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I already feel I’ve been pushing my luck in my criticism, I mentioned in my message to Steven the frustration we were all feeling.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) are here to talk about United's dreadful home defeat at the hands of Big Ange's Tottenham Hotspur. Should this have been the end of Ten Hag? How long does he actually have left? And does Nik finally want ETH out?!
If you think about it, with 3M views in this thread, SM has had big visibility in unfunded advertising on here and the league being dismantled would be negative for their image while continuing the 31 seasons would show to potential customers what an experience the game is so we would be deserving of having our league continue with no transfer restrictions on non-Gold members.
Can't actually argue that with Steven or Chris myself as I don't know either of them.
Easy way of them getting extra financing over the years could have been to have the 'sponsors' linked to real world companies. Have companies pay a price and at the start of each season you select from the list of sponsors what your team will be sponsored by and they get an advertising slot on the team's squad page and whatnot.
Can't actually argue that with Steven or Chris myself as I don't know either of them.
Easy way of them getting extra financing over the years could have been to have the 'sponsors' linked to real world companies. Have companies pay a price and at the start of each season you select from the list of sponsors what your team will be sponsored by and they get an advertising slot on the team's squad page and whatnot.
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I wish you were in charge.
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even more bad news
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Barca play children too much.
Is it broke at the moment? Can’t get on
I've just got on fine. Your Amrabat deal went through
Monday's shock 2:1 victory against Southend Utd:
Oblak (93)
Stones (93) Van Dijk (94) Alaba (94) Hakimi (92)↓
Rice (93) Trent (94)
Frimpong (92) -- Goretzka (92) -- Pedri (92)
Mbappe (96)
Subs: Kounde (92)↑, Zakaria (90), Disasi (89), N. Williams (91), Pulisic (91), Sancho (90), I. Williams (90)
Injured: Bellingham (95)
Did not travel: Gomes (89)
Key:
= Goal
= Assist
= MOTM
↓ = Subbed off
↑ = Subbed on
Next three games:
MD36: Darlington (A)
MD37: Cardiff City (H)
CCSFL2: Southend United (H)
Manchester United v Southend Utd fixtures this season
Oblak (93)
Stones (93) Van Dijk (94) Alaba (94) Hakimi (92)↓
Rice (93) Trent (94)
Frimpong (92) -- Goretzka (92) -- Pedri (92)
Mbappe (96)
Subs: Kounde (92)↑, Zakaria (90), Disasi (89), N. Williams (91), Pulisic (91), Sancho (90), I. Williams (90)
Injured: Bellingham (95)
Did not travel: Gomes (89)
Key:
= Goal = Assist = MOTM↓ = Subbed off
↑ = Subbed on
Next three games:
MD36: Darlington (A)
MD37: Cardiff City (H)
CCSFL2: Southend United (H)
Manchester United v Southend Utd fixtures this season
| Game | Utd Poss | Southend Utd Poss | Utd Shots (SoT) | Southend Utd Shots (SoT) | Utd Goals | Southend Utd Goals | Utd SoT Conv. | Southend Utd SoT Conv. |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
27th Apr: Utd v Southend Utd (Super Cup) | 53% | 47% | 12 (6) | 8 (2) | 1 | 2 | 16.7% | 100% |
20th Jun: Southend Utd v Utd | 56% | 44% | 12 (2) | 8 (6) | 0 | 2 | 0% | 33.3% |
25th Aug: Utd v Southend Utd | 59% | 41% | 16 (8) | 9 (3) | 1 | 1 | 12.5% | 33.3% |
26th Aug: Southend Utd v Utd (Champions Cup) | 47% | 53% | 10 (4) | 8 (3) | 2 | 1 | 50% | 33.3% |
Combined | 56.3% | 43.7% | 50 (20) | 33 (14) | 4 | 6 | 20% | 42.9% |
Latest table:
This time last season:
Alternate table where 2.5 SoT = one goal:
This time last season:
Alternate table where 2.5 SoT = one goal:
Manchester United transfers and whatnot
Confirmed
Kylian Mbappe (25/96) - Real Madrid
Zeno Debast (20/87) - Sporting
Luka Sucic (21/85) - Real Sociedad
Tom Rothe (19/83) - Union Berlin
Leo Sauer (18/76) - NAC Breda on loan
Leo Castledine (19/73) - Shrewsbury Town on loan (should probably sell)
Iker Bravo (19/73) - Udinese
Giovanni Leoni (17/73) - Parma
Close
Jadon Sancho (24/90) - Chelsea on loan
Carlos Forbs (20/80) - Wolves on loan
Confirmed
Kylian Mbappe (25/96) - Real Madrid
Zeno Debast (20/87) - Sporting
Luka Sucic (21/85) - Real Sociedad
Tom Rothe (19/83) - Union Berlin
Leo Sauer (18/76) - NAC Breda on loan
Leo Castledine (19/73) - Shrewsbury Town on loan (should probably sell)
Iker Bravo (19/73) - Udinese
Giovanni Leoni (17/73) - Parma
Close
Jadon Sancho (24/90) - Chelsea on loan
Carlos Forbs (20/80) - Wolves on loan
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Sancho is done (and 90 rated)
Will only accept it is done when the clubs confirm it.
