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I'm saying nothing. Don't want to get people into troubleWhat have you heard?
I'm saying nothing. Don't want to get people into troubleWhat have you heard?
Click bait.I'm saying nothing. Don't want to get people into trouble
Those are some pretty mild comments. If that sort of stuff shouldn't be allowed, we might as well make a rule that says it's forbidden to criticize players at all. If a completely benign remark like "his allround game needs polishing" gets your blood boiling, you're the one who's wrong. Get a grip. Noone should want this place to be an echo chamber of false positivity. Rashford has been underperforming for months on end, and it's absolutely fair to say so.Here are some of the comments in the Player Performanc thread after last nights game:
"Absolutely horrific performance"
"Great goal but he was shit tonight"
"His allround game needs polishing if we want to win leagues and champions leagues"
He’s not close to robben likeRemember how awesome Robben was? He never got near to half the goals/assists that Rashford has been contributing.
Rashford's output is simply awesome. Especially for a wide forward.
He's not even taking penalties anymore.
Our problem is that no one is scoring goals up front, no one is scoring goals from the right and so for some reason the one player actually scoring across the front 3 gets questioned.
If Sancho comes and actually contributes, we'll be a totally different proposition.
You didn't meet him in a sainsbury's in east London did you?Have you met him? I've heard the opposite.
Failed striker?He’s not code to robben like
Good player but not a true winger, more a failed striker / winger so will never truly dominate for me
Yeah, I just come online to taint the image of Marcus Rashford with fake stories. Just because I won't tell some guy on RedCafe, doesn't make it not real.Click bait.
Yeah I was only messing, didn’t mean anything by it. Not a lot to say in response if you won’t spill the beans.Yeah, I just come online to taint the image of Marcus Rashford with fake stories. Just because I won't tell some guy on RedCafe, doesn't make it not real.
Well, that's exactly what you're doing.Yeah, I just come online to taint the image of Marcus Rashford with fake stories. Just because I won't tell some guy on RedCafe, doesn't make it not real.
But you haven’t met him but have heard the opposite....Have you met him? I've heard the opposite.
My apologies, I thought you were implying I was lying!Yeah I was only messing, didn’t mean anything by it. Not a lot to say in response if you won’t spill the beans.
He does a lot for charity and communities, as do many people. Doing that doesn't make them "very nice human beings", especially when they don't act like that when out of the public eye. Perhaps they simply enjoy the limelight that fighting for causes and funding charities brings (not implying that is Rashfords motive).Well, that's exactly what you're doing.
He does an immense amount for different communities within Manchester and the UK, so being coy about Rashford "not being a nice person" is bizarre behaviour, in my opinion.
That smells like one of those 'I heard it from a friend who heard from a friend' BS. I've done plenty to highlight Rashford's shortcomings in this thread but lets not go around spreading nonsense. Rashford is also only human and every human is prone to anger and irritation by fans or people in general, that's assuming you heard anything at all. Unless your name is Dalai Lama, that doesn't make anyone a bad human being.I'm saying nothing. Don't want to get people into trouble
First thing Rashford did when he earned a wage was buy his mum a house. Thats all I need to know about him. Could not care less if he told punters to piss offHe does a lot for charity and communities, as do many people. Doing that doesn't make them "very nice human beings", especially when they don't act like that when out of the public eye. Perhaps they simply enjoy the limelight that fighting for causes and funding charities brings (not implying that is Rashfords motive).
I don't feel the need to have to like a United player as a person or pretend they're great human beings when I don't know them. All I said is that I heard different. Half the scousers would tell you Gerrard was a great human being, most of us would laugh. Who gives a shit?
Did he start as a striker when coming into the team? Is he or ever will be our number 9?Failed striker?
No, but I like what I know and in my books his a good guy.Have you met him? I've heard the opposite.
Its a problem with both sides. People that praise him go over the top with epithets like "legend" and "world class". People that criticize also go over the top with "failed striker" bit. So it all depends what you are reading on a given day. Truth is somewhere in the middle. He is not terrible but also not world class. He's got 19 goals this season which is not terrible output, but only 10 of them in the league which is fairly mediocre IMO. So, again, fairly 5.5/10 overall, at least for me.I've no problems when he gets rational critisism after his performances. I can understand why he gets them, as he still can be inconsistent and frustrating during matches. The problem for me is, there is a lot of hyperbole around him when he doesn't perform that good. He can have a decent game, but one bad decision can make his performance "terrible", especially when he doesn't score or assists. Than you can bet you will see comments "he was abmysal" "absolutely dreadful" "our worst player" and so on, when he even wasn't that bad.
I feel there are fans in here who simply don't like him and are waiting for every opportunity to jump on his back. This is what i really don't understand. How can you support ManUtd and "hate" a player who represents this club perfectly and is producing regularly.
Again, rational critisism is totally okay and is needed on a internet forum, otherwise this would be a boring place. But the slack Rashford gets in here is over the top imo.
Agree to some extend. Claims that he is already a club legend or comparable to Best, Charlton etc. are equally over the top. He certainly has the tools to become a legend, but he isn't yet and no one in here can predict the future, we simply don't know how it will turn out.Its a problem with both sides. People that praise him go over the top with epithets like "legend" and "world class". People that criticize also go over the top with "failed striker" bit. So it all depends what you are reading on a given day. Truth is somewhere in the middle. He is not terrible but also not world class. He's got 19 goals this season which is not terrible output, but only 10 of them in the league which is fairly mediocre IMO. So, again, fairly 5.5/10 overall, at least for me.
