Kag
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This.No.
Look, United just need to go out there and find a CB with the attributes of Baily who isn't made of glass.
This.No.
Look, United just need to go out there and find a CB with the attributes of Baily who isn't made of glass.
You are most certainly right if you want to defend like a team at the bottom of table, sittning low and heading balls away. But if you want to to defend with a higher line you need defenders who can turn and run, that´s not Maguire. The way I see it Ole wants a higher defence line and that is why I think Lindelöf and Bailly is our best centre half pair. Some times you need to kill your darlings to make progress.Absolutely wrong. Despite his transfer fee, Maguire is in fact our best centre half. He just happens to get scapegoated a lot. The question is who should partner him. You don't improve a team by getting rid of your best players. If you want Maguire on the bench then you need to get 2 centre halves who are better than him. Currently at our team those two players do not exist. Drop the agenda...
How many goals have we conceded because Maguires lost a race? Far less than he's prevented by being excellent in the air.You are most certainly right if you want to defend like a team at the bottom of table, sittning low and heading balls away. But if you want to to defend with a higher line you need defenders who can turn and run, that´s not Maguire. The way I see it Ole wants a higher defence line and that is why I think Lindelöf and Bailly is our best centre half pair. Some times you need to kill your darlings to make progress.
You're another Goldbridge muppet aren't you? This "we defend too deep" crap is just that. Crap. We are constantly holding a high line but drop off as our opponent gets possession in our end. This doesn't change whether it's Lindelof and Maguire, Bailly and Maguire or Bailly and Lindelof. Goldbridge has an agenda and looks for excuses. Just like how he always moans about "2 defensive midfielders protecting our back 4". We just got a clean sheet against Chelsea and we were NOT sitting deep. We were well at them with our FB's constantly overlapping and McFred in and around their 18. It's all agenda. I'd like to see a different partner for Maguire, but if I had a nickel for every time Maguire's pace cost us a goal, I'd have about 15 cents. His lack of pace is quite possibly the most over exaggerated problem that we have ever had.You are most certainly right if you want to defend like a team at the bottom of table, sittning low and heading balls away. But if you want to to defend with a higher line you need defenders who can turn and run, that´s not Maguire. The way I see it Ole wants a higher defence line and that is why I think Lindelöf and Bailly is our best centre half pair. Some times you need to kill your darlings to make progress.
Yup, it gets stated on here as though we have a mid 30’s Laurent Blanc at the back.His lack of pace is quite possibly the most over exaggerated problem that we have ever had.
I second this yup.
I think AWB would look much better with a proper right winger in front of him. The problem is his deficiencies in attack are clearer when he’s essentially the only one playing on the entire wing.I give you........ Aaron Wan Bissaka
His qualities are everything we're looking for in a partner for block head - he's fast, nimble, excellent in 1v1s. I'll give you he's not left footed but Harry has played LCB his whole career. He's also not the tallest but at 6ft, he's taller than Mascherano, Cannavaro and Puyol! Also taller than Ake, Alaba and Kounde.
I think long term, we need a more attacking right back to better balance our attacks so let's get AWB learning CB and bring in a Max Aarons/Tariq Lamptey.
Have I gone lockdown crazy??
Completely agree. We needed a ball playing centre back for years. Maguire is good on the ball. He can take it forward, he can pick a pass. Whether you want him to do that stuff is a different matter (I'm personally happy with him taking the ball up the pitch).How many goals have we conceded because Maguires lost a race? Far less than he's prevented by being excellent in the air.
Stones and Dias aren't exactly Usain Bolt either and look at them. There's an obsession with pace for centre backs on here, it's replaced 'we need ball playing centre back' that we heard for years.
That's one way to look at it, the more impactful reason to want a quicker center back is to play a higher line and shrink the pitch.How many goals have we conceded because Maguires lost a race? Far less than he's prevented by being excellent in the air.
Stones and Dias aren't exactly Usain Bolt either and look at them. There's an obsession with pace for centre backs on here, it's replaced 'we need ball playing centre back' that we heard for years.
I agree.Is it me or have the partnerships with lindelof alongside bailly or tuanzebe looked better than when Maguire has been their partner?
As for other potential centre back choices, shaw or mctominay(done well with Scotland) would be ahead of bissaka
KG???No one, we should sell him. And buy a new partner for Bailey/Lindelof
I know it wont happen.
I agree with him!KG???
You don't improve your team by selling your best players and Maguire is in fact our best central defender. This isn't my opinion. It's a fact...
I know many have their opinions set on Maguire but surely he’s been the better of our defenders this season.No one, we should sell him. And buy a new partner for Bailey/Lindelof
I know it wont happen.