No checks and balances on Trump, America is a failed state. The damage this is causing will take years to amend, people's costs going up, more pressure on everyone. Just sick of it.
The U.S. and Israel attack Iran | Peace deal finally on?
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In the latest edition of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) chats to author, Dan Williamson, about his new book 'If I Hadnt Seen Such Riches' which chronicles our 1990/91 European Cup Winners Cup victory, which is a trip down memory lane for those old enough to remember it and a vital history lesson for those who don't.
Absolutely true. At every publication I've ever worked on, the vast majority of complaints are about the headline, even if they admit the article is balanced.
It's obviously also what comes up on searches and stays on google forever, often even after the article is deleted.
Just had a re read and they never mention Israel in this morning's live feed when reporting the attack on the South Pars gas field.
And it's a very important detail that this escalation on attacking energy infrastructure was started by Israel.
You'd think from the media narrative that Iran had woken up and decided to start bombing their neighbours' oil fields for the craic. No mention of the fact that Israel and the US had preceded this by bombing their energy infrastructure.
I rarely check media from other countries (except BBC, CNN...) but in our national media it's been widely reported as a retribution for the attacks on the Iranian oil/gas fields. From different Belgian newspapers:
"Iran heeft belangrijke gasinstallaties in Qatar aangevallen als vergelding voor een Israëlische aanval op een groot Iraans gasveld. Qatar is een belangrijke exporteur van vloeibaar gemaakt aardgas (lng), onder meer naar Europa."
"Iran has attacked key gas installations in Qatar in retaliation for an Israeli attack on a major Iranian gas field. Qatar is a major exporter of liquefied natural gas (LNG), including to Europe."
"Na Amerikaans-Israëlische aanvallen op een Iraans gasveld gisteren dreigde Teheran met vergeldingsaanvallen op gasvelden en raffinaderijen in de Verenigde Arabische Emiraten, Saudi-Arabië en Qatar. Daarbij werd de Samref-raffinaderij, een van de belangrijkste in Saudi-Arabië, ook genoemd."
"Following American-Israeli attacks on an Iranian gas field yesterday, Tehran threatened retaliatory attacks on gas fields and refineries in the United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar. The Samref refinery, one of the most important in Saudi Arabia, was also mentioned in this context."
I think/hope our msm is largely unbiased.
Which means there are further nonces in the British Media that we are not aware of yet but Israel is.
I’ve read the BBC news site this morning and it’s clear to me from reading that Israel struck the South Pars facility first and that Iran struck back elsewhere in retaliation.
Trump knew Israel would strike according to the WP which Trump denies.
South Pars is a joint gas field (Iran/Qatar). Trump has now threatened to blow South Pars to smithereens if Iran keeps targeting Saudi (I think).
I can’t see what the complaints are about the BBC on this. The live feed is pretty good from what I can see when compared to other news sites too.
So Trump is warning Iran not to bomb Qatar by threatening to *checks notes* - bomb an oil field they share with Qatar?
Markets taking a bit of a hammering. Probably just the start though..
It wasn't the reporting in the article, it was the headline that omitted the fact that Israel were the initial aggressors with their attack on the oil fields.
I don't even think we need to get into conjecture. We know there's been hundreds of internal staff complaints at the BBC for forcing pro-israel narratives, we know cases of Israeli lobby groups getting headlines changed. The BBC are currently fighting a FOI request to provide data on cals between editors and Israeli officials/embassy staff.
The BBC purposely pushes a pro-israel approach to it's headlines. Whether that's due to the politics of senior leadership, government interference or as I suspect risk avoidance so they don't get called anti-semetic tor reporting truths.
The BBC purposely pushes a pro-israel approach to it's headlines. Whether that's due to the politics of senior leadership, government interference or as I suspect risk avoidance so they don't get called anti-semetic tor reporting truths.
Have to disagree, this is just one example posted at 07.33
If you wake up and this is the first thing you read it comes across like Iran just randomly decided to bomb Qatari gas fields, the context is really important and is negligent to leave it out.
Here is another update posted 7.14:
Another here, where it's mentioned the South Pars gas field was attacked but never mention Israel did it:
I could go on but i think I've made my point.
