Keane was never ever a realistic choice. I'd say they interviewed him so that by the time they got round to speaking to 1st and 2nd choices like Howe, then they can play hardball in negotiations regarding annual salary and say to Howe 'Listen Keane will take the job for X amount per year, we're hoping you'd take the job for a similar salary?'
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
The fact that Keane is somehow being linked with a CL job, whether that's in Scotland or not, with his managerial record, is about as good a result as he's entitled to expect. You'd need to be crackers to put him in charge of your football club.
I'd say his managerial record is better than Ole's prior to the latter getting the United caretaker job.
I'd agree. But all that tells us is that Ole shouldn't, by any sort of logic, have gotten the Utd job.
I'm not sure about his managerial prospects either but what he did for Sunderland was a decent achievement. He won the championship and kept them in the league in their first season in the Pl (I think). Not bad. Ipswich was a disaster though.
Buzzing if we get Howe. A proper ambitious appointment. If only they'd shown such ambition when replacing Rodgers instead of giving it to that clown we don't name.
They loved him at Sunderland for the most part, changed the way players and staff intertwined, had everyone on a levelish level, everyone was important in what ever role they had and they sat together in canteen with them, he'd be on phone asking how u15s were getting on while on bus to first team game, he galvanised the club,
Which one was better im not sure, but Keane is not as bad as a manager as is spoken about here
Yeah, he's forthright enough about his mistakes at Ipswich.
Yes, it really seems this caricature is taken at face value. Like you said, did a good job at Sunderland.
No arguments there.
Keane hasn't even been a manager for over a decade. He is now a tired old TV pundit that gets reeled out for the shock factor where he calls players "idiots" and what not. When does he ever do any actual analysis? His only coaching experience since the disastrous spell at Ipswich was to be assistant to two dinosaurs in Martin O'Neill and Paul Lambert.
Then there's his admission that he was "glad" one of his players had a heart attack because it took attention away from his PL Sunderland losing 3-0 to League One Luton. He is a psychopath, IMO. I think any big job he would get would end in disaster due to his personality being so incompatible with modern day footballers.
Well, we're about to see the questions answered we've always wondered about Howe, can he handle a club other than Bournemouth, can he handle a big club, & can he handle the pressure of not only playing good football & winning some games & losing some games, to having to win EVERY game. Looking forward to the challenge.
firstly Keane’s record wasn’t better than OGS.
secondly, even if it was, as least OGS was a current manager, not one who hasn’t done the role for a decade!
if Keane was seriously considered, they’ve done well to sidestep an awful appointment.
Will be interesting for sure but think he'll be okay
Got a lot of work to do mind you. They have a core of about 5 or 6 players then he'll have to build up the rest of the squad round that. Celtic fans will be expecting him to come in & win the league first season.
Did he win back to back league titles then like Ole did?
Well I think we can see where you have nailed your plastics to
Is there a decoding machine I can put this line through so I can understand it?
I'm not saying since Ole came in, he hasn't defied expectations, he has. Hence why he's still in a job. But no, I don't think the Molde job compares to the Sunderland job. Would you think highly of someone winning league titles in Slovenia?
Not a fan of I told you so but ya
I told you so
I think he won two titles in his country and got his club regularly into Europe which is slightly better than yoyoing with Sunderland
But aren't ya glad he did!
Howe maybe ends up taking a similar career path to Brendad Rodgers.
Who was better at their smaller PL club? Howe or Rodgers?
Who was better at their smaller PL club? Howe or Rodgers?
He wouldn't have got the job if it wasn't for the amazing run he took us on. Think even his biggest critics would have found it hard to sack him at that point.
the feck is this? Why don't you go through your own post history and give the "we" documentation to back up your opinions so the "we" can decide if you are "right or not".
No offense intended, and none taken
Happy Easter mate.Saw this on a Celtic forum, now that it's becoming protracted (Howe being unveiled). Quotes from Charlie Austin.
He said: "I see people saying the job is too big for Eddie, but if you look at the managers that have been there over the last 10 years, Eddie will be the best one suited for the job.
"It’s going to be a rebuild. Celtic aren’t going to overturn it in one season, are they? Let's be honest.