Thursday's 2:0 victory against Darlington:
Oblak (93)
Disasi (89)↓ Van Dijk (94) Stones (93) Alaba (94)
Zakaria (90)↓ Rice (93)
Sancho (90)↓ -- Goretzka (92) -- Pedri (92)
Mbappe (96)
Subs: Kounde (92)↑, Trent (94), Hakimi (92)↑, N. Williams (91)↑, Pulisic (91), Frimpong (92), I. Williams (90)
Injured: Bellingham (95)
Did not travel: Gomes (89)
Key:
= Goal
= Assist
= MOTM
↓ = Subbed off
↑ = Subbed on
Next three games:
MD37: Cardiff City (H)
CCSFL2: Southend United (H)
MD38: Manchester City (A)
Manchester United v Darlington fixtures this season
Oblak (93)
Disasi (89)↓ Van Dijk (94) Stones (93) Alaba (94)
Zakaria (90)↓ Rice (93)
Sancho (90)↓ -- Goretzka (92) -- Pedri (92)
Mbappe (96)
Subs: Kounde (92)↑, Trent (94), Hakimi (92)↑, N. Williams (91)
↑, Pulisic (91), Frimpong (92), I. Williams (90)Injured: Bellingham (95)
Did not travel: Gomes (89)
Key:
= Goal = Assist = MOTM↓ = Subbed off
↑ = Subbed on
Next three games:
MD37: Cardiff City (H)
CCSFL2: Southend United (H)
MD38: Manchester City (A)
Manchester United v Darlington fixtures this season
| Game | Utd Poss | Darlington Poss | Utd Shots (SoT) | Darlington Shots (SoT) | Utd Goals | Darlington Goals | Utd SoT Conv. | Darlington SoT Conv. |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
23rd Jun: Utd v Darlington | 58% | 42% | 16 (6) | 14 (7) | 1 | 3 | 16.7% | 42.9% |
29th Aug: Darlington v Utd | 55% | 45% | 17 (8) | 8 (4) | 2 | 0 | 25% | 0% |
Combined | 56.5% | 43.5% | 33 (14) | 22 (11) | 3 | 3 | 21.4% | 27.3% |
Latest table:
This time last season:
Alternate table where 2.5 SoT = one goal:
This time last season:
Alternate table where 2.5 SoT = one goal:
Yesterday's shock 1:0 victory against Cardiff City:
Oblak (93)
Frimpong (92) Van Dijk (94) Kounde (92) Alaba (94)
Trent (94) Rice (93)
N. Williams (91)↓ -- Goretzka (92) -- Pedri (92)
Mbappe (96)
Subs: Disasi (89), Debast (87), Zakaria (90), Gomes (89), Pulisic (91)↑, Sancho (90), I. Williams (90)
Injured: Bellingham (95), Stones (93)
Suspended: Hakimi (92)
Key:
= Goal
= Assist
= MOTM
↓ = Subbed off
↑ = Subbed on
Next three games:
CCSFL2: Southend United (H)
MD38: Manchester City (A)
Manchester United v Cardiff City fixtures this season
Oblak (93)
Frimpong (92) Van Dijk (94) Kounde (92) Alaba (94)
Trent (94) Rice (93)
N. Williams (91)
↓ -- Goretzka (92) -- Pedri (92)Mbappe (96)
Subs: Disasi (89), Debast (87), Zakaria (90), Gomes (89), Pulisic (91)↑, Sancho (90), I. Williams (90)
Injured: Bellingham (95), Stones (93)
Suspended: Hakimi (92)
Key:
= Goal = Assist = MOTM↓ = Subbed off
↑ = Subbed on
Next three games:
CCSFL2: Southend United (H)
MD38: Manchester City (A)
Manchester United v Cardiff City fixtures this season
| Game | Utd Poss | Cardiff City Poss | Utd Shots (SoT) | Cardiff City Shots (SoT) | Utd Goals | Cardiff City Goals | Utd SoT Conv. | Cardiff City SoT Conv. |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
27th Jun: Cardiff City v Utd | 57% | 43% | 13 (7) | 7 (1) | 1 | 1 | 14.3% | 100% |
1st Sep: Utd v Cardiff City | 58% | 42% | 13 (7) | 7 (0) | 1 | 0 | 14.3% | N/A |
Combined | 57.5% | 42.5% | 26 (14) | 14 (1) | 2 | 1 | 14.3% | 100% |
September update blogpost: https://www.soccermanager.com/games/soccer-manager-worlds-september-update/
I would like to start this latest blog with a huge thank you to the community.
