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The right back market
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Our current right back options are decent.
Sadly we don't play one and our right wing backs are largely shite.
Sadly we don't play one and our right wing backs are largely shite.
Should there be a middle back market thread too?
I guess that's a centre back, which is a whole different position.
I guess that's a centre back, which is a whole different position.
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Actually it's now three.
One reason we may sell Dalot (other than for performance reasons) is because he's one of the few players having clubs who want to buy him and whatever we gain from the sale can be construed as pure profit for FFP since his purchase price has been fully amortized already. For me, it'd be a mistake selling him when there are bigger, more glaring areas we need to cover.
It's really poor. I'm not even sure Frimpong is that great a fit for this current United side despite being a good player, though you'd probably take him if available and willing to join.
I wouldn't be surprised to see United go for another LWB instead as there are so many better options on that side and play Dorgu off the right more, even though I don't think it suits him greatly from what we've seen so far.
I wouldn't be surprised to see United go for another LWB instead as there are so many better options on that side and play Dorgu off the right more, even though I don't think it suits him greatly from what we've seen so far.
He should be a must buy at his current price. The best in the business on the right side of a back 3 system.
Agreed. Or buy some left #10s and give the RWB to Amad.
Givario Read looks great and seems like our type of transfer than Frimpong
He will be off to Liverpool to replace TAA.
I am referring to Frimpong.
I am referring to Frimpong.
Roger Fernandes looks a decent shout if we want somebody in the Quenda mould. More of a winger like Quenda, but I think there's a lot of similarities between the two and, in terms of playing profile, he would be a good alternative if that is what we wanted. He would obviously need to learn the position, but both Quenda and Amad have done, and Fernandes shares the right traits by the looks of it to be a hit there too.
Don't think that's a smart swap for Pool or him. Trent's use came with his ability on the ball not his pace, I think they'll want someone a bit more solid defensively.
He would be an interesting signing, although I worry about our physicality.
They have that already with their back-up player and along with Frimpong it gives them good options on that side.
Frimpong really isn't a right back in a back 4.
I'd be all over him for a RWB especially for the price, but I don't see Liverpool going in for him.
I'd be all over him for a RWB especially for the price, but I don't see Liverpool going in for him.
If am not mistaken he has actually operated in the role of a wingback already. Thus It won't be new to him
Frimpong just had an amazing game against Spain. He'd be a dream signing.
Fecking ETH and his Dutch obsession.
Think it would be a shrewd move to sell Dalot and grab this guy. We don't have any need for two mis fitting fullbacks, and Dalot has good value in the market right now while Frimpong would provide a huge boost as a true WB
I think a RWB will be quite some way down the pecking order of priorities, probably below a striker, #10 and a couple of central midfielders.
I wouldn't completely rule out the club bringing in someone at RWB this summer, but with the transfer budget likely to be very tight, I'd say the prospect is pretty unlikely.
I wouldn't completely rule out the club bringing in someone at RWB this summer, but with the transfer budget likely to be very tight, I'd say the prospect is pretty unlikely.
That wouldn’t be a good fit at all. He’s clearly a wingback and playing him in a back 4 would leave them really lacking defensively. Although that’s basically the same as Trent anyway.
No, Dalot is untouchable.
You've answered your own point. Trent isn't really a RB in a back four either, but they've been able to make it work with their shape. His average position is basically always in-line with or in advance of their right-sided CM.
I feel like people are still assessing modern full-backs like they playing straight up-and-down the pitch in the channel for 90 minutes and that just isn't the case. If Frimpong were to play that role then sure I think he'd be a lot more exposed defensively, but they'll use him a lot smarter than that if they do sign him.
I don't think he'd be a bad fit at all for Liverpool but what he does seem to lack - at least experience of it in Leverkusen's system - is being the inverted full-back who touches the ball 70-80 times a game and helps play through the lines.
For Leverkusen that's Grimaldo on the other side, and I think Liverpool might have to follow a similar approach and therefore upgrade on Robertson as well in combination to restore that balance with the new LB effectively filling that progressor role that Trent's been playing.
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In my opinion, sorting RWB is only behind getting a CF in terms of priority.
They are integral to the system and persisting with dalot will only stunt the effectiveness of Amorims system.
I think the wingbacks are a top priority to let Amorim’s system work, otherwise what’s the use of 3-4-2-1. Frimpong for 40 million euro is a no-brainer, we would be stupid not to do so. He already plays the role at Leverkussen where he is the whole right side on his own. With Dorgu on the left and Frimpong on the right Amorim can really unlock his tactics at United.
