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yes, but only Brooklyn Beckham.Just checking, is 'Trent' still better than Beckham?
yes, but only Brooklyn Beckham.Just checking, is 'Trent' still better than Beckham?
Brooklyn is half a year younger, he might still catch up.yes, but only Brooklyn Beckham.
What the feck.Brooklyn is half a year younger, he might still catch up.
Teams are targeting him with an alarming success rate.Madrid ripped him to shreds. He's quite the liability
I didn’t need Carragher’s defence of him on MNF, but clearly that was as a result of Klopp’s defence of him - which was really misjudged.He’s in the unenviable position now in which every positive or negative contribution is magnified and overblown depending on which side of the fence you sit. Through no real fault of his own either.
Klopp has to take a lot of responsibility for that, to be honest. He’d have been better served by praising him when asked and leaving it there.
I’d take him to the Euros, for what it’s worth. But Neville’s analysis of him the other night was spot on. In a one off match against quality opposition (like last night) you wouldn’t have much faith in him as part of a back four.
And Madrid!But but but .. he assisted versus Arsenal
It’s on Klopp, certainly. Carragher is a pundit who is paid to debate important stories at any given time. Alexander-Arnold being dropped is a big story and certainly one worth discussing on MNF. I think some people are guilty of forgetting this when sticking it to Carragher. Klopp, however, should know better than to fan the flames.I didn’t need Carragher’s defence of him on MNF, but clearly that was as a result of Klopp’s defence of him - which was really misjudged.
he’s been awful for a year. Southgate gets accused of sticking to his favourites, and here’s a clear example of his picking a player of what he sees, not his reputation.
I wouldn’t take him to the Euros. Walker is a certainty, can play in a back 3, Trippier can also play on the left and James had had a very good season.
Yep. Klopp - and to a lesser degree Carragher - have magnified the scope on him now. It’s totally unfair to a player still so young from two people who supposedly have vested interest in the club.He’s in the unenviable position now in which every positive or negative contribution is magnified and overblown depending on which side of the fence you sit. Through no real fault of his own either.
Klopp has to take a lot of responsibility for that, to be honest. He’d have been better served by praising him when asked and leaving it there.
I’d take him to the Euros, for what it’s worth. But Neville’s analysis of him the other night was spot on. In a one off match against quality opposition (like last night) you wouldn’t have much faith in him as part of a back four.
Agreed with all of that. Problem with TAA is he justifies his quality with his assists and offensive ability. So whenever he contributes to a goal he'll be praised and whenever his defensive ability comes into question (commonly) he'll be slammed. First things first as a 'defender' is to defend. You're just going to be prime target for bigger teams to exploit otherwise.He’s in the unenviable position now in which every positive or negative contribution is magnified and overblown depending on which side of the fence you sit. Through no real fault of his own either.
Klopp has to take a lot of responsibility for that, to be honest. He’d have been better served by praising him when asked and leaving it there.
I’d take him to the Euros, for what it’s worth. But Neville’s analysis of him the other night was spot on. In a one off match against quality opposition (like last night) you wouldn’t have much faith in him as part of a back four.
Why would you? He's unplayable against decent opponents and not needed against lousy opponents when England won't need his offensive contributions to scoreHe’s in the unenviable position now in which every positive or negative contribution is magnified and overblown depending on which side of the fence you sit. Through no real fault of his own either.
Klopp has to take a lot of responsibility for that, to be honest. He’d have been better served by praising him when asked and leaving it there.
I’d take him to the Euros, for what it’s worth. But Neville’s analysis of him the other night was spot on. In a one off match against quality opposition (like last night) you wouldn’t have much faith in him as part of a back four.
He was being exploited defensively even when Pool were doing well. Teams were just somehow missing the chances created from his errors and Liverpool were still winning the games. He got torn apart by Hoilett and Mendez Laing a couple years ago v Cardiff (The game where Morrison missed a sitter then gave a pen away). He struggled massively defensively around that time but nothing was made of it because it wasn't affecting the results.His defensive deficiencies weren't being exposed so much when Liverpool were dominating. However, his performances have been quite poor a long while now and because Liverpool are struggling, he's being badly exposed.
Spot on... when a good fast winger gets him one on one he is terrible defensively.His defensive deficiencies weren't being exposed so much when Liverpool were dominating. However, his performances have been quite poor a long while now and because Liverpool are struggling, he's being badly exposed.