Firstly, thank you to all the community for their patience during this Major update and some of the teething issues we have had.
We have done a lot in the August update, some which is seen by the community but also a lot that the community wouldn’t have seen. We have made some fairly significant changes to the game and also some very big updates to the backend of the game around the code base and the infrastructure.
This work has been necessary to lay the foundations for future updates that we have planned, including more work on squashing bugs, improving the interface and importantly new features.
Secondly, we have been really pleased with the uptake of Gold Membership, way ahead of our expectations. So thank you to everyone who has directly contributed to supporting the game and putting the game on a firmer footing for years to come.
Due to your direct support and passion for the game, we can now announce, that due to this really good uptake, we can now continue at pace with the road map we have laid out.
Therefore, moving onto the plans for this month and based on the results of the ‘Next Feature’ poll, we will focus out efforts on fixing more bugs and looking to improve the Transfer System.
We will put a new poll out shortly for the Gold Members to decide on what order we work on the following:
Improving unmanaged Club AI
Bigger deals
Complex deals
Improving unmanaged Club AI
We would like to make the unmanaged clubs (AI) more intelligent and active in the transfer market by working on the following changes.
Allow the AI to seek out players that they need and/or would improve their teams
Allow the AI to spend more (based on their cash balance) to put competitive offers in for players
Allow the AI to repsond and negotiate deals with users
Improve the AI so they will only sell their better players or young players for very tempting offers
Improve the AI so they will take into account player potential and use that in their logic on player values and deals
Allow users to construct deals with AI clubs using players
AI clubs will only take players on loan if they are good enough to play
Bigger Deals
Allow users to put together bigger deals rather than just one player in and two out
Allow users to offer more than two players in a deal
Allow users to offer to buy more than one player in a deal
Allow users to offer a player to a club (not just clubs interested) and including players you would want in the deal
Complex Deals
Introduce a whole range of options into deals such as:
Introduce ‘Loan to Buy’ deals
Introduce multi year loan deals
Introduce ‘Sell on clauses’
Introduce paying in instalment deals
Introduce extra payments on a range of criteria such as appearances, goals etc
Negotiating which club pays the players wages (or %) for a loan deal
We will put this New Poll out shortly and leave it running for a number of weeks to get feedback. We will also join the debates in Discord to gleam feedback and to shape how these features will work.
Below is a broader list of improvements we want to work on over the coming months.
Finally, as we finish off ironing out the teething issues and continue to fix bugs, we will start promoting the game to past members and new members with the aim of bringing on lots of new users to add to this unique and exceptional community and game.
Chris Gore
CEO & Founder
Firstly, thank you to all the community for their patience during this Major update and some of the teething issues we have had.
We have done a lot in the August update, some which is seen by the community but also a lot that the community wouldn’t have seen. We have made some fairly significant changes to the game and also some very big updates to the backend of the game around the code base and the infrastructure.
This work has been necessary to lay the foundations for future updates that we have planned, including more work on squashing bugs, improving the interface and importantly new features.
Secondly, we have been really pleased with the uptake of Gold Membership, way ahead of our expectations. So thank you to everyone who has directly contributed to supporting the game and putting the game on a firmer footing for years to come.
Due to your direct support and passion for the game, we can now announce, that due to this really good uptake, we can now continue at pace with the road map we have laid out.
Therefore, moving onto the plans for this month and based on the results of the ‘Next Feature’ poll, we will focus out efforts on fixing more bugs and looking to improve the Transfer System.
We will put a new poll out shortly for the Gold Members to decide on what order we work on the following:
Improving unmanaged Club AI
Bigger deals
Complex deals
Improving unmanaged Club AI
We would like to make the unmanaged clubs (AI) more intelligent and active in the transfer market by working on the following changes.
Allow the AI to seek out players that they need and/or would improve their teams
Allow the AI to spend more (based on their cash balance) to put competitive offers in for players
Allow the AI to repsond and negotiate deals with users
Improve the AI so they will only sell their better players or young players for very tempting offers
Improve the AI so they will take into account player potential and use that in their logic on player values and deals
Allow users to construct deals with AI clubs using players
AI clubs will only take players on loan if they are good enough to play
Bigger Deals
Allow users to put together bigger deals rather than just one player in and two out
Allow users to offer more than two players in a deal
Allow users to offer to buy more than one player in a deal
Allow users to offer a player to a club (not just clubs interested) and including players you would want in the deal
Complex Deals
Introduce a whole range of options into deals such as:
Introduce ‘Loan to Buy’ deals
Introduce multi year loan deals
Introduce ‘Sell on clauses’
Introduce paying in instalment deals
Introduce extra payments on a range of criteria such as appearances, goals etc
Negotiating which club pays the players wages (or %) for a loan deal
We will put this New Poll out shortly and leave it running for a number of weeks to get feedback. We will also join the debates in Discord to gleam feedback and to shape how these features will work.
Below is a broader list of improvements we want to work on over the coming months.
