Whether right or wrong, you can't drop that then tell him to get back on topic without a rebuttal
The U.S. and Israel attack Iran | Peace deal finally on?
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In the latest edition of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) chats to author, Dan Williamson, about his new book 'If I Hadnt Seen Such Riches' which chronicles our 1990/91 European Cup Winners Cup victory, which is a trip down memory lane for those old enough to remember it and a vital history lesson for those who don't.
Whether right or wrong, you can't drop that then tell him to get back on topic without a rebuttal
The nostalgia is understandable given they are older cities, and their glory days were back when not everything around the world looked exactly the same (before the internet).
Maybe less to do with “foreign culture” though, in terms of lifestyle Beirut is about as Western as it gets in the Arab world.
All my Iranian friends, colleagues, acquaintances are ecstatic. Happy for them. Hopefully some positive change in the near future.
Good memory. That's not quite the same though as Obama then went straight to the White House and watched it all unfold live from the Situation Room.
Firstly, it was a one time in and out extraction/elimination mission and not the start of a war or prolonged campaign. Secondly, he was where he should have been, not behind a curtain in a golf resort where we all know security is piss poor at best. How do we know his top donors and friends weren't watching too? Or being updated?
The big problems and questions are why isn't he at The White House where it's secure? And is this how seriously he takes it all? Especially the national security side of things.
My wife’s family very afraid as the missus aunts in a Tehran hospital right now and other family staying inside.
Hopefully it’s ok but she is a kind lady who I know well and hopefully this helps people understand that as usual it’s the general population that will suffer for this.
Hopefully it’s ok but she is a kind lady who I know well and hopefully this helps people understand that as usual it’s the general population that will suffer for this.
I didn't say Dubai was about foreign culture or even Western culture, i said it was a bastardisation of western consumerism, the closest thing to it in the west would be a cross between Las Vegas, Zurich, Atlanta airport and a large shopping mall.
As to Beirut, they have a vast history to backup their culture and city aesthetics.
Also add to the fact that UAE has now very close ties with Israel. Amongst all the countries in Middle East, UAE is not closest to Israel.
Iran has confirmed Khamenei's daughter, son in law and grandchild were killed.
Didn't Pakistan sign a defence treaty with UAE not too long ago? Or was that with another country?
Ok, so the discussion is about city aesthetics and not culture. Looks like we agree.
Saudi Arabia.
Death of Khamenai daughter , son in law and grand child confirmed.
Khamenei’s death will be confirmed soon. If he was alive the’d have shown it already for propaganda purposes.
One down then. Now if only the iranians could bomb the shit out of bibi and send him to hell...
Even if we (hopefully) end up getting rid of the Iranian regime, Trump has already lost.
“ The final number of dead at the Shajareh Tayyebeh girls’ school in Minab, southern Iran, is 108 school girls, a spokesperson for the Iranian Red Crescent Society said — more than half of the roughly 170 students who attend the school.It remains unclear whether the strike was carried out by the U.S. or Israel. A CENTCOM spokesperson said they were “looking into” the reports.Drop Site reported from the site of the massacre, speaking with families who lost their daughters. The school was reduced to rubble, and dozens of girls were trapped beneath collapsed concrete, with residents digging with their bare hands. Parents wandered through the debris in shock, calling out their children’s names. The full report is below.”
“ The final number of dead at the Shajareh Tayyebeh girls’ school in Minab, southern Iran, is 108 school girls, a spokesperson for the Iranian Red Crescent Society said — more than half of the roughly 170 students who attend the school.It remains unclear whether the strike was carried out by the U.S. or Israel. A CENTCOM spokesperson said they were “looking into” the reports.Drop Site reported from the site of the massacre, speaking with families who lost their daughters. The school was reduced to rubble, and dozens of girls were trapped beneath collapsed concrete, with residents digging with their bare hands. Parents wandered through the debris in shock, calling out their children’s names. The full report is below.”
The rat ran away to Germany apparently
So a peace deal was on cards with Iran agreeing to zero stockpiling of enriched uranium. And yet here we are...
This is a very good read.
This is a very good read.
These "negotiations" are all for show anyway. The us would keep demanding stuff until it was impossible for the iranians to accept.
feck it, a sniper in germany, anyone...
