The Trump Presidency : Part 2

The base loves this, and the traditional Republicans will just pretend to love it.
They ll likely everything their news channels or orange God tells them to like. Had my father in law trying to tell me gerrymandering only helps the Dems and that they had to push back against them in states like Virginia bc they (the Dems) were discriminating against people. Can never win with these clowns because they ll turn every narrative upside down. fecking exhausting.
 
The base loves this, and the traditional Republicans will just pretend to love it.
It's just insane that Republicans are willing to debase themselves and go along with this nonsense. And we know they'll demanding higher standards for any future Democratic administration
 
There are no words......



"I understand Artists are getting “the yips” having to do with their performance on Wednesday, so I am thinking about bringing the Number One Attraction anywhere in the World, the man who gets much larger audiences than Elvis in his prime, and he does so without a guitar, the man who loves our Country more than anyone else, and the man who some say is the Greatest President in History (THE GOAT!), DONALD J. TRUMP, to take the place of these highly paid, Third Rate “Artists,” and give a major speech, rallying the Country forward like I have done ever since being President! Two years ago, the United States was DEAD. Now we have the “HOTTEST” Country anywhere in the World. I don’t want so-called “Artists” that get paid far too much money, who aren’t happy. I only want to be surrounded by Happy People, Smart People, Successful People, and People that know how to WIN. So, by copy of this TRUTH, I am ordering my Representatives to look at the feasibility of doing an AMERICA IS BACK Rally on Wednesday, Washington, D.C., same time, same location. Only Great Patriots invited — It will be a Wild and Beautiful Celebration of America! President DONALD J. TRUMP"
 
A Providence, R.I., man who bought a branded pink “Trump” watch for his MAGA-loving wife ended up getting a “Rump” watch instead.


Tim Pettit wanted to show support for the president and love for his wife by shelling out $640 for a watch “that may now be even more of a one-of-a-kind than he bargained for,” according to a local report from NBC 6 in Johnstown, Pennsylvania earlier this month,


Pettit’s wife explained, “The ‘T’ is missing. It just says ‘R-U-M-P.’ It says Rump.”


“We expected that it would have the integrity of the president of the United States,” said a disappointed Pettit.
https://www.mediaite.com/media/news/maga-fans-ticked-off-by-640-trump-watching-missing-t/

This entire article is like a distillation of everything in the Trump era. :lol:
 
About three months before the Pentagon announced plans to lend money to Vulcan Elements, Trump Jr.’s venture capital firm took an undisclosed stake in the company.

 
There are no words......



"I understand Artists are getting “the yips” having to do with their performance on Wednesday, so I am thinking about bringing the Number One Attraction anywhere in the World, the man who gets much larger audiences than Elvis in his prime, and he does so without a guitar, the man who loves our Country more than anyone else, and the man who some say is the Greatest President in History (THE GOAT!), DONALD J. TRUMP, to take the place of these highly paid, Third Rate “Artists,” and give a major speech, rallying the Country forward like I have done ever since being President! Two years ago, the United States was DEAD. Now we have the “HOTTEST” Country anywhere in the World. I don’t want so-called “Artists” that get paid far too much money, who aren’t happy. I only want to be surrounded by Happy People, Smart People, Successful People, and People that know how to WIN. So, by copy of this TRUTH, I am ordering my Representatives to look at the feasibility of doing an AMERICA IS BACK Rally on Wednesday, Washington, D.C., same time, same location. Only Great Patriots invited — It will be a Wild and Beautiful Celebration of America! President DONALD J. TRUMP"

When Donald is losing the park footy game 5-0 he takes his ball home and has a WAY better game with all his mates in his back garden that TOTALLY rocks .
Everyone wishes they were there because he is undeniably the GOAT.
No wonder Iran owned him like an adult playing chess against a 4 year old: because mentally he is actually 4.
At least he can pick a picture of a horse from an animal line up so his intellectual competence is without question. So there is that
 
Trump has made a meme stock grifter that exploited mentally unwell people losing their cash on GameStop and bed bath and beyond....THE feckING ACTING DNI. :lol:

