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In the case of Plymouth...
  • He has committed 3 violations of FFP, and that is a request to resign.
  • His first violation was clear, and so was this third one.
''If your squad size exceeds your limit, your club will be banned from transferring any players in to the club. This includes P/E deals.''
  • The second violation he argued that he was thrown off by being allowed to bid in the draft, so he thought he had allowance to still purchase players .
I think it hinges on this; If his second violation is correct or unjustified.
 

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In the case of Liverpool...
  • He was explicitly told the deal was not allowed
  • The deal went ahead regardless, so Liverpool are at fault for this transfer as well.

    BUT
  • There are not any rules written anywhere governing if you are liable and can be penalised when selling to a transfer banned club.
I think in this case it hinges on whether you can penalise someone for going against what the authority instruct you to, or not to do, when there are no written rules on the matter.

Maybe it should go down to precedent, what has happened before when a manager made a sale to a TB'd manager, with knowledge of the ban. Has it happened before?
 

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I think lower rated players should get higher rises to a level near their team mates regardless of their ratings. Look at Damo's Valery for example: He's 70 right, starting for a PL side even though it's been only a few games he's looking like he belongs in the starting 11. Why can't he get 83-85 even though he's only 70? They only do this if the player has won something major. We're waiting 6 months for a measly rise.. Fecking shoddy system.
The problem is all the players getting added at 70 rating. Wouldn't be an issue if they were 75-78 rated when added. 70-75 should be for division 2 clubs.
 

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The problem is all the players getting added at 70 rating. Wouldn't be an issue if they were 75-78 rated when added. 70-75 should be for division 2 clubs.
This is a big part of the problem, true.
It is a good deal for Plymouth, definitely. Just saying these are hardly players worth trying to be sneaky re FFP about.
Not worth being asked to leave the league that's for true.
 

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VARANE (25/93): 0. .. +1 niceee
LENGLET (23/89): +4... 0 wtf no change
T.HERNÁNDEZ (21/87): +1... 0 wtf no change
J.KOKE (26/94): 0.. No change
I.MUNIAIN (26/89): +1... Wtf no change. got a - 1 last time due to lots of injury now is back scoring and setting up goals and captain..pure BS
G.GUEDES (22/89): 0.. No change
F.CALERO (23/82): +10... Wtf only a +4
 

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VARANE (25/93): 0. .. +1 niceee
LENGLET (23/89): +4... 0 wtf no change
T.HERNÁNDEZ (21/87): +1... 0 wtf no change
J.KOKE (26/94): 0.. No change
I.MUNIAIN (26/89): +1... Wtf no change. got a - 1 last time due to lots of injury now is back scoring and setting up goals and captain..pure BS
G.GUEDES (22/89): 0.. No change
F.CALERO (23/82): +10... Wtf only a +4
Barcelona review finishes tomorrow so Longlegs will go up.
 

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Aye, thats the real problem. I'm really not sure given we can't actively punish him due to lack of admin controls in SM.
It is pathetic. I can understand SM don't want certain admins to go powerhungry but if an admin does, then the people in the league would just leave anyway. There's a good balance between sod all powers like there are now, and giving an admin the key to everything.
 

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The insanely talented Isco has scored a brace as United beat Real Betis 4:0. Next up: back-to-back defeats to Darlington and Sunderland.

De Gea (95)

Kimmich (92) Boateng (93) Alaba (93) Gaya (90)
Eriksen (93)➕ Kroos (95)
Brandt (90) Griezmann (95) Isco (93)⚽⚽➕
Mbappe (93)⚽⚽➕⭐

Subs: Roberto (91), Christensen (90), Stones (90), Dele (92), Sterling (92), Martial (90), Pogba (93)
Injured: Ramos (95)
Did not travel: Goretzka (91), Shaw (88) - if anyone wants to loan Shaw for the remaining games, feel free.

Key:
⚽ = Goal
➕ = Assist
⭐ = MOTM
= Subbed off
= Subbed on


Next three games:
MD32: Darlington (A)
MD33: Sunderland (H)
CCR2L2: Real Betis (A)
 

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Getting frustrating that any decent under 25 players are being mopped up by big teams time and time again leaving everyone newer with the oldies.
 

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As for the smaller teams not having good players, look at:
  • Cardiff with Davinson Sanchez, Rodri Hernandez, Amine Harit and Aouar
  • Hereford with Ndombele and Malcom
  • Southend with Donnarumma, Joe Gomez, Upamecano, Tousart, Torreira, Havertz and Dembele
They've held on. Even Mansfield has Sancho.
 