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Give him a trophy of some sort “Best war leader” or some other childish nonsense and he’ll be done
A FIFA War Prize to go with his FIFA Peace Prize
Things are getting worse. It’s time that the U.S. end this war.
Declare victory, decry others for “not helping,” moan an complain about whomever you want. Do whatever you please. Just put this war to bed.
Declare victory, decry others for “not helping,” moan an complain about whomever you want. Do whatever you please. Just put this war to bed.
The proper headlining of the events was probably best done by... fecking Trump! Media should have some shame
Yeah, shallow headlines are very often clickbait and so, also people complaining are just not very much in that game themselves
The media is always on Israel side, including the “liberal” mainstream outlets. You know, the people who lecture us about human rights and the importance of “every life.”
This is already known. Don’t be shocked.
This is already known. Don’t be shocked.
The BBC are reporting a more than 20% rise in UK gas prices. feck this.
Yeah, feck this. And the lives of thousands of Arabs. And our pensions savings and daily living costs.
But the absolutely worst thing about this pointless war is the fact that no one will be held responsible for it. No justice at all
Not sure about the Beeb. But risk avoidance is probably the main reason why the Gazza Genocide title has gone back to Israel-Palestine, as if it's some sort of football game. Don't want to be labelled anti semitic or something do we.
I‘m a firm believer in calling things what they are, but that’s not how the world works unfortunately.
I have to restrain myself constantly from writing what I really think, on this topic.
Evolution of BBC's live feed mentioning the South Pars after Israel attacked it:
Evolution of BBC's live feed mentioning Ras Laffan after Iran attacked it:
You can see that some of this attribution stuff is just the BBC taking its time to confirm what happened. It becomes more confident in assigning responsibility unilaterally as time passes. The BBC does seem to show a greater willingness to assign blame when Iran is the aggressor, but some of this might also be down to Iran claiming strikes while Israel maintains its silence. There's also the fact that early doors it still could have been the Americans. I do think that there's undeniably a far greater willingness to use Iran in the headline though. The word 'Israel' was used in precisely one headline regarding the strikes at South Pars and in that singular case the BBC still took care to name both them and Iran as co-aggressors. Meanwhile Iran's name appears as the aggressor in 8 headlines regarding the strike at Ras Laffan.
11:51
"Iran media says complex on world's largest natural gas field hit: Iran's petrochemical complex on the South Pars gas field has been hit by airstrikes, according to the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) affiliated news agency, Tasnim."
12:13
"A recap of strikes across Middle East overnight and today....Iran: Iranian media reported that a petrochemical complex on the South Pars gas field had been hit"
13:30
"Oil prices jump after reports Iranian gas field hit: Oil prices leapt to more than $108 a barrel following Iranian media reports that a facility on the world’s largest natural gas field was struck."
14:02
Strikes on Iranian energy facilities 'dangerous and irresponsible', says Qatar: Qatar says strikes against Iranian facilities- which it says were launched by Israel - linked to the world's largest natural gas field are "dangerous and irresponsible".
15:01
"Iranian military says it 'will retaliate strongly' to strikes on energy infrastructure: Iran's armed forces has warned it will take "decisive action" in response to attacks on its energy infrastructure, according to a statement carried on the IRGC-affiliated news agency Tasnim. As we've been reporting, Iran has said its facilities at the South Pars gas field have been targeted...Qatar's foreign ministry spokesman, Majed Al Ansari, says the South Pars facilities were targeted by Israel."
15:13
"No injuries reported at Iran gas facility hit by strikes - Iranian media: Iranian media is reporting that no one was killed or injured as a result of attacks on the country's petrochemical complex on the South Pars gas field."
15:25
"Iraq's gas supply from Iran halted after strikes - Iraqi media: Iraq's gas imports from Iran have been halted following strikes on Iranian gas facilities, Iraq's electricity ministry says in a report carried in Iraqi media."
16:41
"Here's what to know about the South Pars gas field at a glance: As we've been reporting, Iran says its South Pars gas field facilities have been attacked. It blames Israel and the US. Neither has commented. A spokesperson for Qatar's foreign ministry blamed Israel, calling it "dangerous and irresponsible"."
