The Second RedCafe Sheep Draft

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The Sheep Draft
The outline of this format is as follows :

- There will be no order of picking.

- Before every round, I, the mod, will post a new criteria, and every manager has to PM me their pick that meets the criteria. More on that in the following points.

- Every manager will be allowed three picks (attempts) in every round to pick a player in every round. If you manage to sign a player successfully in the first pick (attempt), you will not participate in the next two attempts for that round, obviously.

- At the end of every picking round I will announce which managers successfully signed their players, but I will NOT announce the name of the players, so that the managers who failed in that attempt would have to make their second/third attempt without the knowledge of which players were picked in the same round earlier.

- How does a manager get his pick? You get your pick if and only if you were the only one who chose that player. There are three ways in which your pick will be blocked :

1. In the same round and same attempt there were other managers who chose the same player.
2. The player you chose was already successfully signed by someone in the same round in the previous attempt.
3. Your pick doesn't match the criteria.

Before we go further, here's a simple example.

Let's say A, B, C, D and E are playing the draft.

I announce the criteria - Round 1 - blah blah blah.

All 5 managers PM me their picks as follows :

Pick 1 :

A : Brad Pitt
B : Brad Pitt
C : Hugh Grant
D : Orlando Bloom
E : Leonardo DiCaprio

According to the rules, A and B don't get any players and their picks are BLOCKED. C, D and E successfully sign their players. So, at the end of the deadline I will post something like this :

Results of Round 1, Pick 1 :

A : Fail (Brad Pitt)
B : Fail (Brad Pitt)
C : Pass
D : Pass
E : Pass

Blocked List : Brad Pitt.

Important : I will NOT announce the names of successfully drafted players till the end of the round. So the managers going into the second/third attempt will not be knowing which players apart from the ones that were blocked due to duplicate entries are not available.

Now, A and B have to submit again for the same criteria as their second attempt. Let's say :

A : Leonardo DiCaprio
B : Johnny Depp

And I announce after 24 hours :

Results Round 1, Pick 2 :

A : Fail (player already drafted)
B : Pass

B gets his pick as it was not picked by another manager in the same attempt while also not being drafter earlier. A misses his pick again even though it was not picked by another manager in the same round, it was drafted by someone else earlier.

Now, A has to go for a third and last attempt. Let's say :

A : Johnny Depp.

And I announce :

Round 1, Pick 3 results :

A : Fail (player already drafted).

Full round results :

A : Sheep
B : Johnny Depp
C : Hugh Grant
D : Orlando Bloom
E : Leonardo DiCaprio

A again fails, as B had already successfully drafted Johnny Depp which A wasn't aware of.

So, A ends the round without any player and will be assigned a sheep.

End of example.

- A sheep pick will be decided by other managers at the end of the round. This is a way to punish the manager who failed in all his 3 attempts in a round. The sheep pick for a round must meet the criteria of the round. I will make the final decision on the sheep.

Only successful drafters for the round will be allowed to nominate sheep picks. Anyone of them can also reject a nomination if he thinks the pick is unjustified for any reason. The nominations for sheep picks should not coincide with a position the manager has already filled.


- As I said, every round will have a new criterion, so the number of total criteria would be equal to the number of rounds. The new criteria will be posted only at the end of the current round. So, you won't be knowing what kind of players will fall into the next criteria, hence you should cover the difficult positions (Keeper and defense) as early as possible. There could be rounds based on scoring records, for example. So be prepared for all scenarios.

- Important : In the view of the previous point, every manager MUST have a goalkeeper by the end of round 9.


Draft related details :


The deadline for every pick would 24 hours from the point I post the criterion.
There will be 16 managers.
There will be 10 rounds in total. There might be rounds which allow you to pick more than one player.
NO NAMING of unpicked players. Even though there is no order in this, this rule still applies.
If you miss a round completely, you will get a sheep.

The Tournament
Once we have drafted all teams, the same format like all other drafts follows. There will be straight knockouts till we reach the final. The matches will be decided by public voting and a winner will be declared in the end.

All managers are expected to post player profiles and PM me their formation and tactics before their game is scheduled.

Reinforcements
There will be 2 reinforcements after every knockout round. Details will be revealed when the time comes.