This timeline ain't real folks. I'm fully ready to sign up to the idea that the large hadron collider actually did create a bizarro world when it turned on. Nothing else makes any fecking sense for this reality
 
Trump has made a meme stock grifter that exploited mentally unwell people losing their cash on GameStop and bed bath and beyond....THE feckING ACTING DNI. :lol:

This timeline ain't real folks. I'm fully ready to sign up to the idea that the large hadron collider actually did create a bizarro world when it turned on. Nothing else makes any fecking sense for this reality
Let's see if this hard and very visible push towards idiocracy will scare some sense into the US population..... Not gonna hold my breathe
 

Trump threatens tariffs on 60 countries including UK and Canada over ‘forced labour’​

Donald Trump has threatened tariffs of between 10% and 12.5% on 60 countries including the UK, EU and Australia over alleged forced labour failures, in the latest attempt to revive his signature trade policy.

The EU immediately hit back, saying it expected the US to respect the tariff deal it entered into last July and arguing stealth tariffs breached the spirit of that agreement.

The proposed levies on partners accused of allowing imports of goods produced by workers under coercion come after the supreme court ruled in February that the president’s “liberation day” tariffs were illegal.

Trump responded by imposing 10% across-the-board tariffs, but last month the US trade court found those were also unlawful, although they remain in place during the appeal process.

The latest proposal for tariffs on the grounds of forced labour, which would affect major partners including Canada, Japan, Norway, Taiwan and China, would enable Trump to skirt these previous court-imposed limits on his protectionist agenda. They come as the US threatens to impose fresh levies of 25% on Brazil.

The US trade representative, Jamieson Greer, said: “The failure of our most important trading partners to address the importation of goods made with forced labor is unacceptable. This creates a dynamic where American workers are forced to compete globally on an unlevel playing field. We will no longer tolerate this disparity.”

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2026/jun/03/trump-threatens-tariffs-60-countries-forced-labour

Thank goodness he is standing up against forced labour.
 
Just had someone in work sign off an email with.

" Thank you for your attention to this matter"
 

Trump threatens tariffs on 60 countries including UK and Canada over ‘forced labour’​

Donald Trump has threatened tariffs of between 10% and 12.5% on 60 countries including the UK, EU and Australia over alleged forced labour failures, in the latest attempt to revive his signature trade policy.

The EU immediately hit back, saying it expected the US to respect the tariff deal it entered into last July and arguing stealth tariffs breached the spirit of that agreement.

The proposed levies on partners accused of allowing imports of goods produced by workers under coercion come after the supreme court ruled in February that the president’s “liberation day” tariffs were illegal.

Trump responded by imposing 10% across-the-board tariffs, but last month the US trade court found those were also unlawful, although they remain in place during the appeal process.

The latest proposal for tariffs on the grounds of forced labour, which would affect major partners including Canada, Japan, Norway, Taiwan and China, would enable Trump to skirt these previous court-imposed limits on his protectionist agenda. They come as the US threatens to impose fresh levies of 25% on Brazil.

The US trade representative, Jamieson Greer, said: “The failure of our most important trading partners to address the importation of goods made with forced labor is unacceptable. This creates a dynamic where American workers are forced to compete globally on an unlevel playing field. We will no longer tolerate this disparity.”

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2026/jun/03/trump-threatens-tariffs-60-countries-forced-labour

Thank goodness he is standing up against forced labour.
Such a lefty.

It's like tariffs on Canada due to fentanyl issues. Transparent nonsense, but there is nothing you can do and there is no correction by US politicians and judges.
 
Also, he's back with the 51st State stuff (about Canada). And his ambassador to Canada - who said that stuff is now in the past and that Canadians need to get over it and that he doesn't understand why Canadians are still pissed off with the US - reposted it.

As they say, only the best people.
 
Also, he's back with the 51st State stuff (about Canada). And his ambassador to Canada - who said that stuff is now in the past and that Canadians need to get over it and that he doesn't understand why Canadians are still pissed off with the US - reposted it.

As they say, only the best people.
We really need to send that twat Hoekstra home.
 
We really need to send that twat Hoekstra home.
That'll just make Trump do and say more stupid stuff, and chances are zero another ambassador would be any better: Trump's new ambassadors across Europe have been a nuisance on various occasions (as was Hoekstra when he was ambassador to the Netherlands previously).