17:36 (first non-attributed Israel did it sighting)
"Several Gulf states brace for potential Iranian strikes on energy sites: Several of the Gulf Arab states are now bracing themselves for Iran’s retaliation after Israel struck Iranian facilities in the South Pars field, the world’s largest gas field today."
17:50
"Images show thick black smoke rising at South Pars gas facility: As we've been reporting, Iran says facilities linked to its South Pars gas field have been attacked. The BBC has verified a video which shows smoke billowing from the site."
17:24
"Iranian President warned of 'consequences beyond control' before Qatar strike: In the last hour, Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian warned of "consequences beyond control" after an attack on its South Pars gas field."
21:54
"Officials say Trump wants no more strikes on Iranian energy sites - WSJ: Trump wants no more strikes on Iranian energy sites after Israel struck facilities linked to the South Pars natural gas field today, the Wall Street Journal reports, citing unnamed US officials."
01:18
"What you need to know: Some hours ago, Iran reported that its South Pars oilfield had been attacked, blaming the US and Israel for the strikes - who are yet to comment - and promising to "retaliate strongly"."
02:44 (second non-attributed Israel did it sighting)
"Trump threatens to 'massively blow up' major Iranian gas field: US President Donald Trump has just issued a long Truth Social post about an Israeli attack on the South Pars gas field in Iran on Wednesday night....."Out of anger for what has taken place in the Middle East", Israel "violently lashed out", Trump writes...Trump writes - in capitals - that Israel will not attack Iran's South Pars gas field again, "unless Iran unwisely decides to attack" another innocent nation, which in this case was Qatar."
03:57
"Oil jumps 4% as strikes continue: The jump comes after Iran's South Pars gas facility - one of the world's largest natural gas fields - was hit. Iran retaliated by targeting a major liquefied natural gas export facility in Qatar, causing "extensive damage", raising concerns over the global energy supply.
04:29 (third non-attributed Israel did it sighting)
"All fires under control at Qatar energy complex: Qatar's Interior Ministry says that all fires at the Ras Laffan energy facility have now been brought under control without any reported injuries...As a reminder, the Ras Laffan facility was hit by Iranian rockets early on Thursday morning, in retaliation for an Israeli strike on the South Pars gas site.
07:00
"Attacks on Gulf nations continue throughout the night: Attacks on Middle Eastern nations continued through the night after Iran threatened to hit US-linked "oil and gas refineries" in the Gulf following a strike on its South Pars gas field.
07:10
"Gulf states bearing the brunt of Iranian fury: Both Qatar and the UAE had condemned the attack at Iran's South Pars gas field, warning it threatened "global energy security". Now the Gulf is bearing the brunt of Iran's fury.
10:56 (fourth unattributed Israel mention)
"Iran vows 'complete destruction' of Gulf energy infrastructure if its facilities are attacked again:
Iran has vowed to attack the energy infrastructure of US and Israeli allies in the Gulf until its "complete destruction" if its own energy facilities are targeted further. Tehran has launched a wave of attacks against gas and oil sites across the Gulf region after its own facilities linked to the South Pars gas fields were struck by Israel.
11:40 (fifth non-attributed Israel did it sighting)
"Gas prices spike as Israel and Iran strike energy sites - what you need to know: Strikes on energy sites: It comes after Iran struck the Ras Laffan gas plant in Qatar, causing "extensive damage". Iran's strike was in response to Israel hitting its South Pars gas field, located offshore in the Gulf, between Iran and Qatar.
"Iran media says complex on world's largest natural gas field hit: Iran's petrochemical complex on the South Pars gas field has been hit by airstrikes, according to the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) affiliated news agency, Tasnim."
12:13
"A recap of strikes across Middle East overnight and today....Iran: Iranian media reported that a petrochemical complex on the South Pars gas field had been hit"
13:30
"Oil prices jump after reports Iranian gas field hit: Oil prices leapt to more than $108 a barrel following Iranian media reports that a facility on the world’s largest natural gas field was struck."