Surprises
There will be a "surprise" (maybe two!) during the drafting rounds, so try not to get too attached to all your players.

I hope that was clear. Any doubts, please raise them in the thread.



current managers signed up:

1. Annahnomoss
2. Stobzilla
3. Edgar Allan Pillow
4. Cutch
5. Raees
6. Joga Bonito
7. Harms
8. Sajeev
9. VivaJanuaj
10. MJJ
11. KPS88
12. NoPace
13. MDFCmanager
14. NM
15. BorisDeLaFora
16. Kazi

RESERVES:
1. Hernandez - BFA
2. Zlatan_ish

*And yes, I shamelessly stole some of that from the previous sheep draft OP.*


NoPace - 1. Liedholm, 2. K. H. Förster, 3. Hugo Sanchez, 4. Chumpitaz, 5. Preud'homme, 6. Rummenigge, 7. Camacho, 8. Tshabalala 9. Beckham 10. Yaya Toure 11. Ulysses 12. Angloma

KPS88 - 1. Dino Zoff, 2. Del Piero, 3. Bergomi, 4. Cannavaro, 5. Papin, 6. Carboni, 7. Redondo, 8. Gascoigne 9. Tigana 10. Donadoni 11. Sagnol 12. Eto'o

NM - 1. Puskas, 2. Platini, 3. Tardelli, 4. Pirlo, 5. Ferdinand, 6. Hamrin, 7. Chilavert, 8. Argelico Fcuks 9. Carlos Alberto 10. Schwarzenbeck 11. Gattuso 12. Ze Roberto

harms - 1. Hidegkuti, 2. Passarella, 3. Perez, 4. Alonso, 5. Kaltz, 6. Weiner, 7. Kubala, 8. Buchwald 9. Cabrini 10. L. Enrique 11. Ballack 12. Ibrahimovic

Annahnomoss - 1. Guardiola, 2. Garrincha, 3. Boniek, 4. DaMarcus Beasley, 5. van der Sar, 6. Völler, 7. Dave Mackay, 8. Essien 9. Brehme 10. Sol Campbell 11. Pamarot 12. Ivanovic

MJJ - 1. Hitzfeld, 2. R. Carlos, 3. Eboue, 4. Xavi, 5. Nesta, 6. Iuliano, 7. Trevor Sinclair, 8. Bebeto 9. Ivan Nielsen 10. Pedro Maria Artola 11. Drogba 12. Gilberto Silva

MDFC Manager - 1. Shankly, 2. Seaman, 3. Veron, 4. Vieira, 5. van Basten, 6. Reuter, 7. Zico, 8. Ardiles 9. Costacurta 10. Bergkamp 11. Irwin 12. Ruggeri

Raees - 1. Busby, 2. Batistuta, 3. Effenberg, 4. Hagi, 5. Breitner, 6. Gerets, 7. Vasovic, 8. N'Kono 9. Dzajic 10. Piet Keizer 11. Carvalho 12. Boban

Joga Bonito - 1. Batteaux, 2. Hierro, 3. A.Cole, 4. Kohler, 5. Littbarski, 6. Schuster, 7. Luisito Suarez, 8. Mark Schwarzer 9. Czibor 10. Burgnich 11. Vieri 12. Mascherano

Edgar Allan Pillow - 1. Rocco, 2. Ancelotti, 3. Pantsil, 4. Desailly, 5. Baresi, 6. R. Baggio, 7. Schmeichel, 8. Jairzinho 9. G. Müller 10. Djemba-Djemba 11. Montero 12. Thomas Müller

VivaJanuzaj - 1. Scholes, 2. Ferrara, 3. Kenwyne Jones, 4. Figo, 5. Nedved, 6. Peruzzi, 7. Keane, 8. Dunga 9. Vierchowod 10. Crespo 11. Zambrotta 12. Berthold

BorisDeLaFora - 1. Guttman, 2. Cafu, 3. Lucio, 4. Shevchenko, 5. Stoijkovic, 6. Lizarazu, 7. Souness, 8. Pires 9. Tresor 10. Gerson 11. Buffon 12. Socrates

