Huh? Why would he think that the J&J vaccine is poorer quality?
Detroit mayor stated that the J/J vaccine was of ‘inferior quality.’ This is apparently a thing here.
This whole thing has become a bad circus and that includes the scary clowns. Just make the damn vaccine easily available already. I'm wondering what will be the rules moving forward. Will the people who chose not to get vaccinated not be allowed in certain places ? Will it be required for anyone flying ? That's going to be the next debate once the majority of the population is vaccinated. It's never going to be over.
Absolutely not intended to call any poster out.. just remembered the DNA/mRNA talk here from a few months ago.. searched and saw these.. The feeling I got after reading the posts back in Nov was that DNA would be risky and mRNA is safer..
The J&J vaccine is an attenuated human adenovirus vectored vaccine. Not an mRNA much less a DNA vaccine.
They better not try any of that here. Much as Catholocism comes from here and is deeply ingrained in society, they seem pretty content to take their tax cheques and stay out of current affairs.
Oh. i read https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/health/johnson-johnson-covid-19-vaccine.html and thought it was the same as the DNA vaccine that was being talked about.
The J&J vaccine uses DNA to code for the production of spike proteins. That’s why it doesn’t need the extreme cold storage of the mRNA vaccines, because DNA is far less fragile than mRNA.
ok.. I read that article and remembered the posts here.. assumed it was referring to the same thing..
Those research papers were talking about how mRNA vaccines operate. They don't inject spike proteins or similar virus fragments into the body, instead they effectively trick the body into making some spike proteins (which the immune system then "kills"). In doing so they don't change the person's DNA, but they do temporarily subvert another part of some of the vaccinated person's cells to work as a kind of spike factory.
I think you’ve got that slightly wrong. The adenovirus doesn’t inject complete spikes. It injects DNA, which hijacks your own intracellular protein manufacturing apparatus (called ribosomes) to build SARS-COV-2 spikes.
Thanks for clarifying that. I've got used to thinking about subunit vaccines, and I've got too glib with the distinctions - as I feared!
That's only slightly less disturbing than the idea that more than half the cells in the human body aren't human.
To be fair Wibs, the official guidance from the Catholic Church is "have the vaccine, and if only one is available to you, have that one."
.That’s good news! Hope she makes full recovery.My 85 year old nana went into hospital with covid a couple of weeks ago, she started with covid symptoms the day after her vaccine, and went into hospital about a week after having her jab. She came home on Wednesday
I genuinely think that the vaccine has saved her life
thank you! I’m much more confident of that than I was two weeks ago
Page sixteen to seventeen here
What’s with the arbitrary age groups? 65-69 and now 56-59?
That is weird actually. Surely a typo?
Quote about ‘56-59’ is directly from Hancock. Does seem an odd distinction.
I was referring to this article rather than the official Vatican advice which is a lot better than it would have been under previous popes.
But it isn't a DNA vaccine, although some are in early phase trials I think I heard - that should be interesting when/if they get approved. The crazies will have a field day thinking they will suddenly sprout another arm and be controllable by the government or some such nonsense.
The 60-64 group only got their invites last week. The reason they mention the 65-69 group is because they can give a take up rate for them, it's too early to do that with the 60-64s.
Sorry my question was more simply “Why 56-59 and not 55-59?” It’s gone from intervals of 5 years to an interval of 4 years.
Ah, I misunderstood. The actual age driven invites are going out in chunks - presumably to stop the booking system overloading. So the 60-64 invite group in Manchester was actually a 63-64 group followed a few days later by a 60-62 group.
Ah that explains it thank you. I guess as you go down through the age groups the volume of people will naturally get larger and larger so the intervals will need to be flexible to reflect that.
It is a DNA vaccine, in that it uses a virus vector to introduce DNA which codes for the spike protein.
Thanks for sharing. I’m actually allergic to penicillin myself so that’s something I hadn’t thought off. Good it’s not a thing
Any idea where she caught it?My 85 year old nana went into hospital with covid a couple of weeks ago, she started with covid symptoms the day after her vaccine, and went into hospital about a week after having her jab. She came home on Wednesday
I genuinely think that the vaccine has saved her life
Is it? From what I read it is a non-replicating human adenovirus vector viral vector vaccine which contains DNA that encodes a covid protein, but isn't an actual DNA plasmid vaccine.
My 85 year old nana went into hospital with covid a couple of weeks ago, she started with covid symptoms the day after her vaccine, and went into hospital about a week after having her jab. She came home on Wednesday
I genuinely think that the vaccine has saved her life
That's great news. What was the cause of the COPD in the first instance?
A vaccine which contains DNA that encodes a covid protein. How is that not a DNA vaccine?! The only difference is the method by which the DNA is introduced into your cells.
Well she was in her 80's and must have been a smoker in her younger days so she's had it for more than a decade now
Yes. My cnut of an uncle (her son) went to visit her after having ‘a cold’ which turned out to be a confirmed covid case. fecking prick. He’s denying it completely though and saying that his symptoms started after he visited her
That’s really good news and a similar story to the one we found with my nana, no real breathing difficulties at all.