14:02
Strikes on Iranian energy facilities 'dangerous and irresponsible', says Qatar: Qatar says strikes against Iranian facilities- which it says were launched by Israel - linked to the world's largest natural gas field are "dangerous and irresponsible".
15:01
"Iranian military says it 'will retaliate strongly' to strikes on energy infrastructure: Iran's armed forces has warned it will take "decisive action" in response to attacks on its energy infrastructure, according to a statement carried on the IRGC-affiliated news agency Tasnim. As we've been reporting, Iran has said its facilities at the South Pars gas field have been targeted...Qatar's foreign ministry spokesman, Majed Al Ansari, says the South Pars facilities were targeted by Israel."
15:13
"No injuries reported at Iran gas facility hit by strikes - Iranian media: Iranian media is reporting that no one was killed or injured as a result of attacks on the country's petrochemical complex on the South Pars gas field."
15:25
"Iraq's gas supply from Iran halted after strikes - Iraqi media: Iraq's gas imports from Iran have been halted following strikes on Iranian gas facilities, Iraq's electricity ministry says in a report carried in Iraqi media."
16:41
"Here's what to know about the South Pars gas field at a glance: As we've been reporting, Iran says its South Pars gas field facilities have been attacked. It blames Israel and the US. Neither has commented. A spokesperson for Qatar's foreign ministry blamed Israel, calling it "dangerous and irresponsible"."
17:36 (first non-attributed Israel did it sighting)
"Several Gulf states brace for potential Iranian strikes on energy sites: Several of the Gulf Arab states are now bracing themselves for Iran’s retaliation after Israel struck Iranian facilities in the South Pars field, the world’s largest gas field today."
17:50
"Images show thick black smoke rising at South Pars gas facility: As we've been reporting, Iran says facilities linked to its South Pars gas field have been attacked. The BBC has verified a video which shows smoke billowing from the site."
17:24
"Iranian President warned of 'consequences beyond control' before Qatar strike: In the last hour, Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian warned of "consequences beyond control" after an attack on its South Pars gas field."
21:54
"Officials say Trump wants no more strikes on Iranian energy sites - WSJ: Trump wants no more strikes on Iranian energy sites after Israel struck facilities linked to the South Pars natural gas field today, the Wall Street Journal reports, citing unnamed US officials."
01:18
"What you need to know: Some hours ago, Iran reported that its South Pars oilfield had been attacked, blaming the US and Israel for the strikes - who are yet to comment - and promising to "retaliate strongly"."
02:44 (second non-attributed Israel did it sighting)
"Trump threatens to 'massively blow up' major Iranian gas field: US President Donald Trump has just issued a long Truth Social post about an Israeli attack on the South Pars gas field in Iran on Wednesday night....."Out of anger for what has taken place in the Middle East", Israel "violently lashed out", Trump writes...Trump writes - in capitals - that Israel will not attack Iran's South Pars gas field again, "unless Iran unwisely decides to attack" another innocent nation, which in this case was Qatar."
03:57
"Oil jumps 4% as strikes continue: The jump comes after Iran's South Pars gas facility - one of the world's largest natural gas fields - was hit. Iran retaliated by targeting a major liquefied natural gas export facility in Qatar, causing "extensive damage", raising concerns over the global energy supply.
04:29 (third non-attributed Israel did it sighting)
"All fires under control at Qatar energy complex: Qatar's Interior Ministry says that all fires at the Ras Laffan energy facility have now been brought under control without any reported injuries...As a reminder, the Ras Laffan facility was hit by Iranian rockets early on Thursday morning, in retaliation for an Israeli strike on the South Pars gas site.
07:00
"Attacks on Gulf nations continue throughout the night: Attacks on Middle Eastern nations continued through the night after Iran threatened to hit US-linked "oil and gas refineries" in the Gulf following a strike on its South Pars gas field.
07:10
"Gulf states bearing the brunt of Iranian fury: Both Qatar and the UAE had condemned the attack at Iran's South Pars gas field, warning it threatened "global energy security". Now the Gulf is bearing the brunt of Iran's fury.