Finally, as we finish off ironing out the teething issues and continue to fix bugs, we will start promoting the game to past members and new members with the aim of bringing on lots of new users to add to this unique and exceptional community and game.
Chris Gore
CEO & Founder
In my unbiased opinion, everyone nominated should be at least 92 rated.
Monday's shock 4:2 victory against Southend Utd:
Oblak (93)
Kounde (92) Van Dijk (94) Alaba (94) Hakimi (92)
Trent (94) Rice (93)
N. Williams (91)↓ -- Bellingham (95) -- Pedri (92)
Mbappe (96)
Subs: Disasi (89), Zakaria (90), Gomes (89), Pulisic (91)↑, Goretzka (92), Sancho (90), I. Williams (90)
Injured: Stones (93)
Suspended: Frimpong (92)
Key:
= Goal
= Assist
= MOTM
↓ = Subbed off
↑ = Subbed on
Next three games:
MD38: Manchester City (A)
CCF: Cardiff City (N)
Manchester United v Southend Utd fixtures this season
Oblak (93)
Kounde (92) Van Dijk (94) Alaba (94) Hakimi (92)
Trent (94) Rice (93)
N. Williams (91)
↓ -- Bellingham (95) -- Pedri (92)Mbappe (96)
Subs: Disasi (89), Zakaria (90), Gomes (89), Pulisic (91)↑, Goretzka (92), Sancho (90), I. Williams (90)
Injured: Stones (93)
Suspended: Frimpong (92)
Key:
= Goal = Assist = MOTM↓ = Subbed off
↑ = Subbed on
Next three games:
MD38: Manchester City (A)
CCF: Cardiff City (N)
Manchester United v Southend Utd fixtures this season
| Game | Utd Poss | Southend Utd Poss | Utd Shots (SoT) | Southend Utd Shots (SoT) | Utd Goals | Southend Utd Goals | Utd SoT Conv. | Southend Utd SoT Conv. |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
27th Apr: Utd v Southend Utd (Super Cup) | 53% | 47% | 12 (6) | 8 (2) | 1 | 2 | 16.7% | 100% |
20th Jun: Southend Utd v Utd | 56% | 44% | 12 (2) | 8 (6) | 0 | 2 | 0% | 33.3% |
25th Aug: Utd v Southend Utd | 59% | 41% | 16 (8) | 9 (3) | 1 | 1 | 12.5% | 33.3% |
26th Aug: Southend Utd v Utd (Champions Cup) | 47% | 53% | 10 (4) | 8 (3) | 2 | 1 | 50% | 33.3% |
2nd Sep: Utd v Southend Utd (Champions Cup) | 58% | 42% | 19 (9) | 5 (2) | 4 | 2 | 44.4% | 100% |
Combined | 54.6% | 45.4% | 69 (29) | 38 (16) | 8 | 8 | 27.6% | 50% |
Latest table:
This time last season:
Alternate table where 2.5 SoT = one goal:
This time last season:
Alternate table where 2.5 SoT = one goal:
Thursday's 0:0 draw against Manchester City:
Oblak (93)
Santos (87) Debast (87) Disasi (89) Bella-Kotchap (86)
Zakaria (90) Gomes (89)
N. Williams (91) -- Sancho (90) -- Pulisic (91)
I. Williams (90)
Subs: Araujo (82), Rothe (83), Martinelli (84), Forbs (80), Sucic (85), Reyna (87), Yeo (76)
Injured: Stones (93)
Did not travel: Mbappe (96), Bellingham (95), Van Dijk (94), Alaba (94), Trent (94), Stones (93), Rice (93), Kounde (92), Hakimi (92), Goretzka (92), Pedri (92), Frimpong (92)
Key:
= Goal
= Assist
= MOTM
↓ = Subbed off
↑ = Subbed on
Next three games:
CCF: Cardiff City (N)
Manchester United v Manchester City fixtures this season
Oblak (93)
Santos (87) Debast (87) Disasi (89) Bella-Kotchap (86)
Zakaria (90) Gomes (89)
N. Williams (91) -- Sancho (90) -- Pulisic (91)
I. Williams (90)
Subs: Araujo (82), Rothe (83), Martinelli (84), Forbs (80), Sucic (85), Reyna (87), Yeo (76)
Injured: Stones (93)
Did not travel: Mbappe (96), Bellingham (95), Van Dijk (94), Alaba (94), Trent (94), Stones (93), Rice (93), Kounde (92), Hakimi (92), Goretzka (92), Pedri (92), Frimpong (92)
Key:
= Goal = Assist = MOTM↓ = Subbed off
↑ = Subbed on
Next three games:
CCF: Cardiff City (N)
Manchester United v Manchester City fixtures this season
| Game | Utd Poss | Manchester City Poss | Utd Shots (SoT) | Manchester City Shots (SoT) | Utd Goals | Manchester City Goals | Utd SoT Conv. | Manchester City SoT Conv. |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
30th Jun: Utd v Man City | 67% | 33% | 18 (8) | 7 (1) | 5 | 0 | 62.5% | 0% |
5th Sep: Man City v Utd | 54% | 46% | 9 (2) | 9 (5) | 0 | 0 | 0% | 0% |
Combined | 60.5% | 39.5% | 27 (10) | 16 (6) | 5 | 0 | 50% | 0% |
Final table:
This time last season:
Alternate table where 2.5 SoT = one goal:
This time last season:
Alternate table where 2.5 SoT = one goal:
Final two trophies in contention this season:
SMFA Champions Cup
(6) Cardiff City v Manchester United (48)
SMFA Shield
(9) Aston Villa v Newcastle United (4)
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Cardiff City - The Golden Generation?
