The whole point of having a left-footer there is for them to be a threat cutting in to shoot or pass. Dorgu doesn't seem to have either in his locker at all, at least for now.
The right back market
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Yeah certainly not seen enough yet
Fast forward to October and Amorim is sacked after racking up 3/4 losses, new manager hired who favours 4 atb and now all of a sudden, we have Mbeumo, Amad, Roger Fernandes and Mantato all vying for one RW position and Mazraoui is our only RB.
Yeah I'm with you, don't think we should make this signing right now.
He isn’t even good on the left wing. How do you think he is going to perform on the right wing?
He was playing RW at his previous club as far as I know. We tried him a handful of times at RWB, he was bad a few times, positive once if I remember.
Please raise your standards.
Ship has long sailed but still endearing to hear from a player
looks like we have a possible new offer in the works for Vanderson who's the right back from Monaco
https://www.football365.com/news/ma...-seriously-considering-offer-vanderson-amorim
https://www.football365.com/news/ma...-seriously-considering-offer-vanderson-amorim
Please be true
looks to be a pretty solid defender for a brazilian with clear skill set going forward
Unfortunately, they are quoting Fichajes as a source.
Hmmm, Vanderson, looks like he's eaten Anderson:
Man Utd: Monaco 'seriously considering' £25m INEOS 'offer' for star 'perfectly suited' to Amorim style https://share.google/fQaPtImLCLP0UdV3E
Man Utd: Monaco 'seriously considering' £25m INEOS 'offer' for star 'perfectly suited' to Amorim style https://share.google/fQaPtImLCLP0UdV3E
Hope this is rubbish. Amad is the one player at United who consistently makes it worth watching them and if they're signing a RB/RWB, it's essentially relegating him to the bench or consigning him to the bomb squad.Hmmm, Vanderson, looks like he's eaten Anderson:
Man Utd: Monaco 'seriously considering' £25m INEOS 'offer' for star 'perfectly suited' to Amorim style https://share.google/fQaPtImLCLP0UdV3E
Options. Competition. Rotation. Injury
I wouldn't say no to a Jaoa Cancelo though - covers multiple positions and would be ideal for the inverted foot LWB in the Amorim system.
What's up with him lately?
What's up with him lately?
It’s likely rubbish but if it was true, it’s more of Mbeumo St, Amad R10 and Sanderson Rwb
Exactly where you expect him to be.. The dessert..
Prefer us to take a chance on Wesley Franca who earlier this year broke into the Brazil NT (looks like Ancelotti hasn’t included him in his 1st squad which isn’t overly surprising).
Looks like he has more pace and aggression with a similar level of technical ability to Vanderson if you check his YT portfolio. We were linked a few weeks ago but City have been the stronger rumours so far.
Why do some United fans hate competition? We need options in every position no matter how good you are, you stop need competition. No competition makes a player feel relaxed and most times unbothered knowing they will always keep their place even if there stink up the place and also you have to consider injuries.
Look at the best teams in the world, they have about two quality players in each position. Liverpool just won the league and are getting Wirtz, I don’t see Liverpool fans crying over whether Szoboszlai or Mac Allister loses their place.
Nah, don't agree with this for this window. We don't have enough budget to be spending it on non-core priorities.
It's not a hatred of competition - although in the real world, it's not a good idea to unsettle your best players - its simply that on a supposed tight budget, we should be prioritising the signing of midfielders, forwards and a goalkeeper which are the obvious weakpoints in the team now.
So we have two really interesting options in the league (both of whom are rated as the best right backs by Paul Parker) Brentford's Michael Kayode (turns 22 in July) and Palace's Daniel Muñoz (29). I think the latter is currently the better player, but in terms of physicality and engine there is no one better than Kayode. I think both would massively improve the balance of the team and give Mbeumo/Amad great support to allow them to play to their strengths.
As much as I hate Dalot, I think him and Maz are fine for another season. It’s the left side that we need to sort out and maybe another CB, if I am being greedy.