Just ignore him - as we have to do with most of Trump's crap.
 
We are at the 'changing the predicted path of a hurricane chart with a Sharpie' point of his second term.

This time he's got someone to create a chart for him to prove his point. His point being absolutely insane and one that nobody really gives a feck about anyway. I haven't checked, but I bet this is all down to someone on late night CNN or Fox criticisising him comparing skyscrapers to the reflection pool, or saying they aren't equatable in size.

 
At what point do we hold the US as a state responsible? Trump is the crazy president but at a point the apparatus and checks and balance fails. The US as a nation allows and agree to whatever he's doing right now.

You can argue he rigged the SC or whatever but at some point you can't say it's only Trump.
 
At what point do we hold the US as a state responsible? Trump is the crazy president but at a point the apparatus and checks and balance fails. The US as a nation allows and agree to whatever he's doing right now.

You can argue he rigged the SC or whatever but at some point you can't say it's only Trump.
It's already happening. Other countries are decoupling from the US in general. I guess most obvious is the bunch of military aircraft deals that just fell through (Canada and Spain buying jets from Sweden and Turkey instead of the F-35, Italy buying A330MRTT instead of Boeing tankers...), but there are loads of other economical, political and technical decisions made around the world that move away from the US.

Which is different to Trump's first term. Then he was similarly unhinged but the apparatus around him kept him in check and almost everything went on as it normally did. This time the checks and balances are not working as well and the people showed they don't understand the issue by electing him again.
 
It's already happening. Other countries are decoupling from the US in general. I guess most obvious is the bunch of military aircraft deals that just fell through (Canada and Spain buying jets from Sweden and Turkey instead of the F-35, Italy buying A330MRTT instead of Boeing tankers...), but there are loads of other economical, political and technical decisions made around the world that move away from the US.

Which is different to Trump's first term. Then he was similarly unhinged but the apparatus around him kept him in check and almost everything went on as it normally did. This time the checks and balances are not working as well and the people showed they don't understand the issue by electing him again.
Plus Turkey is buying the EF Typhoon from the UK.
 
Who does he keep talking about pool? what's so special about it?
Nothing special, just one of his most recent fixations. He decided he wants the Reflecting Pool in Washington DC lined in blue so it looks like the blue on the US flag, but because his brain's fried he called it Reflecting Lake instead and claimed that it is larger than the tallest building in the world. Obviously he immediatly got ridiculed for his idiocy, and because Trump is Trump he can't let that go. Hence somebody had to make that graphic for him. None of those are anywhere near the size of the tallest building in the world, of course, but Trump's of course not letting truth get in the way of his boasting.
 
Plus Turkey is buying the EF Typhoon from the UK.
That is a deal I wouldn't put in this context. Turkey was kicked out of the F-35 program years ago after they bought Russian S-400 air defence systems.
 
Nothing special, just one of his most recent fixations. He decided he wants the Reflecting Pool in Washington DC lined in blue so it looks like the blue on the US flag, but because his brain's fried he called it Reflecting Lake instead and claimed that it is larger than the tallest building in the world. Obviously he immediatly got ridiculed for his idiocy, and because Trump is Trump he can't let that go. Hence somebody had to make that graphic for him. None of those are anywhere near the size of the tallest building in the world, of course, but Trump's of course not letting truth get in the way of his boasting.
I’d love it if one of the reporters lost their shit and said “why the feck do we care about a pool? It isn’t putting bread on the table, bringing down gas prices, ending a war, ending financial corruption, investigating the Epstein files fully or locking up pedophiles? Stop taking us for idiots mr President; we are not your cabinet of morons”
 
I’d love it if one of the reporters lost their shit and said “why the feck do we care about a pool? It isn’t putting bread on the table, bringing down gas prices, ending a war, ending financial corruption, investigating the Epstein files fully or locking up pedophiles? Stop taking us for idiots mr President; we are not your cabinet of morons”

Aside from Trump bragging about it 24/7, there's a bigger issue that seems to be overlooked this far. When he first started talking about this project, he claimed to have two contractor friends who put Olympic sizes pools in one or two of his hotels. Of course, claimed to know more about building pools than anyone else, but the main boast was that these contractors would sort the clean & repair out for peanuts.