A little update from Cardiff.
Real Life Transfers Confirmed:
- João Palhinha (29/91) - Bayern
- Seiya Maikuma (26/82) - AZ Alkmaar
- Pascal Gross (33/90) - Dortmund
- Alcantara Thiago (33/92) - Retired
- Sebastian Nanasi (22/85) - RC Strasbourg
- Moussa Diaby (25/91) - Al Ittihad
- Raheem Sterling (29/91) - Arsenal (Loan)
- Fabio Silva (22/84) - Las Palmas (Loan)
- Felipe Endrick (18/87) - Real Madrid
- Mohamed Hamony (18/65) - Girona
- Micah Hamilton (20/73) - Middlesbrough
- Miloš Luković (18/80) - RC Strasbourg
- Damián Pizarro (19/82) - Udinese
- Alejo Véliz (20/84) - Espanyol (Loan)
- Plamen Andreev (19/80) - Feyenoord
- Isaak Toure (21/83) - Udinese (Loan)
- Kacper Kozlowksi (20/83) - Gaziantep FK
Barcelona youth talents and injuries are regular occurences. Know it the hardway.
Was a close game but scored a later winner to get a 1:0 victory against Cardiff City in the Champions Cup final:
Oblak (93)
Stones (93) Van Dijk (94) Alaba (94) Hakimi (92)↓
Rice (93) Trent (94)
N. Williams (91)↓ -- Bellingham (95) -- Pedri (92)
Mbappe (96)
Subs: Kounde (92)↑, Frimpong (92)↑, Zakaria (90), I. Williams (90), Goretzka (92), Sancho (90), Pulisic (91)
Did not travel: Disasi (89), Gomes (89)
Key:
= Goal
= Assist
= MOTM
↓ = Subbed off
↑ = Subbed on
Manchester United v Cardiff City fixtures this season
Oblak (93)
Stones (93)
Van Dijk (94) Alaba (94) Hakimi (92)↓Rice (93) Trent (94)
N. Williams (91)↓ -- Bellingham (95) -- Pedri (92)
Mbappe (96)
Subs: Kounde (92)↑, Frimpong (92)↑, Zakaria (90), I. Williams (90), Goretzka (92), Sancho (90), Pulisic (91)
Did not travel: Disasi (89), Gomes (89)
Key:
= Goal = Assist = MOTM↓ = Subbed off
↑ = Subbed on
Manchester United v Cardiff City fixtures this season
| Game | Utd Poss | Cardiff City Poss | Utd Shots (SoT) | Cardiff City Shots (SoT) | Utd Goals | Cardiff City Goals | Utd SoT Conv. | Cardiff City SoT Conv. |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
27th Jun: Cardiff City v Utd | 57% | 43% | 13 (7) | 7 (1) | 1 | 1 | 14.3% | 100% |
1st Sep: Utd v Cardiff City | 58% | 42% | 13 (7) | 7 (0) | 1 | 0 | 14.3% | N/A |
10th Sep: Cardiff City v Utd (Champions Cup final) | 57% | 43% | 14 (5) | 6 (2) | 1 | 0 | 20% | 0% |
Combined | 57.3% | 42.7% | 40 (19) | 20 (3) | 3 | 1 | 15.8% | 33.3% |
Honours end of Season 31 (just before Gold)
New
United/Everton are the United/Liverpool of the league, but I think Everton will equalise next season
United are the Real Madrid of the Champions Cup
Newcastle are the Sevilla of the SMFA Shield
Power Rankings
There we go! Full spreadsheet here
Complete list of clubs who have been #1 in PR (last 5 season average placing):
The lowest Manchester United have ever been in the Power Rankings is 3 (S14 - City was 1st and Everton was 2nd, S19 & S20 - Darlington was 1st and Everton was 2nd). Tottenham Hotspur remain the only side to be 1st in the power rankings without winning the league.
