Hegseth also hinted earlier that he wants Ellison to take over CNN, didn't he?
The Trump Presidency : Part 2
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To the MAGA adherents this reads as Trump tackling biased liberal media. They don‘t see mainstream news outlets as independent, or journalists for that matter.
Not for a second it occurres to them that they are the outliers.
I think I did but I should have formulated my own point better. While the damage isn't at the same extent yet the current momentum makes me fear it could make the Iraq war a footnote on the path to it.
I had a Catholic upbringing and switch codes due to marriage and became a Baptist lay preacher in the UK. Lost it in the divorce. Not practicing anything and not sure where my beliefs are. But 100% certain that the Christianity esposed by Reformers and Maga is not remotely aligned to any core Christian creed.
Possibly, yes. But Iraq ended up being a two decade effort that destabilized an entire region, laid the foundation for the creation of ISIS and so on. There is some way to go yet to reach that level of disaster, especially because the US hasn’t committed ground troops. With Trumps propensity to pull back when markets and polling goes against him, the silly optimist in me thinks he will declare victory within a few weeks and withdraw. But it could also get a whole lot worse.
Economic update -
Kushner shaking down the Gulf sheikhs while Trump's got them by the balls -- amazing
This is what you get when you make deals with the mafia.
Already done - just awaiting final approval from cal state - Ellison and unnamed additional backers blew out Netflix’s purchase offer from the water
Lad, you can't remember what day it is.
He doesn't say on the video what it says in the caption.
Yes he does.
I don't think he says UK he says them and he doesn't say Starmer he says them. I think this videos implies it's a response after his latest call with the British PM but I'm not sure about that either as I think I saw this video earlier.
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I heard “him” There’s a word or two different but the quote accurately reports what he said overall.
No it isn't and I have shown you where. It is very specifically altered and I am suspicious about the reason for doing so.
Whether it will make any difference at the end of events is debatable yes.
They replace “him” with Keir Starmer. Because that’s who he was talking about. The meaning of what he said remains exactly the same.
Trump doesn’t say “him” once though. He says “them” each time. He’s very likely referring to NATO as a whole, given other comments he has made.
OK lets do it line by line and see where I am wrong.
This is what I think Trump said,
" I Don't want them after we win the war I want them before we started the war so"
He drops the volume on the last bit probably because he realizes how bad it sounds.
Never mentions the UK as per the script on the video which is.
""I don't want the UK after we win the war, I want them before"
This is what I think Trump said,
" I Don't want them after we win the war I want them before we started the war so"
He drops the volume on the last bit probably because he realizes how bad it sounds.
Never mentions the UK as per the script on the video which is.
""I don't want the UK after we win the war, I want them before"
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The tweet quotes...
"I don't want the UK after we win the war, I want them before. Whether we get their support or not. I can say this, and I said it to Keir Starmer. We will remember"
I heard it as this. Might be wrong....
"I don't want them after we win the war. I want them before [unclear]. So whether it's err...whether we get support or not, and we can say this, I said it to them...we will remember."
He may well be talking about his call with Starmer, but there is no need to invent quotes.
Next important line Trump says
" I can say this and I said it to them"
The script says
""I can say this, and I said it to Keir Starmer""
So here is the reason I marked them as differing, they both portray his comments as specific the the UK when in fact they may be about the UK or any US ally or NATO member etc.
I don't think it is a mistake because both point in the same direction and yes it changes the meaning of his words. Given the implied threat to the US future action on behalf of NATO members.
" I can say this and I said it to them"
The script says
""I can say this, and I said it to Keir Starmer""
So here is the reason I marked them as differing, they both portray his comments as specific the the UK when in fact they may be about the UK or any US ally or NATO member etc.
I don't think it is a mistake because both point in the same direction and yes it changes the meaning of his words. Given the implied threat to the US future action on behalf of NATO members.
Lastly,
"President Trump on Air Force One after he spoke to the UK's Prime Minister Keir Starmer,"
The set up line for the video is unspecific on timing. It looks like a response to the last call but it doesn't give a date for the call of which there will be many. I have watched today's response by Trump to the last call with Starmer on the BBC and this video isn't it.
Could be there are several responses by Trump or they cut this part out but I think its from before the last call. I am suspicious that the video posted is deliberately misleading and I know the script is wrong and misleading.
"President Trump on Air Force One after he spoke to the UK's Prime Minister Keir Starmer,"
The set up line for the video is unspecific on timing. It looks like a response to the last call but it doesn't give a date for the call of which there will be many. I have watched today's response by Trump to the last call with Starmer on the BBC and this video isn't it.
Could be there are several responses by Trump or they cut this part out but I think its from before the last call. I am suspicious that the video posted is deliberately misleading and I know the script is wrong and misleading.
Reports are saying that Iranian and Chinese oil tankers have passed through the strait. It would be interesting how China handle this going forward because they're allies with Iran and rely heavily on Iran for oil. So negotiations between them seem more likely than negotiation with the US.