They wouldn't, the moment he pops up in public he'd be getting hit. He'll be in hiding if alive.
Blocking Strait of Hormuz hurts China, India and Europe the most. US can always turn up their production. I feel like Venezuela and Iran are both US's pokes against China. China will retaliate in some way? Choke Taiwan and semis?
He is dead
Khamenei confirmed dead
Iran state media confirm the death of Khamenei
Iran state media has confirmed Khamenai death.
I believe this is a piece of fiction, though based on reports of a peace deal, which he links to in a reply. I did like the writing, though.
Sadam says hi
Nah. No one is helping Iran.
If China is in trouble it meant the world is too in trouble. Half the world's goods is made in china. Price will increase and economy will tank
Nobody is going to war over Iran, it's a lost cause by now militarily
How accurate is this?
I have seen and understand the security layers and next in line protection etc, it's the future being harder part I'm not knowledgeable of. I guessed things wouldn't become rosy in the garden overnight, but this is saying things could be exponentially worse under a new leader.
Khamenei is dead. Good.But I have family in Iran. My dad is there right now. And I'm not celebrating yet. Here's why.Iran built the most layered contingency plan on Earth for this exact moment.
Four levels of succession for every key position. Pre-authorized military strikes. Regional commanders who don't need orders from Tehran to act.As you read this, there is already a new Supreme Leader. We just don't know who.
This isn't Maduro. The government didn't get overthrown. The system absorbed the hit. That's what it was designed to do.Every credible intel assessment says the same thing: a post-Khamenei Iran is more likely to get harder, not softer.
More IRGC. More dangerous. Potentially worse for the Iranian people than Khamenei himself.
Don't breathe yet. There's a long way to go.
I have seen and understand the security layers and next in line protection etc, it's the future being harder part I'm not knowledgeable of. I guessed things wouldn't become rosy in the garden overnight, but this is saying things could be exponentially worse under a new leader.
Khamenei is dead. Good.But I have family in Iran. My dad is there right now. And I'm not celebrating yet. Here's why.Iran built the most layered contingency plan on Earth for this exact moment.
Four levels of succession for every key position. Pre-authorized military strikes. Regional commanders who don't need orders from Tehran to act.As you read this, there is already a new Supreme Leader. We just don't know who.
This isn't Maduro. The government didn't get overthrown. The system absorbed the hit. That's what it was designed to do.Every credible intel assessment says the same thing: a post-Khamenei Iran is more likely to get harder, not softer.
More IRGC. More dangerous. Potentially worse for the Iranian people than Khamenei himself.
Don't breathe yet. There's a long way to go.
As it is, this is definitely not directly credible. This gothburz account also posted this series of tweets, on rolling out MS CoPilot at a company: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1999124665801880032.html. It's the exact same writing style on an entirely unrepeated topic. And this Peter Girnus seems to be a cybersecurity dude from Texas - who wouldn't be the person involved in either the negotiations or CoPilot story. Seems to me like they might both be AI creations.
There might be all kinds of truth behind this story, but we'd need other evidence to know what's what. By itself, this can't be trusted.
Don’t think our record with being shook by kids dying in school is gonna support that statement. 108 white, blond, and blue eyed Christian children could be gunned down at an Iowa school on Monday and it wouldn’t matter.
I know that. You know that. They know that. They will not care.
Same as above. They don’t care.
Yeah, I know you know that mate. Sorry, I misinterpreted your reply.
Is he asking the West and Israel to go harder? And not stop it in a week or so? Doubt that will be good for the family in Iran he is so concerned about.
Woke up to this depressing news earlier. Not unexpected but it still hits hard when it happens. Us lot in the UK are going to get dragged into another one of the US's wars.
There may be contingencies, but I'm not sure things will go to plan. It's possible some of the successors were killed. It's possible some IRGC commanders will try to seize power or subvert the succession plan of Khameinei/the Guardian Council. We could end up with some Death of Stalin shenanigans between various factions.
With continual bombing by Israel and the US, the chance of a sudden, popular uprising seems vanishingly small.
My heart goes out to you, your family, and your friends. I hope they all come through this.
So is this anything to do with stealing more oil to sell then?
This thread is just all over the place.
They’ll probably claim they’re all terrorists.