which says how poor we've been in this weight class!
Hadn’t Fury just come back at that point though? He’d had like 1 fight in almost 4 years and weight about 45 stone and was on the beer, I watched his interview with Gary Neville lately and he used Wilder ‘trash talking’ him as a motivation to get back to his best.
It being away from home, where a decision is extremely difficult to come by, yes I'd say so. You could maybe make an argument for Vlad but he was beltless, at Wembley, and at retirement age.
If you think the retirement age Vlad who's invincible aura was long gone, at home with friendly judges was tougher than the one Fury fought then we're never going to agree.
Right, so how is this a negative on Joshua? Bear in mind he had offered the fight, as well as offered to fight Wilder, as well as _actually_ fighting the best of the rest. Fury's condition is his own issue. I'm genuinely not sure what point you're trying to make.
What? Did you reply to the wrong post?
He got knocked out. It could've been his dad as ref and it wouldn't have mattered. And his 'aura' was gone in one fight? Equally, and in WK's own words, he didn't prepare for the Fury fight like he did AJ. Game plan and physical fitness was different gravy.
That isn't what I said at all, I said the rank and file (who they're both miles better than) of Joshua's CV is a bit better, but Fury has more headlines, and they're better than Joshua's headlines. That to me makes Fury's CV better, rather than a slightly higher calibre of bums in filler fights.
Your second paragraph isn't true but fair enough if you think Wilder is harder than any fight AJ has had. I'll respectfully disagree.
When else has Joshua travelled abroad for fights at the top level? If I'm wrong then I'm wrong, but I only know of the Ruiz fight.
Wasn't that the very definition of hubris?The minute he had that Apollo Creed style entrance followed by playing the song that plays in Rocky after Apollo dies... You knew he's getting beaten the feck up
Based on???
I am no boxing expert but to me there was no way that was 114-114. Usyk definitely had that
How many times has Wilder been knocked down? He doesn’t get rocked by jabs. AJ is like a heavyweight Khan but not as bad.
No way AJ wins that on points - not sure what fight he was watching.
I was asking about the Hatton fight as I didn't see it.
Wilder gets rocked in pretty much every fight he’s ever in. He‘s been clipped by bums and done the wobbly leg in most fights. He doesn’t have a great chin at all.
Morning dude! I’ll do a full post at some point today….just dragging my sorry arse out the hotel and hobbling off to Kings CrossHow much would you not love to be there now @T00lsh3d give us a wave
The problem with this era of super, giant HW's is that the majority of them are massive, immobile donkeys with only Fury being an anomaly in being so large yet so incredibly mobile. A cruiserweight coming up and taking his speed and mobility with him whilst being able to withstand heavyweight blows is going to make them look slower and less mobile than they are relative to each other, so Usyk's movement - which was already top class a weight class down - is going to amplify things and distort perception because in this day and age, your generic heavyweight cannot stick and move and display that kind of perpetual lateral movement.
Oh sorry mate, one too many I didn't get that.
No problem. Glad everyone can see this now, the AJ love in on here the last few years was nauseous. Especially when there was a true top class, British heavyweight under everyone's noses.