At least 7.5. 5.5 is a VdB season, and you have people saying the man with 30 goal contributions this season is a 5.5. There’s a reason we are begging him to play through injury, as we have probably wrongly done for two years. No option though, he’s far better than anyone else we can play at LW (Martial, James).5.5 out of 10 heavens to betsy
I mean, I'll base my opinion on him on what he's actually done, rather than random speculation from an anonymous internet person. The reductionist argument in relation to his charity work and comparison to Stephen Gerrard are very disingenuous, I'll leave it at that.He does a lot for charity and communities, as do many people. Doing that doesn't make them "very nice human beings", especially when they don't act like that when out of the public eye. Perhaps they simply enjoy the limelight that fighting for causes and funding charities brings (not implying that is Rashfords motive).
I don't feel the need to have to like a United player as a person or pretend they're great human beings when I don't know them. All I said is that I heard different. Half the scousers would tell you Gerrard was a great human being, most of us would laugh. Who gives a shit?
In fairness, it’s understandable why someone who regards 30 GA as “not terrible” and 17 league GA from LW as “mediocre” and “5.5/10” would think people were overrating him.At least 7.5. 5.5 is a VdB season, and you have people saying the man with 30 goal contributions this season is a 5.5. There’s a reason we are begging him to play through injury, as we have probably wrongly done for two years. No option though, he’s far better than anyone else we can play at LW (Martial, James).
Yeah, but Messi’s 91 goals in 2012 was also not terrible. Cavani getting 6 PL goals this season is also not terrible. Point is, Rashford has been much better than ‘not terrible’ or ‘mediocre’ this season. Put it this way, with Martial’s laziness or Dan James not being able to control the ball on the left instead of Marcus, we’d be in a top 4 battle, like last season.In fairness, it’s understandable why someone who regards 30 GA as “not terrible” and 17 league GA from LW as “mediocre” and “5.5/10” would think people were overrating him.
Or worseYeah, but Messi’s 91 goal in 2012 were also not terrible. Cavani getting 6 PL goals this season is also not terrible. Point is, Rashford has been much better than ‘not terrible’ or ‘mediocre’ this season. Put it this way, with Martial’s laziness or Dan James not being able to control the ball on the left instead of Marcus, we’d be in a top 4 battle, like last season.
This is how I see it.Despite carrying a well publicised injury through most of the season, he's going to finish with 20+ goals and 10+ assists playing from a wide position, without taking penalties. And he's been scoring important goals against tough opposition, not like he's stat padding in easy games
I've never seen a player who some fans are just so determined to hate no matter what
Wait, people really care about the rating here? It means literally nothing. See the rating in older seasons. In 2017/2018 our highest rated player was De Gea with 6.8 average rate even though he put on a legit 9/10 season easily. In 2014/2015 he was also our best player by a country mile and his average rating here was only 6.6 and this was the highest average rating this season as well so imagine the rest.At least 7.5. 5.5 is a VdB season, and you have people saying the man with 30 goal contributions this season is a 5.5. There’s a reason we are begging him to play through injury, as we have probably wrongly done for two years. No option though, he’s far better than anyone else we can play at LW (Martial, James).
Clear misunderstanding. I was replying to the guy who said he thought Rashford was having a 5.5 season, not the Caf average ratings.Wait, people really care about the rating here? It means literally nothing. See the rating in older seasons. In 2017/2018 our highest rated player was De Gea with 6.8 average rate even though he put on a legit 9/10 season easily. In 2014/2015 he was also our best player by a country mile and his average rating here was only 6.6 and this was the highest average rating this season as well so imagine the rest.
The average rating will always be far lower than the player's deserved rating here. I myself after a shit game and having a bad mood I just splash 1s, 2s and 3s on players. Pretty sure many people do so as well, and this screws the rating.
Oh OK. Sorry about that. In fairness though Rashford actually has a 5.7 average rating here so my post can be viewed as a general take on it.Clear misunderstanding. I was replying to the guy who said he thought Rashford was having a 5.5 season, not the Caf average ratings.
That’s a ridiculous rating. Having said that, the average Caf rating for Bruno is 6.4, and mine is 6.3. Don’t think my ratings for Rashford look much better, and I can’t defend him enoughOh OK. Sorry about that. In fairness though Rashford actually has a 5.7 average rating here so my post can be viewed as a general take on it.
Well coming online to say you’ve heard he’s not very nice, to not say why and when questioned say well that doesn’t make it not true, isn’t a great argument.Yeah, I just come online to taint the image of Marcus Rashford with fake stories. Just because I won't tell some guy on RedCafe, doesn't make it not real.
Maybe 5.5 is a bit harsh, but he is no more than a 6.5 for me. 10 league goals is nothing to sneeze at but its also nothing to write home about. IMO both him and Martial hide behind 'they are not a striker but a wide player' narrative. Neither of them are capable of providing 25 league goals a season, which is IMO what you need to win the PL (generally speaking). So for a wide player I think he is doing well. But his game still has a lot of holes and improvements are needed.At least 7.5. 5.5 is a VdB season, and you have people saying the man with 30 goal contributions this season is a 5.5. There’s a reason we are begging him to play through injury, as we have probably wrongly done for two years. No option though, he’s far better than anyone else we can play at LW (Martial, James).