Bastian
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Arsenal Football Club and Mikel Arteta are a disgrace
As reprehensible as Giggs was, it would appear his shenanigans were consensual - nothing to be proud of but cheating with his brother's Mrs isn't a crime in the eyes of the law, whereas violent sexual assault most certainly is.Ferguson play Giggs
Yes he was. Arsenal have handled the whole thing disgracefully.Was he offered a contract by Arsenal amid all the allegations? Didn’t see anything mentioned here
As have the media… and where’s Rachel Riley when she’s needed?Yes he was. Arsenal have handled the whole thing disgracefully.
Not surprised. Rotten club and managerYes he was. Arsenal have handled the whole thing disgracefully.
What's crazy about the reaction to this?I don't get the crazy reaction to this, but maybe I will get it the day they announce if he's guilty or not.
There's always oneWhat's crazy about the reaction to this?
The reaction hasn't been crazy at all. If anything, the reaction hasn't been crazy enough.I don't get the crazy reaction to this, but maybe I will get it the day they announce if he's guilty or not.
Andy Tate is that you?I don't get the crazy reaction to this, but maybe I will get it the day they announce if he's guilty or not.
How was he credibly accused? Is there irrefutable evidence?The reaction hasn't been crazy at all. If anything, the reaction hasn't been crazy enough.
Partey has been very credibly accused of rape by 3 different women and if you don't get it now then I doubt you'll get it if/when he's declared guilty.
Cause it's still a 50/50 decision, no matter what the papers say.What's crazy about the reaction to this?
We know a lot about it, considering the information out in the public domain. As did Arsenal and Arteta.Cause it's still a 50/50 decision, no matter what the papers say.
At the moment it's another rich man accused of rape. If it turns out he's guilty, then feck him and wish him the worst, but considering nobody knows anything real about it, some of the posts and reactions are evidently not very smart ones.
Genuine question: have you actually read much about this case? Because it doesn't sound particularly 50/50.Cause it's still a 50/50 decision, no matter what the papers say.
At the moment it's another rich man accused of rape. If it turns out he's guilty, then feck him and wish him the worst, but considering nobody knows anything real about it, some of the posts and reactions are evidently not very smart ones.
She doesn’t support Arsenal ?As have the media… and where’s Rachel Riley when she’s needed?
Yours being the clear evidence of it. There is plenty of whatsapp screenshots detailing everything that happened to one of them and Partey trying to defend himself, not denying anything. Nothing 50/50 about it...Cause it's still a 50/50 decision, no matter what the papers say.
At the moment it's another rich man accused of rape. If it turns out he's guilty, then feck him and wish him the worst, but considering nobody knows anything real about it, some of the posts and reactions are evidently not very smart ones.
There has been a lot of leaked stuff and tweets that have been deleted from accusers which do not paint a pretty picture.Cause it's still a 50/50 decision, no matter what the papers say.
At the moment it's another rich man accused of rape. If it turns out he's guilty, then feck him and wish him the worst, but considering nobody knows anything real about it, some of the posts and reactions are evidently not very smart ones.
Arsenal have no shame - they continued to play him regularly despite the allegations such was their desperation to win silverware.
There has been a lot of leaked stuff and tweets that have been deleted from accusers which do not paint a pretty picture.
There is very rarely irrefutable evidence of rape due to the nature of the crime.How was he credibly accused? Is there irrefutable evidence?
How was he credibly accused? Is there irrefutable evidence?
This must have been said before in the thread, but we're not lawyers and judges on this forum, and don't need to wonder whether situations meet the legal threshold that merits a conviction. We can just consider the situation's moral and ethic side, based on the information we have.The law is innocent till proven guilt.
To take 3 years out of a players short playing life because of allegations is a gray area isn't it .... he hasn't been proven guilty. And in the UK we hold up the values that you are innocent till proven guilty in a court of law.
No, it's "another rich man" accused of multiple rapes by multiple women, at least one of whom has gone public with her proof.Cause it's still a 50/50 decision, no matter what the papers say.
At the moment it's another rich man accused of rape. If it turns out he's guilty, then feck him and wish him the worst, but considering nobody knows anything real about it, some of the posts and reactions are evidently not very smart ones.
I think the reaction to Saville has been completely overblown. Was he ever charged? Was he found guilty?
People need to go back to calling him Sir Jim and remembering the good he did for charity. Clearly it was just another example of gold diggers going after a rich man. Bless his 'eart

he also beat up his girlfriend. In fact he was in court for this case when the PL hall of fame was created, and that's why he's not included there\As reprehensible as Giggs was, it would appear his shenanigans were consensual - nothing to be proud of but cheating with his brother's Mrs isn't a crime in the eyes of the law, whereas violent sexual assault most certainly is.
The law is innocent till proven guilt.
To take 3 years out of a players short playing life because of allegations is a gray area isn't it .... he hasn't been proven guilty. And in the UK we hold up the values that you are innocent till proven guilty in a court of law.
Didn’t the CPS bring that case against him to court twice and they couldn’t get a conviction against him? I am not saying he’s innocent or even a decent person but I don’t think we can definitively say he beat up his girlfriend, especially when a court couldn’t prove it on two separate occasions.he also beat up his girlfriend. In fact he was in court for this case when the PL hall of fame was created, and that's why he's not included there\
edit: Nicky Butt also had a similar case, albeit that one was when he's already in Newcastle.
But for someone who as informed of his players lives like Ferguson did, I found it unlikely he's not aware of his players tendencies of domestic violence. He probably just didn't care as long as they were good enough
And just ignore how vile it is? Seems a bit of a weird thing to do. The ugly stuff that bubbles to the surface should be challenged, we shouldn’t pretend it’s not happening.Just watch football for the entertainment it is because behind the scenes, it's very ugly stuff and that is most clubs.
Did i use the word "ignore" ? Did I imply it ?And just ignore how vile it is? Seems a bit of a weird thing to do. The ugly stuff that bubbles to the surface should be challenged, we shouldn’t pretend it’s not happening.
As she’s not an Arsenal fan I don’t get your point.As have the media… and where’s Rachel Riley when she’s needed?
City continued playing Mendy while he was out on bail I believe. It was only when he breached his bail conditions (can't remember what he did) and he was re-arrested that City officially suspended him.
United tried to keep Greenwood. Pretty sure I remember there was a whole press release about re-integrating Greenwood back into the squad and supporting him through the situation. Then after severe backlash from the football community, including a huge chunk of United fans to be fair, the decision was reversed and he was instead loaned out.
That's how I remember those two situations. Open to corrections if I've missed out on some details.
I think they had it about right in their post.*primarily United fans.