10:56 (fourth unattributed Israel mention)
"Iran vows 'complete destruction' of Gulf energy infrastructure if its facilities are attacked again:
Iran has vowed to attack the energy infrastructure of US and Israeli allies in the Gulf until its "complete destruction" if its own energy facilities are targeted further. Tehran has launched a wave of attacks against gas and oil sites across the Gulf region after its own facilities linked to the South Pars gas fields were struck by Israel.
11:40 (fifth non-attributed Israel did it sighting)
"Gas prices spike as Israel and Iran strike energy sites - what you need to know: Strikes on energy sites: It comes after Iran struck the Ras Laffan gas plant in Qatar, causing "extensive damage". Iran's strike was in response to Israel hitting its South Pars gas field, located offshore in the Gulf, between Iran and Qatar.
Evolution of BBC's live feed mentioning Ras Laffan after Iran attacked it:
18:31
Qatar dealing with fire at Ras Laffan - an area Iran had warned it would target:The Qatari government says its civil defence is dealing with a fire in the area of Ras Laffan, which is home to a refinery that Iranian state media had earlier said was a target and should be evacuated.
18:52
"'Extensive damage' from missile attacks, Qatar petroleum company says: Qatar's state-owned petroleum company says missiles have struck Ras Laffan Industrial City, an area with a major oil-processing site."
19:08
"Qatar calls Iran a 'direct threat' to the region: Qatar says the "brazen" missile attacks at Ras Laffan Industrial City are a "direct threat to its national security and the stability of the region"."
19:24
"Iranian President warned of 'consequences beyond control' before Qatar strike: In the last hour, Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian warned of "consequences beyond control" after an attack on its South Pars gas field...Iran now appears to be responding to that strike on South Pars, with Qatar reporting a fire and "extensive damage" in the area of Ras Laffan - home to a refinery which Iran had said was a target.
19:37
"Ras Laffan fire brought under control with no injuries, Qatar says: Qatar's interior ministry says the fire in Ras Laffan has been brought under control, and no injuries have been reported. In a separate update, Qatar's defence ministry says five missiles were launched at the country from Iran through the day.
20:11 (first non-attributed Iran did it sighting)
"Gulf ties fray after Iran hits critical Qatari infrastructure: The moment my phone vibrated this evening with the shrill security alert from the Qatari government I suspected this may be connected to the promised missile strike by Iran on its neighbours. Ras Laffan, where fire crews have been battling to put out a fire after it was indeed struck..."
23:39
"Macron calls for halt to strikes on civilian infrastructure: French President Emmanuel Macron says that there must be "a moratorium" on strikes that target civilian infrastructure, following the attacks on areas that produce gas in Iran and Qatar."
00:49
"Qatar says Iran's 'brutal aggressions' have crossed 'all red lines': The Qatari Ministry of Foreign Affairs has issued a statement condemning in the "strongest terms" the Iranian attacks on energy facilities in Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates...Earlier, an apparent Iranian missile strike hit Qatar's Ras Laffan industrial site."
01:18 (second non-attributed Iran did it sighting)
"What you need to know: Iran....has since struck Qatar's Ras Laffan, a city home to a refinery that Iranian state media had declared was a target."
02:44
"Trump threatens to 'massively blow up' major Iranian gas field: ...He goes on: "The United States knew nothing about this particular attack, and the country of Qatar was in no way, shape, or form, involved with it, nor did it have any idea that it was going to happen." But Iran didn't know this, Trump writes, and that its retaliatory attacks on Qatar's Ras Laffan were made "unjustifiably and unfairly".
03:45 (third non-attributed Iran did it sighting)
"Another Iranian strike leaves more damage at Ras Laffan energy facility: Before Trump's warning, Iranian state television reported that missiles had struck the Qatari energy complex at Ras Laffan again. Qatar's state energy company confirmed."
03:57 (fourth non-attributed Iran did it sighting)
"Oil jumps 4% as strikes continue: The jump comes after Iran's South Pars gas facility - one of the world's largest natural gas fields - was hit. Iran retaliated by targeting a major liquefied natural gas export facility in Qatar, causing "extensive damage", raising concerns over the global energy supply.