"He’d be the perfect manager to go in and rebuild the football club. Give him two or three years and he will have them laying a glove on Rangers again.
"The Celtic job isn’t an overnight one."
Understandably the bolded bit didn't go down well
He said: "I see people saying the job is too big for Eddie, but if you look at the managers that have been there over the last 10 years, Eddie will be the best one suited for the job.
"It’s going to be a rebuild. Celtic aren’t going to overturn it in one season, are they? Let's be honest.
"He’d be the perfect manager to go in and rebuild the football club. Give him two or three years and he will have them laying a glove on Rangers again.
"The Celtic job isn’t an overnight one."
Understandably the bolded bit didn't go down well
For some reason “ aspire to be like city “ came into my headSaw this on a Celtic forum, now that it's becoming protracted (Howe being unveiled). Quotes from Charlie Austin.
He said: "I see people saying the job is too big for Eddie, but if you look at the managers that have been there over the last 10 years, Eddie will be the best one suited for the job.
"It’s going to be a rebuild. Celtic aren’t going to overturn it in one season, are they? Let's be honest.
"He’d be the perfect manager to go in and rebuild the football club. Give him two or three years and he will have them laying a glove on Rangers again.
"The Celtic job isn’t an overnight one."
Understandably the bolded bit didn't go down well
Howe is a cracking signing for them. Celtic have recruited quite well over the years until recently enough. They just need to get back to that level again. He recruited pretty well for Bournemouth when they were down the divisions and should be able to spot an affordable player (insert Liverpool ripping him off joke here) Is the money there?
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I think Howe would be great for Celtic. Obviously, every managerial appointment is a risk to dome extent, there are no guarantees that any manager will be a success. But, if Hows were appointed and didn't cut it, I dont think the Celtic Board can be blamed, if they back him.
Most Celtic fans I speak to seem sold on Martinez/Maloney as first choice. Cant see it happening but you never know.
Most Celtic fans I speak to seem sold on Martinez/Maloney as first choice. Cant see it happening but you never know.
It's somewhat of a unique job tbf, you're expected to win the league every year, but realistically, where is the money?
Howe is a great appointment for them I think though. We'll see what he's made of that's for sure
Howe is a great appointment for them I think though. We'll see what he's made of that's for sure
That's one thing he didn't do in the Premiership, but yeah he assembled good players in League One/Championship. His bigger signings in the Prem were a bit hit and miss an the stuck to the core of players who got them promoted despite spending relatively big money.
I think he's a good manager though, and he will do well at Celtic. He won't be in charge of the recruitment there anyway, as they have appointed a new director of football.
There's very little money in Scottish football, which hinders them in Europe, but the Old Firm have way more budget then the rest of the league put together, so that's why they are expected to win the league every season. Celtic will spend more than Rangers this summer, but the problem will be that they need to buy almost a full team, whereas Rangers are settled & buying from a position of strength now.
Celtic haven't appointed a new DoF yet, & that is seen as a sticking point with the appointment of Howe. Celtic had earmarked a guy from Man City to take over that role, who is currently in charge of City's football partnerships. However Howe apparently wants to bring Richard Hughes with him from Bournemouth who would be in a similar role. The new guy they have already appointed actually takes over from Lawwell as Chief Executive.
Ah, my bad...is that the guy from the RFU?
Not really sold on Howe so be interesting to see how he does.
Yeah, thats the chap. Was meant to take over in the summer but they are bringing it forward so he can get to work ASAP.
So golden boy Howe has rejected the move. I wonder if Keane is still in the frame.
Never got the feeling Howe wanted the job whether he bottled it knowing unless he won everything like Rogers did he would be looked at as a failure only he knows.
Howe wants the Crystal Palace job. What a nutter. Could win titles with Celtic, get experience of managing in Europe. But no he wants the Crystal Palace job. Jees.
Howe likely wants something closer to home considering when he was a Burnley he got home sickness.
He knew where Celtic are based when he went to meet the owners, it's got nothing to do with that.
He turned the job down because he wanted to bring his own staff with him and couldn't.
He's also got the language barrier to contend with.