As usual Trump claimed it would be far cheaper than anyone else could do it and he even used Obama spending $34 million to repair & clean it back in 2012. Trump said it would cost $1.8 million.

However, when asked recently he claimed the contractors were unknown to him and won by submitting a bid and the new cost would be around $15 million dollars. Trump has also contracted out repairs and cleaning of many other statues and fountains in the D.C. area and again, the costs are vastly more than he claimed they would be in. This has left many wondering if Trump himself was profiting from the contracts in some way given they have gone to unknown contractors for prices way over his initial estimations.
 
At what point do we hold the US as a state responsible? Trump is the crazy president but at a point the apparatus and checks and balance fails. The US as a nation allows and agree to whatever he's doing right now.

You can argue he rigged the SC or whatever but at some point you can't say it's only Trump.
Of course we should hold the US responsible as a country. This is their government, and it's been heading this way for a long time. The Republicans (and especially their Evangelical base) are evil Machiavellians and all that, but Democrats are complicit in the sense that they have long abandoned the lower classes and haven't offered much of anything to them in a long time.

This isn't just a couple of people electing Trump out of nowhere. And it isn't a genie that will just get back into its bottle after Trump.
 
Of course we should hold the US responsible as a country. This is their government, and it's been heading this way for a long time. The Republicans (and especially their Evangelical base) are evil Machiavellians and all that, but Democrats are complicit in the sense that they have long abandoned the lower classes and haven't offered much of anything to them in a long time.

This isn't just a couple of people electing Trump out of nowhere. And it isn't a genie that will just get back into its bottle after Trump.
Good post
 
Of course we should hold the US responsible as a country. This is their government, and it's been heading this way for a long time. The Republicans (and especially their Evangelical base) are evil Machiavellians and all that, but Democrats are complicit in the sense that they have long abandoned the lower classes and haven't offered much of anything to them in a long time.

This isn't just a couple of people electing Trump out of nowhere. And it isn't a genie that will just get back into its bottle after Trump.

That’s not really true though, is it?

https://www.americanprogress.org/article/the-biden-administration-handed-over-a-strong-economy/

Note that the stats mention improvements in equality, not just the economy as a whole.

The strong labor market has also improved employment opportunities for specific groups. Crucially, the unemployment gap between Black and white workers has fallen substantially; it reached 2.5 percentage points in December 2024. (see Figure 4) Although a material gap remains, 2023 and 2024 saw the smallest gaps on record since data collection began in the early 1970s. CAP analysis of the Current Population Survey also highlights that the EPOP ratio for prime-age women also reached its highest average of any business cycle since these data were collected post-World War II.

Wealth gains have been particularly strong for younger and lower-income households. CAP analysis of the Federal Reserve’s most recent “Financial Accounts of the United States” release finds that during this business cycle, average inflation-adjusted wealth per household increased by a quarterly annualized rate of 9.9 percent for households under age 40 and by 10.5 percent for those in the bottom half of the wealth distribution. Wealth gains by younger households were much faster than those by older age groups, resulting from broad gains in home equity, stocks and mutual funds, and equity in private businesses and liquid reserves, as well as declining consumer debt. And unlike after the Great Recession when the racial wealth gaps widened—especially between Latino and white households—the wealth of those two groups saw similar wealth gains over the cycle.

And that summary doesn’t mention progress made on making healthcare more accessible.

The really crazy thing is the Dems seemed to get the most shit from potential voters for their support of Israel. Which looks pretty fecking stupid in hindsight, now we’re seeing what completely unfettered support for Netanyahu’s insane schemes actually looks like.

Remember when there was some legitimate scrutiny on the genocide in Gaza? Good times. Compare the traffic to the Redcafe thread on Gaza under Biden and now under Trump. It’s died on its arse. From the most pressing issue for the POTUS to deal with to a side note in history.
 
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That’s not really true though, is it?

https://www.americanprogress.org/article/the-biden-administration-handed-over-a-strong-economy/

Note that the stats mention improvements in equality, not just the economy as a whole. And that summary doesn’t mention progress made on making healthcare more accessible.

