The Trump Presidency : Part 2

Pondering this a lot recently, could he actually be the anti christ?

Which side of the fence does he sit on?

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The American version of Christianity flips those though so he could actually be the second coming.
 
Wouldn't the insurance companies and the doctors ignore the executive order? It would cost insurance companies more to treat diseases than to continue administering vaccines.
You'd think so, right? Cause it's very expensive for a society to have to deal with serious contagious diseases spreading more freely. But then I thought insurance companies would lobby hard for climate measures, since all the additional weather damage was supposed to be going to cost them a fortune. But that's not happening either.

Well, the damage is, of course. It's going to get much worse, too. Come to think of it, it's actually a really appropriate comparison for the terrible damage Kennedy is doing to the US in the long term...
 
Watch child mortality rates rise rapidly over the next few years
Is it really all just to make a buck? Think there is more to whats going on tbh.... not sure what it is though. Either way if I cant see how it favours him and his ilk, I cant see how it hinders them either
 
They're so close...


Every accusation is a confession.

The entire policy of political parties in the US, UK and co has been redistributing assets from the working class (and eventually middle class) to the very wealthy and billionaires. Then invent culture wars and other shit so people look the other way around. Of course, this asset redistribution did not build prosperity.
 
Wouldn't the insurance companies and the doctors ignore the executive order? It would cost insurance companies more to treat diseases than to continue administering vaccines.
You would hope so. Which means we have the prospect of for profit insurance companies caring more about child health than the elected government.
 
Andrew Wakefield now lives in America doesn't he?

This is the day he has been waiting for, ever since he completely fabricated his MMR and autism study.
Wakefield has lived in the US since 2004, he was the bane of parts of my working life in the 2000/2010's when I worked on The Lancet website, the study in question was not a complete fabrication but he did lie about some of it in attempt to make himself a very rich man, and he fooled a lot of very clever people in doing so.
 
Wakefield has lived in the US since 2004, he was the bane of parts of my working life in the 2000/2010's when I worked on The Lancet website, the study in question was not a complete fabrication but he did lie about some of it in attempt to make himself a very rich man, and he fooled a lot of very clever people in doing so.
I'm sorry. You are right. To avoid any residual legal issues, it wasn't completely fabricated. Offering his kids friends money at birthday parties to take their blood probably speaks best to his ethical approach to research.

My knowledge of the more nefarious details owe a lot to Brian Deer and Harris Brewer.
 
Wouldn't the insurance companies and the doctors ignore the executive order? It would cost insurance companies more to treat diseases than to continue administering vaccines.
Insurance companies will do what the usually do, deny coverage, most doctors will recommend the vaccines but ultimately parents decide

Local and State Goverments are the best hope, some of these have mandates about vaccinations and being able to attend public schools, that probably needs to be expanded to cover non-public schools as well but that might be difficult
 
Is it really all just to make a buck? Think there is more to whats going on tbh.... not sure what it is though. Either way if I cant see how it favours him and his ilk, I cant see how it hinders them either
I suspect it's more to do with appeasing RFK jr and his supporters so he can get their support on other stuff he wants, and of course never admitting that he might have been wrong about something
 
I'm sorry. You are right. To avoid any residual legal issues, it wasn't completely fabricated. Offering his kids friends money at birthday parties to take their blood probably speaks best to his ethical approach to research.

My knowledge of the more nefarious details owe a lot to Brian Deer and Harris Brewer.
Wakefield, up until that point had been a fairly well respected researcher, he got greedy

Unfortunately this kind of thing is far more common now, and it's getting worse, the video below is worth a watch, reputable publishing companies are spending tons of money trying to prevent fale and fraudulant research, and TBH they're losing, you only need to see some of the COVID claims made in the media, citing unreviewed research as fact

 
Wakefield, up until that point had been a fairly well respected researcher, he got greedy

Unfortunately this kind of thing is far more common now, and it's getting worse, the video below is worth a watch, reputable publishing companies are spending tons of money trying to prevent fale and fraudulant research, and TBH they're losing, you only need to see some of the COVID claims made in the media, citing unreviewed research as fact


Don’t forget old school PNAS papers that came in via the Contributed Submission route. We used to select one of those a month in journal club and dissect how awful the science and writing was.
 
Don’t forget old school PNAS papers that came in via the Contributed Submission route. We used to select one of those a month in journal club and dissect how awful the science and writing was.
I worked on the technical side, I still do, the content mostly goes over my head, but I work with people who do understand this stuff and they say the same sort of things, I remember those claims, made on the likes of Fox News, about COVID which were taken from pre-print servers, now they have lots of good stuff there but they also have a lot of shite, anyone can post stuff there, and the media was treating some of it as serious stuff

Paper mills are the biggest issue these days, IMO, they appear to be reputable but are most definitely not, the fact that Larry the cat was able to get over 130 citations to a paper created to expose the paper mill practices shows how bad it's gotten
 
Is it really all just to make a buck? Think there is more to whats going on tbh.... not sure what it is though. Either way if I cant see how it favours him and his ilk, I cant see how it hinders them either
Seems like Kennedy is just a true believer in this nonsense. I don't assume Trump really cares though; I suppose he was just happy to get Kennedy and his support in.
 
Seems like Kennedy is just a true believer in this nonsense. I don't assume Trump really cares though; I suppose he was just happy to get Kennedy and his support in.
Trump doesn't care about anything that doesn't make him money, RFK jr is a useful idiot that enables him, though ironically RFK jr is actually trying in another area to do something really worth doing, getting petroleum based dyes out of food
 
So I saw something this morning that suggested they're not going to stop vaccinating for measles, mumps and rubella, just use of the combo MMR vaccine. Which means a lot more visits to the doctor, and a lot more vaccinations.

Seems like this helps someone make more money, probably insurers.
 
So I saw something this morning that suggested they're not going to stop vaccinating for measles, mumps and rubella, just use of the combo MMR vaccine. Which means a lot more visits to the doctor, and a lot more vaccinations.

Seems like this helps someone make more money, probably insurers.
It's also a discouragement. Needing more visits means more people will forget or not bother.
 
So I saw something this morning that suggested they're not going to stop vaccinating for measles, mumps and rubella, just use of the combo MMR vaccine. Which means a lot more visits to the doctor, and a lot more vaccinations.

Seems like this helps someone make more money, probably insurers.
and since there is no FDA approved single vaccine version of any of the three in MMR....well....good luck kids.
 
I'd put that as quite a loss to the White House. She was effective at what she set out to do.
I think they realised you don't have to be that effective to get one over the American population... cant wait to see who they hire next as pisstake
 
I think they realised you don't have to be that effective to get one over the American population... cant wait to see who they hire next as pisstake
I wouldnt be surprised if he blames her for his poor polling/media. Which would be bloody insane of him, but plausible.
 
Ecuadorian fisher boats were attacked. Indications that English-speaking group were the perps. Hints at US military or private contractor working for the US.