The search for a left back...

Mark Pawelek

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Ismaly, Gosens, Alaba
Interesting list.
£m​
Contract​
With​
Name​
Age​
Injuries​
Days Lost​
Matches Lost​
% Lost​
47​
Jun 21​
Bayern Munich​
David Alaba​
28​
30​
531​
78​
16%​
15​
Jun 23​
Shakhtar Donetsk​
Ismaily​
30​
10​
283​
29​
7%​
19​
Jun 22​
Atalanta​
Robin Gosens​
25​
4​
46​
7​
2%​

Alaba - The best of the 3. Too expensive. Contracted to Bayern so hard to get. Too many injuries.
Ismaily - Plays in a weaker league - so realistic target. Brazillian so possible visa issue. After Fred would we risk bringing him in aged 30?
Gosens - Weakest but youngest with best injury record. Atalanta doing well in Seria A in 4th place. Not so fast, but he can tackle.
 

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how hasn’t anyone mentioned Telles? If we want an instant upgrade Telles is your man, great going forward and solid defensively and supposedly available
 

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Shaw is good enough for now, but we might be needing another option soon. Shaw can't play every game, and I don't see Williams as an adequate back-up or an option to start consistently when Shaw is unavailable. I'd try to bring in Tagliafico, Telles or any left field option that would offer something different to Shaw. Looking at our current squad, it is definitely light at full back.
 

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He would cope fine.
He'd do well, he can defend and is a fierce competitor.
I'd never even heard of the lad until about 18 months ago when I watched Atalanta to see how Hans Hateboer, who I rated, was getting on at the time when we were linked with numerous right-backs. But Gosens looks the better footballer, and by quite some distance.

He's 26 in a week or so, and having watched him a lot this year it's a surprise he's not capped at International level yet, maybe he's just undecided on whether he wants to play for Germany or Holland, or maybe neither want him!

Be interesting to see what his next career move is, I can imagine him at somewhere like Stamford Bridge.
 

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Ashley Young was our best left back, bad sale.
 

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I'd never even heard of the lad until about 18 months ago when I watched Atalanta to see how Hans Hateboer, who I rated, was getting on at the time when we were linked with numerous right-backs. But Gosens looks the better footballer, and by quite some distance.

He's 26 in a week or so, and having watched him a lot this year it's a surprise he's not capped at International level yet, maybe he's just undecided on whether he wants to play for Germany or Holland, or maybe neither want him!

Be interesting to see what his next career move is, I can imagine him at somewhere like Stamford Bridge.
My apologies, the message to you was a accident. I've never seen the player play either.
 

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Interesting list.
£m​
Contract​
With​
Name​
Age​
Injuries​
Days Lost​
Matches Lost​
% Lost​
47​
Jun 21​
Bayern Munich​
David Alaba​
28​
30​
531​
78​
16%​
15​
Jun 23​
Shakhtar Donetsk​
Ismaily​
30​
10​
283​
29​
7%​
19​
Jun 22​
Atalanta​
Robin Gosens​
25​
4​
46​
7​
2%​

Alaba - The best of the 3. Too expensive. Contracted to Bayern so hard to get. Too many injuries.
Ismaily - Plays in a weaker league - so realistic target. Brazillian so possible visa issue. After Fred would we risk bringing him in aged 30?
Gosens - Weakest but youngest with best injury record. Atalanta doing well in Seria A in 4th place. Not so fast, but he can tackle.
Alaba has been in the Bayern side for 10 years, which need to be considered with your injury stats. He’s lost an average of 7.8 games a year in reality.

He also only has one year left, which is worth bearing in mind when speaking of price. Then he’s also a top player in 3 key positions, which needs to be considered when deciding best value.

Then lastly, he’s also, by some distance, the best player of the three.
 

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Juan Bernat still hasn't signed a new contract. He's got a year left and he's a quality player. We should've signed him after he left Bayern
 

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Just how common are these surnames?!

Feels like we've had players of quality with these surnames for the last 20 years.
Quaresma is only the second one I can remember after Ricardo Quaresma (no affiliation between the two)

The others are pretty common surnames in all honesty:lol:
 

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He’s made of glass but he’s good going forward not good as a defender. It seems all anyone wants is a winger playing as a LB so we might as well sign Leroy Sanè.
STAY AWAY. His ceiling is the Portuguese league...trust me.

He can attack decently but is god awful at defending.
 

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STAY AWAY. His ceiling is the Portuguese league...trust me.

He can attack decently but is god awful at defending.
I think people underestimate the value of solidity in defence for a full back. Unless he is made to play a role where he barely has to defend, he'd look out of his depth most times. Many people won't love it when our left back is leaving gaps and getting beat for fun especially with Rashford rarely helping out these days.
 

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Similar to how Saka has featured up the whole left-side, could we potentially sogn and convert a player into a LB? I know the caf is famously against playing players’our of position’, but it’s such a specialist role with limited quality options.
Saka has one year left of his contract. How about him?

Would probably be very difficult, but we should push hard for talents like him.
 

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So you mean entering his prime and more experienced means he won’t last 5 mins in this league? Okay?
No I was going beyond the call and giving two reasons why he's not a viable target for United, he's too old for starters, and he almost certainly wouldn't be up for the physicality of the Premier League.
 

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Anyway, I’m thinking a player like Dwight McNeil. I think he could make a great LB potentially. He has a great size and engine, a fantastic delivery too. He could be a utility option, but ai don’t think he’s good enough to join a top club as an outright forward player. I think between LB/LWB, LW and even CM, which I think he has the potential to play, he could be a top player.

I haven’t focused too much on his defensive game, but I think if you have the athletic attributes, full-back is one of the easiest roles to learn. We have had former wingers playing at full back for ages ourselves, and I imagine almost all top full-backs are former wingers anyway.
Would be interesting for sure. He is a well-rounded player without any noticeable weaknesses. Good crossing and passing. The question is how much Burnley would demand for one of their most important players? £30m +?
 

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I like Jamal Lewis when Norwich go down. Always great having a Northern Irishman at United too.