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Race to 90 (II)

Name (Team): Player Name - Updated Rating (Start Rating)
  1. It's a farce! (Norwich City): Achraf Hakimi - 87 (77)
  2. Gythio (Aston Villa): Tom Davies - 86 (76)
  3. harshad (Bristol City): Justin Kluivert - 86 (78)
  4. Damien (Man Utd): Vinicius Junior - 85 (70)
  5. infamous7 (Fulham): Jonathan Ikone - 85 (77)
  6. Dom Gill (Barnsley): Cucho Hernandez - 85 (78)
  7. green_smiley (Southend Utd): Moise Kean - 82 (76)
  8. The Taurean (Forest): Milton Valenzuela - 80 (70)
  9. Herrera (Liverpool): Pietro Pellegri - 80 (70)
  10. christy07 (Chelsea): Branimir Kalaica - 76 (76)
  11. langster (Derby): Abdou Diakhate - 75 (75)
 

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As for the smaller teams not having good players, look at:
  • Cardiff with Davinson Sanchez, Rodri Hernandez, Amine Harit and Aouar
  • Hereford with Ndombele and Malcom
  • Southend with Donnarumma, Joe Gomez, Upamecano, Tousart, Torreira, Havertz and Dembele
They've held on. Even Mansfield has Sancho.
I meant more being a newbie to the set up it’s already quite saturated as a market and lots of teams have stunning first XIs and excellent youth meaning there’s very little now available and about.

Other than punting on new players...

This is arguably exhasebated by those same clubs going for talents who would be nowhere near their first XI and are inferior to their youth talents yet because they have the cash they go in for them regardless.
 

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I meant more being a newbie to the set up it’s already quite saturated as a market and lots of teams have stunning first XIs and excellent youth meaning there’s very little now available and about.

Other than punting on new players...

This is arguably exhasebated by those same clubs going for talents who would be nowhere near their first XI and are inferior to their youth talents yet because they have the cash they go in for them regardless.
But that is what makes this league so entertaining, at least for me. It's difficult in the transfer market, so when you do land a player or two it means a heck of a lot more.
 

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Season 15/16
Season 16/17
Season 17/18

Week 1-10
Week 11
Week 12
Week 13
Week 14
Week 15
Week 16

¦

8.10 - Gianluigi Donnarumma (19/90) ¦ 90mins

7.70 - Wilfred Ndidi (22/89) ¦ 90mins
7.17 - Alessandro Bastoni (19/80) ¦ 90mins
7.10 - Matteo Politano (25/89) ¦ 90mins
6.68 - Lucas Torreira (22/89) ¦ 90mins
6.63 - Andy Robertson (24/89) ¦ 82mins
6.60 - [Irrelevant point] (27/91) ¦ 90mins
6.29 - Piotr Zielinski (24/91) ¦ 90mins
6.21 - Krzysztof Piatek (23/87) ¦ 90mins

5.08 - Rodrigo Bentancur (21/89) ¦ 53mins


Didn't Play:
Bench

Eddie Nketiah (19/78)

U21
Pontus Dahlberg (19/82)
Pablo Moreno (16/67)

Not in the squad
Moise Kean (18/82)

Injured
Joe Gomez (21/87)

Suspended
Sandro Tonali (18/82)

No Match
Nacho Fernandez (28/90)
Ousmane Dembele (21/90)
Santiago Arias (26/89)
Sebastien Haller (24/89)
Lucas Tousart (21/89)
Dayot Upamecano (20/89)
Kai Havertz (19/89)
Yeray Alvarez (23/88)
Borja Iglesias (25/87)
Matthijs de Ligt (19/86)
Federico Valverde (20/85)
Dodi Lukebakio (21/83)
Nikola Moro (20/83)
Dan-Axel Zagadou (19/83)
Hannes Wolf (19/83)
Abdulkadir Omur (19/82)
Boubakary Soumare (19/82)
Emerson (19/80)
Moussa Diaby (19/80)
Svetozar Markovic (18/80)
Manuel Morlanes (19/78)
Lenny Pintor (18/78)
Gian-Luca Itter (19/77)
Facundo Milan (17/76)
Alanzinho (18/75)
William Saliba (17/75)
Mateu Morey (18/73)
Sebastian Caceres (19/72)
Gustavo Viera (18/72)
Riqui Puig (19/70)
Mitchel Bakker (18/70)
Nicolas Kuhn (18/70)
Vitao (18/70)
Wouter Burger (17/70)
Ajdin Hasic (17/70)
Lamine Diaby (17/70)
Brandon Soppy (16/70)
Ryan Gravenberch (16/70)

Summary:
Players: 16
Played Ratio: 63%
Average Mins: 86mins
Average Rating: 6.76
Goals: 0
Assists: 0
Yellows: 4
Reds: 1
 

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Lost to Darlington without Ramos as expected. Now I'm missing Kroos for the Sunderland game through injury.

De Gea (95)

Kimmich (92) Boateng (93) Alaba (93) Gaya (90)
Eriksen (93) Pogba (93)
Sterling (92) Kroos (95) Isco (93)
Griezmann (95)

Subs: Roberto (91), Christensen (90), Stones (90), Dele (92), Brandt (90), Martial (90), Mbappe (93)
Injured: Ramos (95)
Did not travel: Goretzka (91), Shaw (88) - if anyone wants to loan Shaw for the remaining games, feel free.

