It’s definitely less slippery than flu when it comes to vaccination.
The vaccines | vaxxed boosted unvaxxed? New poll
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
Yeah, it gives me hope that things can go back to normal in the next 3-5 years.
Austria & Denmark chum up to Israel instead of EU for second generation vaccines
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Jesus christ man, don't tempt fate!
Its looking good so far but don't forget we're only just over a year into the actual virus life itself and literally a few months into a handful of countries rolling out the vaccine on a vast scale.
Let's give it a few more years yet before announcing our victory over it.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-56253139
Pilot scheme in Leicester to contact patients (contacted by a doctor) who had declined the vaccine to discuss their hesitancy. Quite a large number (over 60% in one practice) changed their mind and took the jab.
Older patients in the BAME community are usually more sensible and authority-trusting. My experience has been they are not vaccine denialist strictly but a few common themes (alcohol or pork concern in the muslim community, altering DNA etc) but for a lot of them it was their younger relatives that were more believing in the whatsapp nonsense that convinced them.
I think its a sensible thing to roll out and have an informed discussion nationally to the over 60s who are most at risk given the potential to save lives and change minds. Not sure if the will/time is there in primary care to do so.
Pilot scheme in Leicester to contact patients (contacted by a doctor) who had declined the vaccine to discuss their hesitancy. Quite a large number (over 60% in one practice) changed their mind and took the jab.
Older patients in the BAME community are usually more sensible and authority-trusting. My experience has been they are not vaccine denialist strictly but a few common themes (alcohol or pork concern in the muslim community, altering DNA etc) but for a lot of them it was their younger relatives that were more believing in the whatsapp nonsense that convinced them.
I think its a sensible thing to roll out and have an informed discussion nationally to the over 60s who are most at risk given the potential to save lives and change minds. Not sure if the will/time is there in primary care to do so.
5 years is a fecking lifetime
People will be doing what they want long before then vaccine or not
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What does that mean?
I think this is a great idea! Like you said, I'm not sure GPS will have the time to get through it for everyone, especially in the younger population but if they could, I think it would make a big difference.
There’s been a lot of concern about some new variants being able to evade our immune response (from prior infection and/or vaccination) This concern has been partly fuelled by studies which show that variants with a specific mutation (e.g. South African) don’t provoke the same increase in antibody levels that you see with the “normal” variants. Less antibodies means less immunity. However, your immune response isn’t limited to antibodies. There are also special cells called T cells which can help fight the infection. This (unpublished) study shows that there isn’t any significant difference in the T cell response with these new variants. Which would indicate that even if you don’t get as strong an immune response you definitely do get an immune response. Which could potentially be the difference between a flu-like illness and hospitalisation. Good news, in other words.
That's great thanks
Heh, I've been so negative for so long that I couldn't help myself. You're of course right, we can't get ahead of ourselves. There a few nasty twists and turns on the way, but it is amazing what has been achieved in a year - humankind can be amazing when it isn't busy killing itself.Jesus christ man, don't tempt fate!
Its looking good so far but don't forget we're only just over a year into the actual virus life itself and literally a few months into a handful of countries rolling out the vaccine on a vast scale.
Let's give it a few more years yet before announcing our victory over it.
It is long, but world wars lasted for around 5 years. It'll take a while for things to go back to the way they were.
Booked in for my first jab this Saturday which is surprisingly early (33 years old but asthma put me into category 6).
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It seems like things are escalating dramatically in the US in terms of production and distribution. Now imagine where we could be if we'd had a competent government last year.One of the primary issues for the US is the high rate of vaccine hesitancy among white Republicans, who have convinced themselves not to get the vaccine.
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I'm still not 100% clear why as I'm 29, but I had my vaccine today (the UK one, apparently GP surgeries can't provide the US one). Very easy process, got a text from my GP last Friday with a mobile number to call to confirm appointment
Getting the actual jab took about 30 seconds. Didn't even leave a mark or bleed like a blood test usually does.
Getting the actual jab took about 30 seconds. Didn't even leave a mark or bleed like a blood test usually does.
That is fecking brilliant news.
I'm kidding
. A year ago there was nothing guaranteed about a vaccine or treatments. Now we have both. Amazing stuff.Governments have not allowed it's use in the elderly due to a lack of data, but vaccination campaigns have been targeted squarely at that demographic. Until recently, very few people who have been eligible for a vaccine were eligible for the the AZ vaccine. It's been easier to give everybody one vaccine in one place than divide them up.
There is also a logistical element. Italy went from last week having 293 centralised hubs for distributing the Pfizer vaccine, to 1541 hubs, GP surgeries and community centres, with more to come. Those 1200 odd new locations have all had to start from scratch and that takes a little time. In the first few days there was something stupid like a 20% take up of the AZ vaccine but it's getting better now.