04:29 (fifth non-attributed Iran did it sighting)
"All fires under control at Qatar energy complex: Qatar's Interior Ministry says that all fires at the Ras Laffan energy facility have now been brought under control without any reported injuries...As a reminder, the Ras Laffan facility was hit by Iranian rockets early on Thursday morning, in retaliation for an Israeli strike on the South Pars gas site.
07:00 (sixth non-attributed Iran did it sighting)
"Attacks on Gulf nations continue throughout the night: Attacks on Middle Eastern nations continued through the night after Iran threatened to hit US-linked "oil and gas refineries" in the Gulf following a strike on its South Pars gas field....Following Iranian retaliatory attacks on its Ras Laffan energy complex on Wednesday, Qatar announced that it had been hit again the early hours of Thursday - with damage but no casualties reported."
07:10 (seventh non-attributed Iran did it sighting)
"Gulf states bearing the brunt of Iranian fury: Both Qatar and the UAE had condemned the attack at Iran's South Pars gas field, warning it threatened "global energy security". Now the Gulf is bearing the brunt of Iran's fury. In Qatar, Ras Laffan was hit repeatedly but fires there are now under control.
07:15 (eighth non-attributed Iran did it sighting)
"Qatar sites huge importance to global energy markets: These strikes, in Iran and Qatar, mark one of the most significant escalations since the conflict began when it comes to energy infrastructure. Ras Laffan in Qatar is the world's largest liquefied natural gas plant...Just north, in the Iranian part of the Gulf, is the South Pars gas field – which Donald Trump's threatened to destroy "entirely" if Iranian attacks on Qatar persisted.
07:54
"Price of gas rises sharply in Europe and UK:The price of gas has risen sharply following the attack on Qatar’s Ras Laffan complex."
09:09 (ninth non-attributed Iran did it sighting)
"Shell says Qatar gas facility damaged but 'safe' after attack: Shell says its natural gas facility within Qatar's Ras Laffan Industrial City was damaged by fire following Iran's attack on the site."
09:59 (tenth non-attributed Iran did it sighting)
"Sultanate of Oman condemns attacks on Gulf energy sites: The Sultanate of Oman has condemned Iran's attacks on energy sites in Qatar, the UAE and Saudia Arabia, according to the country’s state news agency...It comes after Iran struck Qatar's Ras Laffan energy complex on Wednesday.
11:40 (eleventh non-attributed Iran did it sighting)
"Gas prices spike as Israel and Iran strike energy sites - what you need to know: Strikes on energy sites: It comes after Iran struck the Ras Laffan gas plant in Qatar, causing "extensive damage". Iran's strike was in response to Israel hitting its South Pars gas field, located offshore in the Gulf, between Iran and Qatar.
Qatar dealing with fire at Ras Laffan - an area Iran had warned it would target:The Qatari government says its civil defence is dealing with a fire in the area of Ras Laffan, which is home to a refinery that Iranian state media had earlier said was a target and should be evacuated.
18:52
"'Extensive damage' from missile attacks, Qatar petroleum company says: Qatar's state-owned petroleum company says missiles have struck Ras Laffan Industrial City, an area with a major oil-processing site."
19:08
"Qatar calls Iran a 'direct threat' to the region: Qatar says the "brazen" missile attacks at Ras Laffan Industrial City are a "direct threat to its national security and the stability of the region"."
19:24
"Iranian President warned of 'consequences beyond control' before Qatar strike: In the last hour, Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian warned of "consequences beyond control" after an attack on its South Pars gas field...Iran now appears to be responding to that strike on South Pars, with Qatar reporting a fire and "extensive damage" in the area of Ras Laffan - home to a refinery which Iran had said was a target.
19:37
"Ras Laffan fire brought under control with no injuries, Qatar says: Qatar's interior ministry says the fire in Ras Laffan has been brought under control, and no injuries have been reported. In a separate update, Qatar's defence ministry says five missiles were launched at the country from Iran through the day.
20:11 (first non-attributed Iran did it sighting)
"Gulf ties fray after Iran hits critical Qatari infrastructure: The moment my phone vibrated this evening with the shrill security alert from the Qatari government I suspected this may be connected to the promised missile strike by Iran on its neighbours. Ras Laffan, where fire crews have been battling to put out a fire after it was indeed struck..."