Key:
⚽ = Goal
➕ = Assist
⭐ = MOTM
= Subbed off
= Subbed on


Next three games:
MD33: Sunderland (H)
CCR2L2: Real Betis (A)
MD34: Hereford (A)
 

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Darlington games (67)
08th: Wolves (a)
06th: Arsenal (h)
20th: Plymouth Argyle (a)
07th: Nottingham Forest (h)
04th: Man City (a)
15th: Fulham (a)

Everton games (65)

10th: Chelsea (h)
18th: Blackburn Rovers (a)
14th: Bournemouth (h)
17th: Reading (a)
13th: Barnsley (h)
19th: Spurs (a)

Everton with the better remaining games by far. Title still looking like it is heading to Merseyside (like real life :()
 

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Solid 1:0 victory v Sunderland without Kroos. Isco is suspended for the next league game against @RedSky's high-flying Hereford.

De Gea (95)

Kimmich (92) Ramos (95) Boateng (93) Alaba (93)
Goretzka (91)➕ Eriksen (93)
Sterling (92) Griezmann (95) Isco (93)
Mbappe (93)⚽⭐

Subs: Roberto (91), Christensen (90), Stones (90), Dele (92), Brandt (90), Martial (90), Pogba (93)
Injured: Kroos (95)
Did not travel: Gaya (90)

Key:
⚽ = Goal
➕ = Assist
⭐ = MOTM
= Subbed off
= Subbed on


Next three games:
CCR2L2: Real Betis (A)
MD34: Hereford (A)
MD35: Southampton (H)
 

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DRAFT (WEST HAM UNITED)
  1. Kidderminster Harriers - Reece Oxford (£3.6M) - latest by 28-Dec @syrian_scholes
  2. Derby County - Daley Blind (£17,244,000) - latest by 29-Dec @langster
  3. Norwich City - Marcus Edwards (£600K) - latest by 30-Dec @It's a farce!
  4. Manchester City - Monteiro Felipe (£14,915,613) - latest by 3-Jan @gaz1185
  • Kidderminster and Derby miss out.
  • Norwich done a while back.
  • City bid accepted.
Will withdraw from West Ham after the City deal is completed.
 

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Season 15/16
Season 16/17
Season 17/18

Week 1-10
Week 11
Week 12
Week 13
Week 14
Week 15
Week 16
Week 16.5

¦

7.49 - Piotr Zielinski (24/91) ¦ 90mins
7.28 - Wilfred Ndidi (22/89) ¦ 90mins
6.92 - [Irrelevant point] (27/91) ¦ 90mins

6.84 - Matteo Politano (25/89) ¦ 90mins
6.81 - Andy Robertson (24/89) ¦ 83mins

6.65 - Krzysztof Piatek (23/87) ¦ 90mins

6.49 - Alessandro Bastoni (19/80) ¦ 90mins
6.38 - Gianluigi Donnarumma (19/90) ¦ 90mins
5.82 - Lucas Torreira (22/89) ¦ 90mins
n/a - Sandro Tonali (18/82) ¦ 90mins

Didn't Play:
Bench

Moise Kean (18/82)

U21
Pontus Dahlberg (19/82)
Pablo Moreno (16/67)

Not in the squad
Eddie Nketiah (19/78)

Injured
Joe Gomez (21/87)

Suspended
Rodrigo Bentancur (21/89)

No Match
Nacho Fernandez (28/90)
Ousmane Dembele (21/90)
Santiago Arias (26/89)
Sebastien Haller (24/89)
Lucas Tousart (21/89)
Dayot Upamecano (20/89)
Kai Havertz (19/89)
Yeray Alvarez (23/88)
Borja Iglesias (25/87)
Matthijs de Ligt (19/86)
Federico Valverde (20/85)
Dodi Lukebakio (21/83)
Nikola Moro (20/83)
Dan-Axel Zagadou (19/83)
Hannes Wolf (19/83)
Abdulkadir Omur (19/82)
Boubakary Soumare (19/82)
Emerson (19/80)
Moussa Diaby (19/80)
Svetozar Markovic (18/80)
Manuel Morlanes (19/78)
Lenny Pintor (18/78)
Gian-Luca Itter (19/77)
Facundo Milan (17/76)
Alanzinho (18/75)
William Saliba (17/75)
Mateu Morey (18/73)
Sebastian Caceres (19/72)
Gustavo Viera (18/72)
Riqui Puig (19/70)
Mitchel Bakker (18/70)
Nicolas Kuhn (18/70)
Vitao (18/70)
Wouter Burger (17/70)
Ajdin Hasic (17/70)
Lamine Diaby (17/70)
Brandon Soppy (16/70)
Ryan Gravenberch (16/70)

Summary:
Players: 16
Played Ratio: 63%
Average Mins: 89mins
Average Rating: 6.74
Goals: 0
Assists: 0
Yellows: 3
Reds: 0