Finally you have the fairly well publicised trial cock ups and inferior data that has undermined confidence. People understandably want the best vaccine possible, and i think with a single shot J&J vaccine coming this will only get worse.
In other good news, the EMA is meeting on 11 March to approve the J&J vaccine, with commitments to receive 100 million doses by June.
Maybe not in Italy, if the American Catholic craziness makes it across the pond. Looks like the Vatican have already waded in too.
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Are you living with a pregnant person? My mate (also 28 and not vulnerable) has been called due to his partner being pregnant.
Agreed.
I personally know someone who was in the age bracket and vulnerable category who, when offered the vaccine early on, said no and didn't want it.
Now she has heard and seen some folk around her have it and wants it.
I think nervousness with something "new" has to be factored in rather than simply thinking it's all conspiracy theory type factors.
Hopefully as more and more people, from all age brackets and ethnicities, have it, it should provide reassurance for those who naturally nervous or have worries
Rang my GP this morning about something unrelated but asked where I might be in relation to getting a jab. I will probably be group 5, which is likely to be June or July. I was told that they had just done 11 over 75s for context of how slow it’s moving.
it’s shockingly slow in ireland
it’s shockingly slow in ireland
Just wanted to say thanks to everyone who sent a me a reply in here. Im on day 4 now and can say that I was worrying over nothing. Felt a little tired and spacey on the first night. A little tired on the Monday and Tuesday. A few very minor headaches over the first couple of days, but nothing horrible at all.
Now Im off to start worrying about the effects of the second jab in 12 weeks time
Now Im off to start worrying about the effects of the second jab in 12 weeks time
Nice one Norm. Glad to hear you're feeling more bouyant. I can't wait to get mine.Just wanted to say thanks to everyone who sent a me a reply in here. Im on day 4 now and can say that I was worrying over nothing. Felt a little tired and spacey on the first night. A little tired on the Monday and Tuesday. A few very minor headaches over the first couple of days, but nothing horrible at all.
Now Im off to start worrying about the effects of the second jab in 12 weeks time
Got my first Pfizer shot this morning. Remarkably painless and uneventful (so far). Was told to not be surprised if I feel a bit exhausted for the next day or two.
Good for you.
Supposedly the 2nd jab could show more effects.
I want! I want!
Ok Veruca.
We all do. Well, most of us anyway.
I keep thinking I’m near to being called but tbh my best chance now might be through my job. Construction is considered essential but still no sign of any...
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Yeah just getting impatient.
do you have a Kruger pharma near you?
My wife had her second Pfizer jab yesterday , no real side effects so far, just a slight headache.
It's Kroger I think. It's a grocery store chain.
Actually you’re right, a Kroger supermarket pharmacy
my bro told them he is a caregiver for his mother-in-law (he’s not). All they wanted was her name & DOB plus his insurance card & drivers license. They gave him a shot there and then.
So some potentially more good news. It seems that being infected with the SA variant potentially provides protection against the other variants and may mean you can’t get reinfected. The expectations is that the vaccines will be updated for this variant.
https://www.news24.com/news24/south...ted-from-re-infection-say-scientists-20210303
https://www.news24.com/news24/south...ted-from-re-infection-say-scientists-20210303
Mate, I'm honestly so happy to hear this. Well done for getting the jab, I can't imagine the difficulty in coming to the decision.Just wanted to say thanks to everyone who sent a me a reply in here. Im on day 4 now and can say that I was worrying over nothing. Felt a little tired and spacey on the first night. A little tired on the Monday and Tuesday. A few very minor headaches over the first couple of days, but nothing horrible at all.
Now Im off to start worrying about the effects of the second jab in 12 weeks time
If anyone thinks they can pretend to be me, I've been called for the jab at our GP practice back in England. Mind you, it might be a little difficult for @golden_blunder to easily pass as a 60-something woman of 5ft 1.
Yeah, the height would be a problem.If anyone thinks they can pretend to be me, I've been called for the jab at our GP practice back in England. Mind you, it might be a little difficult for @golden_blunder to easily pass as a 60-something woman of 5ft 1.
I dunno, I could give it a go I reckonIf anyone thinks they can pretend to be me, I've been called for the jab at our GP practice back in England. Mind you, it might be a little difficult for @golden_blunder to easily pass as a 60-something woman of 5ft 1.
The Mangina Monologues Pt. 2
Just white knuckled it. I figured what the hell. I could avoid it and it would still be in front of me today. Or I could power through and have it behind me. And here we are today and its behind me, with thankfully little in the way of side effects. The worst part was right after and having to sit up the back of the hall to wait 10 minutes to see if I had a bad reaction. I dont think Ive seen a clock hand move that slow since I was at school. But feck it, its done now. Its behind me, I can relax a bit now. Just have to go through it all again in 12 weeks. Which will be fun.