The really crazy thing is the Dems seemed to get the most shit from potential voters for their support of Israel. Which looks pretty fecking stupid now we’re seeing what completely unfettered support for Netanyahu actually looks like.
Also Biden bailed out the Teamster fund and basically got no appreciation for it...

https://apnews.com/article/biden-bu...ics-retirees-09d93d2af8cc68de47eccda4a9ef0250
 
The bigger problem is why the centre and the left get held to a higher standard than the right. And why successes of the centre and left are never recognised by the electorate who knee jerk react and then pivot back to the right (whose governance previously already made most people worse off).
Consider the damage done by Brexit (Farage) and the Conservatives (reelected repeatedly) to how the electorate now blames Labour for not fixing everything caused by those two clusterf###s. Their first response? to pivot to Reform who are basically the worst of the last decade put together.

Same in the US. The Dems can’t / won’t get their message out. They need to fight fire with fire.

Same here in the UK or we are doomed.
 
The bigger problem is why the centre and the left get held to a higher standard than the right. And why successes of the centre and left are never recognised by the electorate who knee jerk react and then pivot back to the right (whose governance previously already made most people worse off).
Consider the damage done by Brexit (Farage) and the Conservatives (reelected repeatedly) to how the electorate now blames Labour for not fixing everything caused by those two clusterf###s. Their first response? to pivot to Reform who are basically the worst of the last decade put together.

Same in the US. The Dems can’t / won’t get their message out. They need to fight fire with fire.

Same here in the UK or we are doomed.
Well that's the whole media / social media regulation debate, as right wing owners of legacy / social media unfortunately get to set agendas and narratives.
 
Also Biden bailed out the Teamster fund and basically got no appreciation for it...

https://apnews.com/article/biden-bu...ics-retirees-09d93d2af8cc68de47eccda4a9ef0250

Exactly

And what about the progress made in LGBT rights under the Dems? Compare and contrast with what it must be like for them living in a country ruled by Trump?

Or the commitment to a shift to renewable energy? Completely torpedoed now. Let the world burn.

The willingness that so many progressives and minorities in America had to ignore any and all positives from having the Democrats in charge will go down in history as a Brexit style act of baffling self harm.
 
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The bigger problem is why the centre and the left get held to a higher standard than the right. And why successes of the centre and left are never recognised by the electorate who knee jerk react and then pivot back to the right (whose governance previously already made most people worse off).
Consider the damage done by Brexit (Farage) and the Conservatives (reelected repeatedly) to how the electorate now blames Labour for not fixing everything caused by those two clusterf###s. Their first response? to pivot to Reform who are basically the worst of the last decade put together.

Same in the US. The Dems can’t / won’t get their message out. They need to fight fire with fire.

Same here in the UK or we are doomed.

Well that's the whole media / social media regulation debate, as right wing owners of legacy / social media unfortunately get to set agendas and narratives.

You’re right to flag social media as fuel to the flames but the whole centre/left being held to higher standards is rife on this very website. Are any current events regulars going to admit to social media indoctrination? Or is something else going on?
 
That’s not really true though, is it?

https://www.americanprogress.org/article/the-biden-administration-handed-over-a-strong-economy/

Note that the stats mention improvements in equality, not just the economy as a whole.





And that summary doesn’t mention progress made on making healthcare more accessible.

The really crazy thing is the Dems seemed to get the most shit from potential voters for their support of Israel. Which looks pretty fecking stupid in hindsight, now we’re seeing what completely unfettered support for Netanyahu’s insane schemes actually looks like.

Remember when there was some legitimate scrutiny on the genocide in Gaza? Good times. Compare the traffic to the Redcafe thread on Gaza under Biden and now under Trump. It’s died on its arse. From the most pressing issue for the POTUS to deal with to a side note in history.
Also Biden bailed out the Teamster fund and basically got no appreciation for it...

https://apnews.com/article/biden-bu...ics-retirees-09d93d2af8cc68de47eccda4a9ef0250
Exactly

And what about the progress made in LGBT rights under the Dems? Compare and contrast with what it must be like for them living in a country ruled by Trump?