| Curr PR | Prev PR | Chng | Team Name | Worst Finish | Best Finish | Last 5 Season Avg. | 30 Season Avg. |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 1 | - | Everton | 16 | 1 | 3.4 | 5.1 |
| 2 | 1 | ▼ 1 | Manchester United | 12 | 1 | 4.0 | 3.5 |
| 3 | 3 | - | Nottingham Forest | 28 | 1 | 5.2 | 7.6 |
| 4 | 6 | ▲ 2 | Southend United | 81 | 2 | 5.4 | 31.3 |
| 5 | 5 | - | Aston Villa | 17 | 1 | 5.8 | 9.2 |
| 6 | 4 | ▼ 2 | Cardiff City | 43 | 2 | 6.6 | 22.6 |
| 7 | 7 | - | Hereford | 100 | 4 | 7.8 | 46.4 |
| 8 | 9 | ▲ 1 | Newcastle United | 23 | 2 | 8.0 | 10.5 |
| 9 | 8 | ▼ 1 | Liverpool | 26 | 2 | 8.8 | 12.9 |
| 10 | 10 | - | Middlesbrough | 42 | 6 | 9.6 | 20.8 |
| 11 | 13 | ▲ 2 | Fulham | 22 | 2 | 10.0 | 11.2 |
| 12 | 14 | ▲ 2 | Wolverhampton Wanderers | 24 | 3 | 11.6 | 13.8 |
| 13 | 12 | ▼ 1 | Leyton Orient | 97 | 7 | 12.0 | 54.6 |
| 14 | 11 | ▼ 3 | Norwich City | 37 | 5 | 12.6 | 21.3 |
| 15 | 18 | ▲ 3 | Darlington | 81 | 1 | 15.8 | 15.9 |
| 16 | 15 | ▲ 1 | Sunderland | 31 | 3 | 17.2 | 12.8 |
| 17 | 17 | - | West Ham United | 41 | 15 | 18.4 | 25.5 |
| 18 | 16 | ▼ 2 | Arsenal | 26 | 1 | 19.0 | 8.1 |
| 19 | 22 | ▲ 3 | Bournemouth | 69 | 7 | 21.2 | 28.0 |
| 20 | 21 | ▲ 1 | Milton Keynes Dons | 63 | 4 | 21.4 | 22.3 |
| 21 | 24 | ▲ 3 | Southampton | 45 | 10 | 22.0 | 22.1 |
| 22 | 23 | ▲ 1 | Leeds United | 42 | 8 | 22.2 | 27.5 |
| 23 | 20 | ▼ 3 | Kidderminster Harriers | 99 | 12 | 22.8 | 53.7 |
| 24 | 19 | ▼ 5 | Chelsea | 33 | 1 | 23.2 | 13.3 |
| 26 | 26 | - | Bristol City | 43 | 13 | 24.4 | 26.9 |
| 27 | 27 | - | Manchester City | 32 | 1 | 24.6 | 12.3 |
| 28 | 28 | - | Blackburn Rovers | 41 | 1 | 27.4 | 22.4 |
| 29 | 30 | ▲ 1 | Barnsley | 57 | 5 | 27.6 | 30.1 |
| 30 | 29 | ▼ 1 | Tottenham Hotspur | 35 | 2 | 31.2 | 15.3 |
| 34 | 41 | ▲ 7 | Bradford City | 81 | 20 | 35.6 | 58.6 |
| 37 | 35 | ▼ 2 | Sheffield United | 56 | 32 | 37.2 | 40.2 |
| 37 | 38 | ▲ 1 | Queens Park Rangers | 47 | 5 | 37.2 | 28.8 |
| 41 | 47 | ▲ 6 | Ipswich Town | 54 | 15 | 42.2 | 29.7 |
| 52 | 50 | ▼ 2 | Reading | 54 | 6 | 49.6 | 31.0 |
| 54 | 61 | ▲ 7 | Rochdale | 89 | 31 | 51.4 | 68.2 |
| 73 | 65 | ▼ 8 | Bury | 87 | 20 | 73.0 | 44.9 |
| 98 | 100 | ▲ 2 | Torquay United | 100 | 80 | 96.2 | 94.2 |
There we go! Full spreadsheet here
Complete list of clubs who have been #1 in PR (last 5 season average placing):
S05: Manchester United
S06: Manchester City
S07: Manchester United
S08: Manchester United
S09: Manchester United
S10: Tottenham Hotspur
S11: Manchester United
S12: Manchester City & Manchester United (joint 1st)
S13: Manchester City
S14: Manchester City
S15: Manchester United
S16: Everton
S17: Everton
S18: Everton
S19: Darlington
S20: Darlington
S21: Darlington
S22: Everton
S23: Everton
S24: Everton & Manchester United (joint 1st)
S25: Manchester United
S26: Everton
S27: Manchester United
S28: Manchester United
S29: Nottingham Forest
S30: Everton & Manchester United (joint 1st)
S31: Everton
S06: Manchester City
S07: Manchester United
S08: Manchester United
S09: Manchester United
S10: Tottenham Hotspur
S11: Manchester United
S12: Manchester City & Manchester United (joint 1st)
S13: Manchester City
S14: Manchester City
S15: Manchester United
S16: Everton
S17: Everton
S18: Everton
S19: Darlington
S20: Darlington
S21: Darlington
S22: Everton
S23: Everton
S24: Everton & Manchester United (joint 1st)
S25: Manchester United
S26: Everton
S27: Manchester United
S28: Manchester United
S29: Nottingham Forest
S30: Everton & Manchester United (joint 1st)
S31: Everton
The lowest Manchester United have ever been in the Power Rankings is 3 (S14 - City was 1st and Everton was 2nd, S19 & S20 - Darlington was 1st and Everton was 2nd). Tottenham Hotspur remain the only side to be 1st in the power rankings without winning the league.