23:39
"Macron calls for halt to strikes on civilian infrastructure: French President Emmanuel Macron says that there must be "a moratorium" on strikes that target civilian infrastructure, following the attacks on areas that produce gas in Iran and Qatar."
00:49
"Qatar says Iran's 'brutal aggressions' have crossed 'all red lines': The Qatari Ministry of Foreign Affairs has issued a statement condemning in the "strongest terms" the Iranian attacks on energy facilities in Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates...Earlier, an apparent Iranian missile strike hit Qatar's Ras Laffan industrial site."
01:18 (second non-attributed Iran did it sighting)
"What you need to know: Iran....has since struck Qatar's Ras Laffan, a city home to a refinery that Iranian state media had declared was a target."
02:44
"Trump threatens to 'massively blow up' major Iranian gas field: ...He goes on: "The United States knew nothing about this particular attack, and the country of Qatar was in no way, shape, or form, involved with it, nor did it have any idea that it was going to happen." But Iran didn't know this, Trump writes, and that its retaliatory attacks on Qatar's Ras Laffan were made "unjustifiably and unfairly".
03:45 (third non-attributed Iran did it sighting)
"Another Iranian strike leaves more damage at Ras Laffan energy facility: Before Trump's warning, Iranian state television reported that missiles had struck the Qatari energy complex at Ras Laffan again. Qatar's state energy company confirmed."
03:57 (fourth non-attributed Iran did it sighting)
"Oil jumps 4% as strikes continue: The jump comes after Iran's South Pars gas facility - one of the world's largest natural gas fields - was hit. Iran retaliated by targeting a major liquefied natural gas export facility in Qatar, causing "extensive damage", raising concerns over the global energy supply.
04:29 (fifth non-attributed Iran did it sighting)
"All fires under control at Qatar energy complex: Qatar's Interior Ministry says that all fires at the Ras Laffan energy facility have now been brought under control without any reported injuries...As a reminder, the Ras Laffan facility was hit by Iranian rockets early on Thursday morning, in retaliation for an Israeli strike on the South Pars gas site.
07:00 (sixth non-attributed Iran did it sighting)
"Attacks on Gulf nations continue throughout the night: Attacks on Middle Eastern nations continued through the night after Iran threatened to hit US-linked "oil and gas refineries" in the Gulf following a strike on its South Pars gas field....Following Iranian retaliatory attacks on its Ras Laffan energy complex on Wednesday, Qatar announced that it had been hit again the early hours of Thursday - with damage but no casualties reported."
07:10 (seventh non-attributed Iran did it sighting)
"Gulf states bearing the brunt of Iranian fury: Both Qatar and the UAE had condemned the attack at Iran's South Pars gas field, warning it threatened "global energy security". Now the Gulf is bearing the brunt of Iran's fury. In Qatar, Ras Laffan was hit repeatedly but fires there are now under control.
07:15 (eighth non-attributed Iran did it sighting)
"Qatar sites huge importance to global energy markets: These strikes, in Iran and Qatar, mark one of the most significant escalations since the conflict began when it comes to energy infrastructure. Ras Laffan in Qatar is the world's largest liquefied natural gas plant...Just north, in the Iranian part of the Gulf, is the South Pars gas field – which Donald Trump's threatened to destroy "entirely" if Iranian attacks on Qatar persisted.
07:54
"Price of gas rises sharply in Europe and UK:The price of gas has risen sharply following the attack on Qatar’s Ras Laffan complex."
09:09 (ninth non-attributed Iran did it sighting)
"Shell says Qatar gas facility damaged but 'safe' after attack: Shell says its natural gas facility within Qatar's Ras Laffan Industrial City was damaged by fire following Iran's attack on the site."
09:59 (tenth non-attributed Iran did it sighting)
"Sultanate of Oman condemns attacks on Gulf energy sites: The Sultanate of Oman has condemned Iran's attacks on energy sites in Qatar, the UAE and Saudia Arabia, according to the country’s state news agency...It comes after Iran struck Qatar's Ras Laffan energy complex on Wednesday.