Or the commitment to a shift to renewable energy? Completely torpedoed now. Let the world burn.

The willingness that so many progressives and minorities in America had to ignore any and all positives from having the Democrats in charge will go down in history as a Brexit style act of baffling self harm.
Overall, lower-class household wealth going up is a good thing, as is supporting that pension plan. The big green-energy act was also a net benefit for poorer communities, which were benefitting most from those investments. And I agree that that should have been clearer to the electorate.

However: overall economy increases often don't mean much to the lower classes, and neither do typical white-collar middle-class concerns (which they are, even if they shouldn't be) like LGBT rights, renewable energy, or overall economic growth (which often doesn't translate to all income groups). And I was specifically talking about the lower classes deliberately, cause they benefit most from leftist economic policy, which isn't the same as leftist social/moral policy. To expand further on that point, I'll quote two more posts:
The bigger problem is why the centre and the left get held to a higher standard than the right. And why successes of the centre and left are never recognised by the electorate who knee jerk react and then pivot back to the right (whose governance previously already made most people worse off).
Consider the damage done by Brexit (Farage) and the Conservatives (reelected repeatedly) to how the electorate now blames Labour for not fixing everything caused by those two clusterf###s. Their first response? to pivot to Reform who are basically the worst of the last decade put together.

Same in the US. The Dems can’t / won’t get their message out. They need to fight fire with fire.

Same here in the UK or we are doomed.
You’re right to flag social media as fuel to the flames but the whole centre/left being held to higher standards is rife on this very website. Are any current events regulars going to admit to social media indoctrination? Or is something else going on?
My thinking here is that you can tell people that Brexit is a bad idea, but after 40 years of neoliberal policy that does nothing for the below-median-income population, a message of 'don't vote Brexit and preserve the status quo' isn't a winning argument. And neither is basically anything that Labour has focused on, more or less since Blair (who still came out just the other week saying that a left turn on the economy is a bad idea for Labour), or the US Democrats since the 80s.

Obviously, I'm not saying that anything that that the US Republicans (or Reform or the Tories in the UK) are saying or doing will help the lower classes. But the so-called left has been leaving a huge gap on economic policy for decades now, leaving everyone who (as I would argue) needs that sort of policy up for grabs to the right - even if the right of course mostly just offer populist nonsense, cause they traditionally don't offer viable solutions for the lower classes.

I know, the situation is more complex in the US, because things like the strange electoral system and how it's being exploited through things like intentional polarization and gerrymandering complicate the landscape. But overall, I would really argue that the supposed left should start speaking directly to and working directly for lower-class concerns before we all start complaining how the lower classes don't care enough about progress about white-collar middle-class concerns and vote against their best interests. (Again, I know those should be everyone's concerns. For example, the dismantling of US climate and environmental protections will hurt the lower classes first. For example, it's them who are getting noxious data centres on their doorstep first. Example of Boxtown, TN: article 1, article 2.)
 
Exactly

And what about the progress made in LGBT rights under the Dems? Compare and contrast with what it must be like for them living in a country ruled by Trump?

Or the commitment to a shift to renewable energy? Completely torpedoed now. Let the world burn.

The willingness that so many progressives and minorities in America had to ignore any and all positives from having the Democrats in charge will go down in history as a Brexit style act of baffling self harm.
The Democrats suck at messaging, while the Republicans and their entire media apparatus are in campaign mode whether it’s an election year or not. They are relentless.

It can’t be overstated how much goodwill and credibility the Democrats lost by rolling out a corpse and then gaslighting people that were doubtful about his ability to do the job. Biden showing some humility and stepping aside in time might have been the difference, but he was too arrogant.
 
The Democrats suck at messaging, while the Republicans and their entire media apparatus are in campaign mode whether it’s an election year or not. They are relentless.

It can’t be overstated how much goodwill and credibility the Democrats lost by rolling out a corpse and then gaslighting people that were doubtful about his ability to do the job. Biden showing some humility and stepping aside in time might have been the difference, but he was too arrogant.
It's very easy to be 'good at messaging' when the truth means nothing to you, though.