Roane
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Morning all.
Just wanted to have a discussion on the phrase " the United way". Its something I hear a lot and even when discussing players who have come up in our youth set up/academy and/or indeed Ole, I hear they've been bought up the United way.
Well what is the United way? In your opinion.
Also do people think that maybe this is hindering us? Do we not maybe need to look beyond that? So Pep or Klopp are now implementing their own philosophy rather than what maybe the City or Liverpool way. To be fair it probably applies more to Klopp and Liverpool.
But it's a new era and the Liverpool method of ex players and internal promotions didn't take them to the promised land. It was "outsiders" implementing their own philosophy that got them to where they are now. So likes of Rafa and Klopp and possibly Houllier and Rodgers.
Without trying to be controversial it wasn't likes of Carra and Gerrard that have taken Liverpool to the next level but, taking the current crop, VVD and Mane and Salah. Potentially Suarez and and even Torres?
Do we need to maybe need to look beyond the United way and look to establishing a new "way" with managers and players?
We always point to likes of Neville, Becks, Giggs and Scholes as United through and through yet arguably the most influential player for us was Cantona. A short sharp tenure that had more of an impact on the team and the players mentioned than previously.
I could go on to metion Evra and Vidic and Rio as players bought in who had that passion and winning mentality but were not youth/academy products. That was about SAF imo so the SAF way if you will. Players who were bought in and bought in to the managers philosophy. You can see this with Pep and Klopp too.
Football changes as do systems. So do we need to too? Do we need to find the next system or "way" rather than trying to stick to or revert to "the United way", whatever folk think that was/is?
Thoughts?
Just wanted to have a discussion on the phrase " the United way". Its something I hear a lot and even when discussing players who have come up in our youth set up/academy and/or indeed Ole, I hear they've been bought up the United way.
Well what is the United way? In your opinion.
Also do people think that maybe this is hindering us? Do we not maybe need to look beyond that? So Pep or Klopp are now implementing their own philosophy rather than what maybe the City or Liverpool way. To be fair it probably applies more to Klopp and Liverpool.
But it's a new era and the Liverpool method of ex players and internal promotions didn't take them to the promised land. It was "outsiders" implementing their own philosophy that got them to where they are now. So likes of Rafa and Klopp and possibly Houllier and Rodgers.
Without trying to be controversial it wasn't likes of Carra and Gerrard that have taken Liverpool to the next level but, taking the current crop, VVD and Mane and Salah. Potentially Suarez and and even Torres?
Do we need to maybe need to look beyond the United way and look to establishing a new "way" with managers and players?
We always point to likes of Neville, Becks, Giggs and Scholes as United through and through yet arguably the most influential player for us was Cantona. A short sharp tenure that had more of an impact on the team and the players mentioned than previously.
I could go on to metion Evra and Vidic and Rio as players bought in who had that passion and winning mentality but were not youth/academy products. That was about SAF imo so the SAF way if you will. Players who were bought in and bought in to the managers philosophy. You can see this with Pep and Klopp too.
Football changes as do systems. So do we need to too? Do we need to find the next system or "way" rather than trying to stick to or revert to "the United way", whatever folk think that was/is?
Thoughts?