11:40 (eleventh non-attributed Iran did it sighting)
"Gas prices spike as Israel and Iran strike energy sites - what you need to know: Strikes on energy sites: It comes after Iran struck the Ras Laffan gas plant in Qatar, causing "extensive damage". Iran's strike was in response to Israel hitting its South Pars gas field, located offshore in the Gulf, between Iran and Qatar.
You can see that some of this attribution stuff is just the BBC taking its time to confirm what happened. It becomes more confident in assigning responsibility unilaterally as time passes. The BBC does seem to show a greater willingness to assign blame when Iran is the aggressor, but some of this might also be down to Iran claiming strikes while Israel maintains its silence. There's also the fact that early doors it still could have been the Americans. I do think that there's undeniably a far greater willingness to use Iran in the headline though. The word 'Israel' was used in precisely one headline regarding the strikes at South Pars and in that singular case the BBC still took care to name both them and Iran as co-aggressors. Meanwhile Iran's name appears as the aggressor in 8 headlines regarding the strike at Ras Laffan.
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You won't have the energy to laugh!
Ya. There will be so many "help out Israel" packages coupled with critical bills. And things will not get passed for the Americans until enough money is given to Israel.
'Iran war' is used a lot in headlines cos it's short and everyone understands it. Keeping headlines short can be really difficult, but is massively preferable.
Depends on what you're trying to say and what's verified etc too.
It's also the location of the war.
I agree, that's why I tried to find only those terms that were used to indicate an "aggressor" that was tied to a specific act, rather than looking for their use as a more nebulous epithet. So things like "Israeli strikes" and "Iranian missiles" count whereas stuff such as "Iran War" would not. So I thought take two analagous acts (Iranian oil field, Qatari gas installation) and compare how the two aggressor countries are reported on with regards to each.
He still thinks he's in a Fox news studio? 
Man who blew up fishing boats and schoolgirls says "Be nicer to my mushy brained boss."
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Iran: Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi: Our response to Israel's attack on our infrastructure employed FRACTION of our power. The ONLY reason for restraint was respect for requested de-escalation.ZERO restraint if our infrastructures are struck again. Any end to this war must address damage to our civilian sites.
Qatar Energy CEO:
- One of the two gas-to-liquids facilities was damaged as a result of the Iranian attack.
- We will lose 17% of Qatar's liquefied gas exports for a period of between 3 and 5 years.
- We may be forced to declare a force majeure in long-term contracts, for a period of up to five years.
Qatar Energy CEO:
- One of the two gas-to-liquids facilities was damaged as a result of the Iranian attack.
- We will lose 17% of Qatar's liquefied gas exports for a period of between 3 and 5 years.
- We may be forced to declare a force majeure in long-term contracts, for a period of up to five years.
UK and allies say they are ready to join 'efforts to ensure safe passage' in strait of Hormuz
The UK has joined European allies and Japan in saying they were ready “to contribute to appropriate efforts to ensure safe passage through the strait of Hormuz”.In a joint statement, Britain, France, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands and Japan condemned Iran’s attacks on commercial vessels and oil and gas facilities in the Gulf, while expressing “deep concern” over the escalating conflict.
The statement said:
It continued:
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I hope that doesn't mean we have been strongarmed into deploying military assets to clean up this mess.
Yeah, I wonder what this means. Going in now, or maintaining that they'll only enter once the situation has calmed down?
I guess Trump has managed to bully all the European leaders again.
Indeed, but some seem annoyed it doesn't encompass Israel being the aggressor.
Trump wins, again.
Surely we're not going to volunteer to walk the plank for Trump and Netanyahu? "appropriate efforts" sounds fairly noncommittal. You never know though, some of our leaders have lost the plot and probably see a warped sense of duty in laying down their people's lives for the US and Israel.
I am not sure that statement means military assistance.
No wonder Trump was annoyed that daddy attacked Iran's oil facilities.
Edit: apologies, @Ahmer Baig already posted about this
Edit: apologies, @Ahmer Baig already posted about this