Don't get me wrong, his defensive shortcomings were being exposed, but nowhere near as much as they are now. I suppose too, when Liverpool were at their peak, TAA was contributing brilliantly in an offensive sense - so any defensive errors wouldn't be highlighted as much. I've never been sold on him defensively but I didn't realise he was quite this bad.He was being exploited defensively even when Pool were doing well. Teams were just somehow missing the chances created from his errors and Liverpool were still winning the games. He got torn apart by Hoilett and Mendez Laing a couple years ago v Cardiff (The game where Morrison missed a sitter then gave a pen away). He struggled massively defensively around that time but nothing was made of it because it wasn't affecting the results.
Yeah, this time last year supposedly the only way to play modern football was to have a winger with no defensive responsibilities at fullback. Now, with City's success with a more balanced lineup and even the resurgence of Shaw for us, it already seems to be a bit out of fashion.The attacking fullback fad is slowly fading as i foretold... defenders need to defend first and foremost, that’s always been a weakness of TAA and it will get found out eventually.
City have a better mix of attack and defensive traits in their fullbacks imo.
And how does it make Carragher look like a moron?They've made this whole thing a bigger media storm by having Klopp and the likes of Carragher in the media act like dropping Alexander Arnold is some grave insult by Southgate.
All it's done is heap more pressure on him and after his nightmare tonight it just makes him look worse and makes Carragher look like a moron.
Because Carragher on Monday was ranting and raving about how embarrassing it would be if England didn't play Alexander Arnold and acting outraged at him being dropped.And how does it make Carragher look like a moron?
Have you not seen TAA play football before this season? Have you not seen Liverpool's recent sucess with TAA playing as RB? This couldn't have happened if he wasn't just a 'little bit' good.
When Arnold was doing well as a defender, Liverpool were on the front foot, controlling the ball and he had decent players covering for him when he went forward, Liverpool were basically playing in the opponents half and Arnold was hardly a defender.And how does it make Carragher look like a moron?
Have you not seen TAA play football before this season? Have you not seen Liverpool's recent sucess with TAA playing as RB? This couldn't have happened if he wasn't just a 'little bit' good.
Starting to think he supported Liverpool in plenty of other games tooYou guys are arguing with a guy who supported Liverpool in UCL finals
Exactly, the bolded tends to be the way. I was told categorically that we would see a huge improvement with the arrival of Telles and his ability going forward. All we saw were holes he left at the back, I would hazard a guess AWB (who many claim is woeful going forward) has created more chances and assists than Telles.Yeah, this time last year supposedly the only way to play modern football was to have a winger with no defensive responsibilities at fullback. Now, with City's success with a more balanced lineup and even the resurgence of Shaw for us, it already seems to be a bit out of fashion.
Just goes to show that most tactical expertise on football forums extends only as far as "what's currently popular"
Becks was a better crosser and it seems a much better defender also.Just checking, is 'Trent' still better than Beckham?
I’d have hoped people have clocked on “SirMarcusRashford” is a liverpool supporter by now to be fair. It’s painfully obviousYou guys are arguing with a guy who supported Liverpool in UCL finals
Starting to think he supported Liverpool in plenty of other games too
I believe up to very recently Telles is our most creative player after Bruno Rash and Shaw. Says more about our attackers if you ask me. James has shot right up the list after about 10 gamesExactly, the bolded tends to be the way. I was told categorically that we would see a huge improvement with the arrival of Telles and his ability going forward. All we saw were holes he left at the back, I would hazard a guess AWB (who many claim is woeful going forward) has created more chances and assists than Telles.
Like everything there needs to be a balance to it. Nothing wrong if you have an outstanding fullback who can do both aspects of the game, great, but it's a position that dictates a greater requirement for defence first and foremost.
There are supposed ManUtd fans defending everything related to City from at least last 5 years, so this is nothing.Why has a supposed United fan spent two days defending fecking TAA
Really? I wouldn't say 2 assists in 17 league games with zero goals is much to shout home about. Those assists were likely from corners as well.I believe up to very recently Telles is our most creative player after Bruno Rash and Shaw. Says more about our attackers if you ask me. James has shot right up the list after about 10 games