Cutch - 1. Lobanovskiy, 2. Nilton Santos, 3. Bozsik, 4. B. Charlton, 5. J.Zanetti, 6. Gento, 7. Stanley Matthews, 8. Just Fontaine 9. Krol 10. Sadurni 11. Gamarra 12. Simeone

Sajeev - 1. Capello, 2. Seedorf, 3. Davids, 4. R. Marquez, 5. Henry, 6. Canizares, 7. Paul McGrath, 8. Rivaldo 9. Bossis 10. Amoros 11. Kaka 12. Alaba

Kazi - 1. Stein, 2. Scirea, 3. Landa, 4. Cech, 5. Klinsmann, 6. Schweinsteiger, 7. Bryan Robson, 8. Frank de Boer 9. Thiago Silva 10. Iniesta 11. Bale 12. Sergio Ramos

Stobzilla - 1. Stankovic, 2. Ince, 3. Tioté, 4. M. Laudrup, 5. Kahn, 6. Blanc, 7. John Charles, 8. Hatzipanagis 9. Cerezo 10. Careca 11. Robben 12. Demyanenko
 
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Just a thought, the nationality rule might get in the way of the 'block each other' idea after a few rounds. With many managers looking for players with different nationalities the whole 'be careful not to block each other 3 times or you get a sheep' part is basically gone. At best you have a few pairs with similar nationalities covered and they hurt each other all the time.

Obviously I could be completely wrong, but I think it might be a problem and get in the way of the sheep idea. It's a great rule for a snake draft, not 100% sure if it's that great here, but I guess we find out.
 

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Just a thought, the nationality rule might get in the way of the 'block each other' idea after a few rounds. With many managers looking for players with different nationalities the whole 'be careful not to block each other 3 times or you get a sheep' part is basically gone. At best you have a few pairs with similar nationalities covered and they hurt each other all the time.

Obviously I could be completely wrong, but I think it might be a problem and get in the way of the sheep idea. It's a great rule for a snake draft, not 100% sure if it's that great here, but I guess we find out.
That was a thought. I may end up dropping that, and putting a "decade range" as part of each criteria...that way it isn't too easy to just pick from "every player ever" each round.
 

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There's going to be three different elements to this draft that weren't in the previous sheep draft.

I'll go into them in detail once we have all the managers and are ready to start :) One won't be revealed until part way through.
 

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There's going to be three different elements to this draft that weren't in the previous sheep draft.

I'll go into them in detail once we have all the managers and are ready to start :) One won't be revealed until part way through.
When is it supposed to start? I will be abroad between 15-19.01 but I guess I can log in for a few minutes every 24 hours.
 

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I'm in if there's room. Long time since I last played.
 

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Not gonna try and digest that OP til this hangover dies down a bit but sounds good
:lol: I started to get a thumping headache when trying to process anto's powercards post with a hangover.
 

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If there's still room I'm interested, I'd only be able to do matches on weekends though, granted that's a long way down the line.
 

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Are Gandalf and Sniper's Breath both banned/inactive? Gandalf's Adriano fiasco and Sniper trying to randomly pick Maradona in the middle (he wasn't eligible) were the highlights of the last draft for me.
 

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I'm in if there's room. Long time since I last played.
Glad you saw this. Tried tagging you but couldn't get your name to pop up for some reason.

If there's still room I'm interested, I'd only be able to do matches on weekends though, granted that's a long way down the line.
You're in.

In (if there's still space, that is)
Think you make 16!

Anyone wants to be a reserve let me know. Once everyone checks in here, we can get going when everyone is ready.
 

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If anyone is interested in being an AM for me, just pm me.. newbie or otherwise.
 

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Glad you saw this. Tried tagging you but couldn't get your name to pop up for some reason.
Newsflash, you don't need to select the pop-up for the tag to work, just type @NM

Speaking of the devil, seriously @NM, people have a point here re: AMs delaying things, and you have bad form in that regard. The point should be that one or the other can make calls, particularly you as manager.

Good to see you back.

Now that everyone's signed up...I can start straight away. Just want everyone to check in and see this first
Easy tiger, it's 31/12!!!! Some of those signing up expected this to start a wee bit later iirc.