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If Frimpong would be willing to come to United and the buy out is 30 mil we’d be stupid not to. I doubt wage demands would be that crazy or beyond our ability. But yeah absolute no brainer of a signing.
I just however doubt we’d be a realistic destination in his eyes right now. Maybe he could be sold on the project. New stadium, youthful side with plenty of potential but you’d have to think people like Liverpool, City and Madrid would be interested, especially at that price.
Just seem’s like convincing him to come would be a challenge. If we could I do however think he would massively improve the way our team play at the moment.
I just however doubt we’d be a realistic destination in his eyes right now. Maybe he could be sold on the project. New stadium, youthful side with plenty of potential but you’d have to think people like Liverpool, City and Madrid would be interested, especially at that price.
Just seem’s like convincing him to come would be a challenge. If we could I do however think he would massively improve the way our team play at the moment.
Maybe we can convince him that United is the only team where he can really play in his position as a wingback.
I really hope you're not from India, if you are, this should be a permaban right here @golden_blunder @Solius @jojojo
Say that to Ruben Amorim.
The post is permaban worthy if and only if the poster is from India? That doesn't sound particularly good.
I think we only sign a RWB as a bonus signing. Wouldn’t prioritise it as Dalot and Amad can play there. ST needs to be number 1, we also need a 10. I’d put these 2 above anything.
A bit of an under the radar alternative is Tom Fellows (21) at West Brom. Perhaps primarily one for the future but as an attacking alternative at RWB I think he could be a very exciting prospect.
Two footed, a good crosser and a good dribbler one v one, and has pace. Has a decent size/frame (6'1) but would perhaps bulk up a little optimally.
Racked up an impressive 11 assists and 2 goals this season playing at right mid, 4 goals and 3 assist last season.
I'm under no illusion that he would transform our right side immediatly, but as a punt in the "Daniel James-category" for more attacking threat on RWB I'd say that he's an exciting option.
Two footed, a good crosser and a good dribbler one v one, and has pace. Has a decent size/frame (6'1) but would perhaps bulk up a little optimally.
Racked up an impressive 11 assists and 2 goals this season playing at right mid, 4 goals and 3 assist last season.
I'm under no illusion that he would transform our right side immediatly, but as a punt in the "Daniel James-category" for more attacking threat on RWB I'd say that he's an exciting option.
Why do we need a #10? We have lot of options there.
Its not a priority.
After striker i would say midfield and right wingback is on par in priority terms.
While Frimpong seems a lock to play at RWB, it should be said that his play style is more of a winger than an actual wing back. If you see his heat map since Alonso took over you'd think he was an old school right winger.
Leverkusen have the right partnership in midfield to deal with Frimpong staying so far forward, with two energetic midfielders in Xhaka and Palacios/Andrich able to cover lots of ground. Usually Palacios/Andrich are the more defensive midfielder with Xhaka and cover the right side of the pitch. Ofcourse this is also combined with Leverkusen's generally high pressing style, which would enable them to win the ball quickly before the opposition can try to hit back.
It's a very structured system so while Frimpong is a very good player himself, you need to have the right balance elsewhere. Ugarte would be a really good complement to Frimpong as a DM since you can ask him to cover the right side when Frimpong is forward. The right side CB, usually Tapsoba right now for Leverkusen, would also have to aggressive in pushing forward.
Leverkusen have the right partnership in midfield to deal with Frimpong staying so far forward, with two energetic midfielders in Xhaka and Palacios/Andrich able to cover lots of ground. Usually Palacios/Andrich are the more defensive midfielder with Xhaka and cover the right side of the pitch. Ofcourse this is also combined with Leverkusen's generally high pressing style, which would enable them to win the ball quickly before the opposition can try to hit back.
It's a very structured system so while Frimpong is a very good player himself, you need to have the right balance elsewhere. Ugarte would be a really good complement to Frimpong as a DM since you can ask him to cover the right side when Frimpong is forward. The right side CB, usually Tapsoba right now for Leverkusen, would also have to aggressive in pushing forward.
Interesting shout.
Mazaroui would be top 5 in the league easily if we still
Played a back 4 . Sadly he is probably only going to be a utility player at present. I like him at RCB . But Yoro is the future
I think it'll be really quite high on the list - the wing backs are pivotal to this system, and the only person we have who can really excel in the role is Amad, who is probably better suited to being one of the 10s. Playing the likes of Dalot or Mazraoui there is severely holding us back, so finding someone with the required physical attributes for the role (like Dorgu on the opposite side) should be one of our top priorities.