Division 1 top flight records tables (new entries this season/ongoing streaks in light purple)
Division 2 records table (new entries this season in light purple)
Division 3 records table (new entries this season in light purple)
Division 4 records table (new entries this season in light purple)
Division 5 records table (new entries this season in light purple)
Thank you to each and every one of you for being part of the league. Without you all, this wouldn't have lasted as long as it has done so far.
And congrats to @IRN-BRUno for blowing the goals scored and conceded records out of the water. Didn't think they'd be beaten any time soon.
Division 2 records table (new entries this season in light purple)
Division 3 records table (new entries this season in light purple)
Division 4 records table (new entries this season in light purple)
Division 5 records table (new entries this season in light purple)
Thank you to each and every one of you for being part of the league. Without you all, this wouldn't have lasted as long as it has done so far.
And congrats to @IRN-BRUno for blowing the goals scored and conceded records out of the water. Didn't think they'd be beaten any time soon.
Visualisations
Cumulative Division 1 points
Cumulative Division 1 points
- Manchester United have been top on cumulative points since Season 6.
- Sunderland and Fulham have overtaken Chelsea on Division 1 goals.
- Manchester United have been top on cumulative goals since Season 1, though Everton aim to overtake this in the next couple of seasons.
- Everton (S12 to S20 inclusive) and Manchester United (S20 to S28 inclusive) had the longest streak of cumulative Top 4 finishes.
- 21 teams have finished in the Top 4, with Southend United being the latest in Season 28.
- Manchester United have been top/joint top on Top 4 finishes since Season 1.
- 30 teams have won at least one major honour with Southampton being the latest side to do so in Season 29.
- Manchester United have been top/joint top on major honours won since Season 9, earning the same number of trophies as 21 sides on the above graphic combined (49).
31 Seasons of the RedCafe League: All-time Division 1 standings.
Most
Games Played: 1178 (Aston Villa, Everton and Manchester United)
Overall Wins: 672 (Manchester United)
Overall Draws: 277 (Arsenal)
Overall Losses: 432 (Aston Villa)
Overall Goals For: 2295 (Manchester United)
Overall Goals Against: 1652 (Aston Villa)
Overall Goal Difference: +929 (Manchester United)
Overall Points: 2248 (Manchester United)
Home Wins: 343 (Manchester United)
Home Draws: 142 (Arsenal)
Home Losses: 211 (Aston Villa)
Home Goals For: 1215 (Everton)
Home Goals Against: 818 (Aston Villa)
Home Goal Difference: +531 (Everton)
Home Points: 1142 (Manchester United) - Everton are just two behind!!
Away Wins: 329 (Manchester United)
Away Draws: 137 (Fulham)
Away Losses: 223 (Wolverhampton Wanderers)
Away Goals For: 1117 (Manchester United)
Away Goals Against: 834 (Aston Villa)
Away Goal Difference: +444 (Manchester United)
Away Points: 1106 (Manchester United)
Top 5 Overall Win %
Most
Games Played: 1178 (Aston Villa, Everton and Manchester United)
Overall Wins: 672 (Manchester United)
Overall Draws: 277 (Arsenal)
Overall Losses: 432 (Aston Villa)
Overall Goals For: 2295 (Manchester United)
Overall Goals Against: 1652 (Aston Villa)
Overall Goal Difference: +929 (Manchester United)
Overall Points: 2248 (Manchester United)
Home Wins: 343 (Manchester United)
Home Draws: 142 (Arsenal)
Home Losses: 211 (Aston Villa)
Home Goals For: 1215 (Everton)
Home Goals Against: 818 (Aston Villa)
Home Goal Difference: +531 (Everton)
Home Points: 1142 (Manchester United) - Everton are just two behind!!
Away Wins: 329 (Manchester United)
Away Draws: 137 (Fulham)
Away Losses: 223 (Wolverhampton Wanderers)
Away Goals For: 1117 (Manchester United)
Away Goals Against: 834 (Aston Villa)
Away Goal Difference: +444 (Manchester United)
Away Points: 1106 (Manchester United)
Top 5 Overall Win %
- Manchester United - 57.05% (672/1178)
- Everton - 54.84% (646/1178)
- Manchester City - 49.52% (414/836)
- Nottingham Forest - 48.12% (512/1064)
- Arsenal - 45.82% (505/1102)
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Thanks @Damien I personally really appreciate the effort you put in to all of this....just as a question...are you soon to be making this type of analysis pay per view based on the current game model? 
