if Serie A is so good, why does it have zero UCL or Europa League titles in 11 years?It's easy to make cherry picking stats like those. Serie A is a farmer's league because Lukaku and Young are doing well?
I can name tons of Serie A rejects who are doing well in other leagues. Let's talk about the european teams that Manchester United faced in the last 5 months only:
- Suso, Ocampos, Banega are three Serie A flop -> In Sevilla's starting XI when they eliminated Manchester United (Suso also scored a goal, Banega MotM probably).
- Florenzi couldn't start anymore for Roma, Kean and Paredes didn't thrive in Serie A-> In PSG's Starting XI when they defeated 1-3 Manchester United at Old Trafford
- Patrick Kluivert was crap for Giallorossi -> Moved to RB Leipzig and scored the decisive goal in RB Leipzig - Manchester United 3-2
PS: Young is starting over Perisic, a guy who played 35 games for FC Bayern last season and won more trophies in the past 7 months than Manchester United in the last 4 years..
How does the press in Spain or Italy report the prem compared to their own leagues? Maybe, just maybe, every major footballing nation focuses on, and hypes up their own domestic league.Premier League is the most overrated league in the world, period.
Every top league this season has been exciting, but all you hear is how competitive has EPL being, as if other leagues haven't seen their share of upsets, but at the end of the day, top sides get to the top positions in the league, it is same everywhere, even EPL. but the way media and social media fans cream over a West Brom drawing a Liverpool is hilarious.
I mean Man City are an absolutely phenomenal team who are capable of that. Despite that they’ve been close in a lot of games.A lot of talk recently about ManCity extending their unbeaten run to 17 games if they beat Arsenal today. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think this is the Iongest domestic winstreak ever for Guardiola.
I wonder what the PL hypemen a la @Wumminator make of the fact that Guardiola has never had such a long unbeaten run with any team in any league? It kinda goes against the narrative of how close and challenging each game is, doesn't it?
Don't want to recycle the same old arguments we have read many times in this thread but I'm genuinely curious as to what you make of that, as some posters are excellent at twisting in turning arguments to suit a certain narrative.
La Liga has dropped off in a big way. I would say Serie A is probably stronger these days, but more for the fact that it's competitive and a lot of teams are on a similar level.After 5 years of joining this Forum I am prepared to say it officially. It's currently the best League in the world. What I don't know is if the second one is still La Liga or if Serie A is already better.
It's the Bundesliga actuallyAfter 5 years of joining this Forum I am prepared to say it officially. It's currently the best League in the world. What I don't know is if the second one is still La Liga or if Serie A is already better.
One could argue he had even better teams at Bayern and Barcelona at his disposal and still couldn't do it. You keep banging on about the competetiveness of the PL, yet in the last 3 seasons the Champions went on record breaking winning streaks, surely something you wouldnt expect judging by your comments.I mean Man City are an absolutely phenomenal team who are capable of that. Despite that they’ve been close in a lot of games.
You look at the other big clubs in the world at the moment and I think it’s feasible that 6 of the top 11 teams in the world are in the prem.
Agreed and I’m not going overboard on it but I would have thought the team currently ahead of both Barca and real were a bit better than that.TBF anything can happen in one off games. It’s why the CL isn’t always the best barometer.
It told you a lot about the state of La Liga when Bayern absolutely humiliated Atletico in the group stage while the latter was leading the league.
They're not better than barcelona or real madrid though, not in the way that matters in CLAgreed and I’m not going overboard on it but I would have thought the team currently ahead of both Barca and real were a bit better than that.
Perhaps it was a bad day at the office.it’s not like Chelsea are all that either.
so when Lyon beat city and Atletico beat Liverpool was PL wank last year? Because this is the weakest PL since 2016Don't think anybody can deny that English Premier League is by far the best league in the world, especially after tonight's Atletico-Chelsea
La Liga and Serie A embarassing so far, Bundesliga better than both leagues but that Leipzig - Liverpool 0-2 show that PL simply is on another level (waiting for BMG - Manchester City tomorrow)
French teams had holidays for three or four months, Bundesliga finished three weeks before PL... Definitely wouldn't count "Champions League" of last summer.so when Lyon beat city and Atletico beat Liverpool was PL wank last year? Because this is the weakest PL since 2016
City winning anything means feck all. It's a hollow victory. They could win the World Cup and it would mean nothing to me. Liverpool winning the Carabao Cup, however, would annoy me.Bookies have them at 10/1 to do it.
Them eclipsing our treble would be fecking hell. Praying Bayern or PSG can stop them in the CL.
Being "the best league in the world" is disconnected to the strength of the league currently. It can still be the best league currently just because the others are weak, and could also not have been the absolute best in the 00s because other leagues were more competitive. Also being "the best league in the world" is so relative - is it because of the overall strength of the 20 teams? (which you could make a case for now, with the traditional big clubs being challenged) Is it having very strong top teams? In which case the 00s were brutal. It's also a very strange season in itself - I'm not saying it shouldn't be considered of course, but I don't think massive conclusions can be taken, with how different things are: no crowds, intense schedule which will favour teams with big squads, the weird beginning of the season with teams not beginning at the same time, getting little to no pre-season and shortened breaks, matches being called off because of Covid...Obviously PL clearly being the best league in the world (and has been for 2-3 seasons already) doesn't fit some people's narrative that "City can run away only because the league's so weak now and 00s was the golden era".
00's is referenced so much because it was so competitive. Add in PL teams didn't used to get a winter break as well and it's actually amazing when you think from 04/05 to 11/12 there was a PL team in the CL final every year bar one. City are just unlucky in a sense that when they were being taken over and building for the future, United, Liverpool and Arsenal were bought by owners whose first priority is to make money.Obviously PL clearly being the best league in the world (and has been for 2-3 seasons already) doesn't fit some people's narrative that "City can run away only because the league's so weak now and 00s was the golden era".
I think City would beat Bayern this season.Bayern the best side in the world. City second next to PSG. Then it is pretty open and Spanish league is on a decline.
We say this every year and they always find a daft way to go out. Of course sooner or later a time will come when that doesn't happen.I think City would beat Bayern this season.
I think City probably are the best team in europe at the moment.
It helps that they are used to playing in a empty stadium.
There is some truth to this, especially when you look at TV money - it is much more evenly distributed in the PL than in the Bundesliga, which makes it difficult for the smaller clubs to improve their level much.The key difference is most other leagues are geared to suit the top clubs in the league. In England, the top clubs do not get preferential treatment.