Perhaps they shouldn't have launched a war if their stockpiles were low then, thats their problem, it should not be the problem of the UK.
Hopefully somebody talks sense to Starmer, sending to Israel instead of Ukraine would be ludicrous.
The U.S. and Israel attack Iran
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Perhaps they shouldn't have launched a war if their stockpiles were low then, thats their problem, it should not be the problem of the UK.
Hopefully somebody talks sense to Starmer, sending to Israel instead of Ukraine would be ludicrous.
Pictures of 6 US personnel killed in KC-135 crash. Poor souls died for a pedo president and a genocidal maniac.
If this is true and sincere (big assumption) then it reads like Iran conceding the leverage they were trying to establish in the Persian Gulf. The US and particularly Israel are not dependent on the Persian Gulf, how much Israeli shipping do you reckon goes through there anyway?
It's posturing. It's always been a catch 22. They need to close it, but China needs it open. It's just a face saving thing; Israeli/US ships won't be flagged as thus anyway, and both produce huge amounts of natural gas relative to their populations.
No insurer is going to allow ships through until it calms completely; Iran cannot keep it closed in a hot war. It's why there was surprise when they did close it. It was always more effective as a threat.
Indeed. If I were Iran, I wouldn't have it open at all except perhaps to BRICS members. Or, additionally, in a kind of inverse tariff regime, also upon those states who do not collaborate with the US/Israel re war policy. Which was their stated criteria, more or less, anyway. The reason is to intentionally feck the energy economy so that the US cannot afford the price of war. It's not difficult to see why you'd do that.
They basically did close it though, for all functional purposes with one or two exceptions and I'd say they could keep it closed if they wanted to -- it's one of the easier things for them to do considering the rest of their aims.
My apologies, no need for you to elaborate. It was only on the Guardian last night and a number of other places quoting a US official. But I guess it can't be true because it seemingly makes you uncomfortable - and we all know that to be the only true method of verification. Thanks for your input.
I was wondering what he meant was nonsense to be honest seeing as this has been reported by pretty much all the major news organisations and networks.
Is this what Trump was meaning by fake reporting?
Aye, and they probably could in isolation. But the world [read: China] needs it. It's unsustainable. So they can't really keep it that way. Also [combined with the below] why it was more useful as a threat.
That said.... The mosaic doctrine is in full force there right now, with 31 independent commands acting almost autonomously. It's probably not that easy for them to recall the orders, especially if the IRGC itself is calling the shots. Decentralised command has many advantages, and you could argue that it's worked exactly as intended and exactly as they prepared. In the event of central communications loss, each command was to act on its sealed orders, until told by a verified and recognised authority to stop. The foreign minister almost certainly is not that authority, especially as it kinda contradicts the supposed words of the new supreme leader. So walking it back will be either difficult or impossible. So yea, its more of a mess than I indicated in my initial post.
Imo the likely scenario is an MEU or two land within the next month, followed by a quick sweeping of the regime. And then the chaos or worse than ensued in Iraq when they had no succession plan, nor any idea of how to implement one.
It's been syndicated from a single report based on a Semafor reporter. (who is a white house correspondent to be fair.) which is fairly high credibility. Not doubting she's been told it, but it doesn't really tally with facts on the ground.
Kataib Hezbollah (Iran-backed militia in Iraq) released an FPV drone video of an attack on the US Victory Base near Baghdad. It was just a matter of time before the US would have to deal with FPV drones.
This.
If this continues, I can see some emerging market economies defaulting.
Also imo, it's becoming obvious Trump has two choices, accept an embarrassing defeat or send troops. That cnut will choose the sending troops.
The prosecution of this war has always been in the US/Israel's court. No other country wants to be involved , even when Iran has attacked parts of their country, no one has seriously tried to attack Iran, simply to defend themselves as best they can.
Some other countries might have cheered (quietly) from the sidelines when Iran's nuclear ambitions were thwarted, nobody really wants to see the regime in Tehran being able to threaten with such weapons and bring the concept of 'martyrdom' into the equation'.
However, as with Israel's devastation of Gaza, nobody interfered, and nobody is going to do so when Trump pulls back (because of economic pressure at home) and leaves Israel free to pursue Hezbollah ... to the same fate as Hamas.
Many suspect this time this is 'the end game' for Israel, because it knows it has to be victorious against such as Hamas and Hezbollah in particular, or it is vanquished.
Bit rich Isreal complaining on Iran targeting civilian populations no?
Understatement of the year
Propaganda machine in action.
”Vanquished”? What’s going to be happen if Israel cannot reach their so called end game to make them “vanquish”?
Iran should just accuse them of using human shields or hiding IDF terrorists in schools and hospitals.
So, when the US and Israel inevitably don't find the nukes in Iran either, where will they claim they are next?
they aren’t looking for them nor have they stated they are
They are not? Weird they keep claiming they are "days/weeks/(insert whatever)" away from obtaining them then.
I know its not the actual reason why they are doing this, but, its been one of their so-called excuses for launching this "special operation".
Yeah they are trying to stop them from getting the capability of making them. Maybe I misunderstood your post
No, no misunderstandings, i could find clips that are decades old of Bibi saying Iran is getting nukes any day now.
Its the same lies that we saw with Iraq, its just an excuse/lie to go to war with an enemy.
Turkey is in NATO. Not to mention, officially a democratic country. I don't think even Germany would be silent if Israel/USA attacked Turkey. In fact, that attack would would probably completely isolate Israel (and USA if it joined).
Turkey seem rather ambitious, its a NATO-country, and a country well capable of defending itself on its own.
Surely there are much easier targets in the region they could try and install a friendly regime in.
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Oman seem to be quite a loud voice in this war in opposition to America/Israel. I'm not clued up at all on the geo-politics of it all, but I don't imagine they've been too impressed with Omans stance
That can be removed by giving Trump some solid gold scepter or something like that
Hasn't it been said that Turkey is next on the list?
Edit: "A new Turkish threat is emerging… Turkey is the new Iran.”. Naftali Bennet. Feb 2026
They kind have retorted back with it in some reports
Basically the hotels attacked were places where military and Mossad were staying. So obviously when the furore started that they were bombing hotels it was said stop using human Shields
Oman are essentially the Switzerland of the Middle East, they've always vehemently kept out of sectarian geopolitical strifes, and have even made any allusion to sectarian rhetoric in their country illegal. Their stance during all this isn't surprising.
I know we've insulted you in the past, but we've fecked it badly, please pretty please help us
They can feck right off
I think I saw a video somewhere, probably before this war started where Hegseth had to answer multiple questions including if he cheated on his wife right after his daughter was born (think he has like 3 wives) and he brought God and The Bible into his answers. There was also talks about Hegseth found drunk in a bar and shouted "kill all moslems".
How did such a person become secretary of war? can't even manage his own family and you want him to manage wars?
Trump brought in all the other wronguns just like him. Birds of same feathers flock together.
How did such a person become secretary of war? can't even manage his own family and you want him to manage wars?
Trump brought in all the other wronguns just like him. Birds of same feathers flock together.
You are in no position to demand, so please feck off.
Major infighting happening now between Anti-war Alt- MAGA and Pro-war Zionist MAGA.
Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly, Candace Owens vs. Mark Levin, Ben Shapiro, Laura Loomer.
Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly, Candace Owens vs. Mark Levin, Ben Shapiro, Laura Loomer.
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It’s a noble endeavour. But 80 percent of MAGA voters support the war and 6 percent oppose it.
The flighting is internet entertainment at this point.
It’s a noble endeavour. But 80 percent of MAGA voters support the war and 6 percent oppose it.
The flighting is internet entertainment at this point.