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We’re still 45.6% despite having by far the most inferior squad of all above us.31 Seasons of the RedCafe League: All-time Division 1 standings.
Most
Games Played: 1178 (Aston Villa, Everton and Manchester United)
Overall Wins: 672 (Manchester United)
Overall Draws: 277 (Arsenal)
Overall Losses: 432 (Aston Villa)
Overall Goals For: 2295 (Manchester United)
Overall Goals Against: 1652 (Aston Villa)
Overall Goal Difference: +929 (Manchester United)
Overall Points: 2248 (Manchester United)
Home Wins: 343 (Manchester United)
Home Draws: 142 (Arsenal)
Home Losses: 211 (Aston Villa)
Home Goals For: 1215 (Everton)
Home Goals Against: 818 (Aston Villa)
Home Goal Difference: +531 (Everton)
Home Points: 1142 (Manchester United) - Everton are just two behind!!
Away Wins: 329 (Manchester United)
Away Draws: 137 (Fulham)
Away Losses: 223 (Wolverhampton Wanderers)
Away Goals For: 1117 (Manchester United)
Away Goals Against: 834 (Aston Villa)
Away Goal Difference: +444 (Manchester United)
Away Points: 1106 (Manchester United)
Top 5 Overall Win %
Cardiff fall out of the top five after a dismal season. Arsenal come back into it despite facing last season in Division 2.
- Manchester United - 57.05% (672/1178)
- Everton - 54.84% (646/1178)
- Manchester City - 49.52% (414/836)
- Nottingham Forest - 48.12% (512/1064)
- Arsenal - 45.82% (505/1102)
17th place in the all time league with only 456 games 90 games less than the next club directly above us.
Proud of that.
Actually 190 games fewer than Middlesbrough. Yeah you've done brilliant.
You're welcomeThanks @Damien I personally really appreciate the effort you put in to all of this....just as a question...are you soon to be making this type of analysis pay per view based on the current game model?
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I mean the United dominance is sickeningly admirable.Actually 190 games fewer than Middlesbrough. Yeah you've done brilliant.
You're welcome
To be on top for so long the wheeling and dealing must have been epic.
Definitely made a lot of mistakes in the time but letting Vinicius go is probably my biggest regret, with swapping Kimmich for Trent and Bellingham on par with signing Mbappe uncontested for the best deal.
I started off at Leeds United in season 1, already well on my way to building the squad when Zarlak left United in season 2(?). Took over there but made the choice to uproot a fair chunk of the side he built as, while a lot of the players were high rated, they were also very old and had to make some decisions very quick like selling Buffon and starting De Gea when he was still developing as he was getting playing concerns.
Hardest bit is knowing when to rebuild and making the moves before it is too late. It is certainly a lot tougher these days. I think I've done a good few successful rebuilds but the current one isn't going so well.
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I’ve had a little scroll through the top deals in the GW history (annoying that pure P/E is not listed) but have to say the Kimmich for Bellignham and Trent stands out with the power of hindsight as the best deal.
31 Seasons of the RedCafe League: All-time Division 1 standings.
Most
Games Played: 1178 (Aston Villa, Everton and Manchester United)
Overall Wins: 672 (Manchester United)
Overall Draws: 277 (Arsenal)
Overall Losses: 432 (Aston Villa)
Overall Goals For: 2295 (Manchester United)
Overall Goals Against: 1652 (Aston Villa)
Overall Goal Difference: +929 (Manchester United)
Overall Points: 2248 (Manchester United)
Home Wins: 343 (Manchester United)
Home Draws: 142 (Arsenal)
Home Losses: 211 (Aston Villa)
Home Goals For: 1215 (Everton)
Home Goals Against: 818 (Aston Villa)
Home Goal Difference: +531 (Everton)
Home Points: 1142 (Manchester United) - Everton are just two behind!!
Away Wins: 329 (Manchester United)
Away Draws: 137 (Fulham)
Away Losses: 223 (Wolverhampton Wanderers)
Away Goals For: 1117 (Manchester United)
Away Goals Against: 834 (Aston Villa)
Away Goal Difference: +444 (Manchester United)
Away Points: 1106 (Manchester United)
Top 5 Overall Win %
Cardiff fall out of the top five after a dismal season. Arsenal come back into it despite facing last season in Division 2.
- Manchester United - 57.05% (672/1178)
- Everton - 54.84% (646/1178)
- Manchester City - 49.52% (414/836)
- Nottingham Forest - 48.12% (512/1064)
- Arsenal - 45.82% (505/1102)
Thanks for the summary.
Was hoping to break into top3 overall soon enough. Just there! Maybe another 2-3 seasons would have been enough for several stats.