They can come out as a hero in this oil supply disruption if they manage to convince Iran to reopen the strait or at least make it so that more oil are flowing out of it. Xi doesnt have to do anything to win.. as long as Trump is president, just wait and let him make mistakes. That seems to be his strategy.
They can come out as a hero in this oil supply disruption if they manage to convince Iran to reopen the strait or at least make it so that more oil are flowing out of it. Xi doesnt have to do anything to win.. as long as Trump is president, just wait and let him make mistakes. That seems to be his strategy.
To be fair, that's been China's strategy for decades now. Let the USA shoot themselves in the foot and pick up the pieces afterwards.
It's really baffling the support Trump gets considering he is probably a pedo and the actual stuff he does. It's likely he is being directed by Russia and Israel in his activities however are some of the other people like Hegseth, Leavitt, Bondi and others assets of other countries as well or just drunk by power. Are they all expecting pardons so they don't go to jail? The damage they are doing within America and it's global reputation is quite something. It's a strange world we live in and the way Trump gets backed by Republicans and others is bizzare.
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MAGA is truly psychotic...
MAGA is truly psychotic...
How long until they realise they're short on truck drivers and need to somehow accelerate visa applications for these jobs again?
They will just let illegals take the jobs instead and look the other way.How long until they realise they're short on truck drivers and need to somehow accelerate visa applications for these jobs again?
Spot on.
For Trump and his US administration, it is all about power. All about hegemony. They see the US as being able to do what they choose, when they choose to do it and expect everyone else to just accept it.
They decide to introduce huge tariffs on the rest of the world and then sit back and watch them plead to have them reduced.
They replace the leader of Venezuela in order to get full access to their oil.
They ridicule the Ukrainian leader publicity and then demand control of their minerals.
They have no interest in stopping the war in Ukraine except on Putin's terms. It suits them to have Russia involved in a protracted and damaging war.
They kill the Iranian leader and demand to choose his replacement.
They demand the takeover of Greenland from a NATO ally.
All of this demonstrates the clear intention of the US to dictate to the rest of the world what it intends to do either by economic power or military power.
The only country capable of standing up to the US is China. But China has a completely different agenda to the US. China wants the rest of the world to be stable such that it can continue to sell its goods.
It only has one overseas military base, Djibouti. While the US has some 750.
I am not an advocate of China. And I used to regard the US as a friend and ally. But this trump administration has changed that.
Aye, as long as there’s money to be made they’ll make it. And just keep their followers poor and stupid and continue blaming the immigrants.
I said this during the EU referendum and I still stand by it. The UK without Europe is a basket case without the former empire propping us up. Who could have thought that these islands are actually pretty insignificant on their own!
Instead of aligning with Europe, we abandoned them and and went with blind faith hoping that America will look after us. Pathetic.
A United Europe is a potential superpower.
Or even better: guess how many more self driving trucks we ll suddenly see pushed onto the market?How long until they realise they're short on truck drivers and need to somehow accelerate visa applications for these jobs again?
A lot of the idiots cheering for this probably wouldn't even pass the DoT drug test to be a driver.
Good luck with your food deliveries to supermarkets, good luck with uber deliveries, Amazon deliveries etc
Short sighted move.
The "theme" was, if you just got rid of all the illegals and even legal immigrants, americans would fill the jobs that were stolen from them.
Well, it turns out that, that american citizens aren't actually too keen on filling those low-wage jobs that requires manual labor, who could ever have guessed.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...rump-immigrant-farm-worker-visa-b2938966.html
So, i guess even Trump-admin subtly admits this isn't working out, but will anybody learn from this?
Probably not, in a few years, immigrants will be scapegoats again, and americans will fall for it, again.
Well, it turns out that, that american citizens aren't actually too keen on filling those low-wage jobs that requires manual labor, who could ever have guessed.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...rump-immigrant-farm-worker-visa-b2938966.html
So, i guess even Trump-admin subtly admits this isn't working out, but will anybody learn from this?
Probably not, in a few years, immigrants will be scapegoats again, and americans will fall for it, again.
It's shocking to me that all the people that Musk laid off from Twitter or the Federal Government aren't rushing out to pick almonds and grapes.
Agree with you. Leaving the EU was and will continue to be a monumental mistake. As is thinking that the US is an ally. Every time I hear about the so called Special Relationship I have to laugh. Yes there is a great deal of security cooperation. And that is a good thing. But it is far from equal. And foresaking our friends in Europe for the US is fundamentally flawed. Well done Nigel Farage.
Fecking Trump doesn’t give a shit about anyone
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Tbh, it doesn't seem to take much, in any part of the world these days, if there is a downturn, blame people who just moved there for their issues, and a lot of people fall for it.
Absolutely.
Trump saying it with a smirk on his face.