I don’t think we will be doing any business with Brentford any time soon. I think we got annoyed because they were trying their hardest to sell Mbeumo to Spurs or Newcastle.
We should be pushing the boat out for Kayode this summer. Don’t see another RB across Europe with his potential to make the step up to a top club.
I don't think we can justify shelling out big sums on a right back this summer. We need at least two midfielders (I'd argue three), a left-back, and I think a versatile forward at the absolute minimum. I'd prioritise another striker and probably even a centre back over a right-back as well.
Neither Dalot nor Mazraoui are ideal options but the team also doesn't entirely fall apart when either of them plays. Dorgu has also played there before. I think that's plenty enough cover for another season.
Neither Dalot nor Mazraoui are ideal options but the team also doesn't entirely fall apart when either of them plays. Dorgu has also played there before. I think that's plenty enough cover for another season.
Should be giving Dorgu a run next season to see if he has it in him to be the regular LB before buying one. Shaw and Mazraoui offer plenty of depth if he’s not it. Dalot on other other hand definitely is not and Kayode is the obvious replacement.
This. We have too many other needs to even spend time thinking about a RB this summer. Dalot and Maz are not elite, but they are serviceable enough for another season. In the meantime, we have vastly higher priorities which everyone here knows about.
I think Dorgu and Shaw as the left-back options is quite risky, to be honest. Dorgu has seldom played there for us and Shaw, although he's weirdly played the most minutes of anyone in the squad this season, has been massively injury prone throughout his career.
I don't love either Dalot or Mazraoui as the right back options either, and I do agree that Kayode is a very interesting option, but I just feel that there's far less risk in the right back spots with our current options than there is one the left. This is especially the case for me when you consider that Dorgu did also play the occasional game there for Lecce as a third-choice option, and even Yoro has deputised there.
Yeah and I doubt he will be able to handle two games a week next season.
Wouldn’t have to as depth behind Dorgu. Mazraoui is also an option there.
Kayode at RB has generally looked more solid to me than e.g. West Ham's Diouf at LB.
I can't see United signing a RB this summer though, unless it's a youth prospect for peanuts.
Not sure if Kayode will still be at Brentford in a season or two though if he continues to impress, or if United will eventually have to look elsewhere.
We will/should only buy a right back if one of ours is sold.
Oh blessed day.
Why would we want 3 senior right backs?
I wasn’t necessarily disagreeing but I think Mazraoui could be a really valuable utility player a la O’Shea so could see the logic in keeping Dalot to free him up to cover other roles.
I know it's a bit of an unpopular opinion but I think I'd rather a RB came in than a LB this summer, given the choice. Neither of Dalot or Mazraoui are good enough for me to feel comfortable with that position staying stagnant for another year, and I'd rather roll the dice on Dorgu becoming something at LB for us with the cover of Shaw (and Mazraoui, if needed) than sticking with the same players we already know aren't really good enough on the other side.
I know Palestra from Cagliari is supposed to be quite highly rated. It'd be nice to have an option at RB who is capable in attack - and might actually help Amad and Mbeumo who have looked stale for a number of months now.
I know Palestra from Cagliari is supposed to be quite highly rated. It'd be nice to have an option at RB who is capable in attack - and might actually help Amad and Mbeumo who have looked stale for a number of months now.
Easy solution would be to part ways with Mazraoui. I know he is a very nice dude and has been of good service and is versatile, but we need to make right decisions and we need to make the team better. Even better would be to sell Dalot (finally to Madrid when Mou becomes manager?), but I dunno if that is possible with his standing within the club. Sell one of them and get a new LB and a new RB.
I wouldn't mind it, I just don't know how realistic that is when we already need three new midfielders and at least one forward. You're probably right that now would be the best time to cash in on Dalot if we were going to do it, but I think the club would prefer to mitigate risk by keeping him around even if we signed a new right back. For all his faults, Dalot is physically capable and pretty robust.
I think people may underestimate how important this position is to get right. Not just in terms of having more fluidity in attack, but to give Mbeumo and Amad a better platform to perform at their best.
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