Thomas Partey | 12th February 2026: Charged with two new counts of rape

As she’s not an Arsenal fan I don’t get your point.
As a United fan she was right to speak out when she did.
What? Ridiculous response. Talk about missing the point. So she should be selective about supporting women’s rights? Doesn’t matter as long as it isn’t United, I’d have thought the the club should really be irrelevant. Does she not think these three women’s accusations are not worth her support because it isn’t United?

The world we live in. Even so called United fans :rolleyes:are quite happy to let issues slide when it isn’t United? Rio’s suspension, Eric’s double suspension, Scholes’ suspension, Rooney suspension etc etc all unprecedented and/or never repeated. Do these accusations lack merit because it is Arsenal? I’d rather think the focus should be on the poor alleged victims rather than worry about who the alleged perpetrator plays for. She isn’t even a real supporter. Ironically, she fancied Ryan Giggs.
 
This must have been said before in the thread, but we're not lawyers and judges on this forum, and don't need to wonder whether situations meet the legal threshold that merits a conviction. We can just consider the situation's moral and ethic side, based on the information we have.

And that's entirely right and normal; everybody does this all the time all across their lives. I mean, if you think your coworker is a dick with whom you don't want to associate, you don't rely on the courts for that either.

Or more legal-adjacent: if an athlete says things that are clearly racist, but never cross the line into hate speech and therefore don't lead to action from the justice system - then that person is still a racist and you (hopefully) will despise them for it and won't support them. Again, without a verdict from a judge.

All this is entirely normal and acceptable behaviour. There is no reason why you wouldn't have similar considerations if someone is being accused of rape and there is all kinds of information in the public sphere. You can disagree with other people's opinions, of course - but saying there is no conviction just isn't a valid argument.

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Even though the responsibility ultimately lies with the club, I am a firm believer that managers/head coaches need to start putting their foot down with these types of issues rather than just selecting their team based on performances in training. As fans, we trust our manager to have a strong moral compass, otherwise they shouldn't be in the job.

I always thought Sam Allardyce should never have gotten another job since he continued to play Adam Johnson for Sunderland, even after he was arrested and charged with sexual activity with a child and child grooming. It was only after Johnson pled guilty on one count that the club severed ties with the player. A few months later, Allardyce was rewarded with the England managerial job. That, in my opinion, was more scandalous than what actually led to Allardyce leaving after 1 game.
 
Only a very small percentage of these kinds of accusations are false because of the horrible nature of what accussers go through and how ridiculously hard it is to get a conviction.

I'd rather know that the rare innocent person is unfortunately losing out on some of their career than know that many guilty rapists are just continuing on as normal.


So you just convict men and not allow them to prove their innocence ? I'm not sure what you are trying to imply. Either we get legislation then and change the criminal proceedings to Guilty till proven innocent or we stick with Innocent till proven guilty in the court of law.

Any sex crime is abhorant, but we must allow the criminal system to do it's thing. Until then you simply cannot convict him. None of us know what has happened in this case. Whilst yes many men may have escaped justice, there have also been many instances when women have made up stories too. That is why it's important to let the criminal proceedings play out.

As for Arsenal, if it's a case of he said she said, and no behaviour was untoward then what can they do ? If he crossed a line and was out taking drugs, behaving irresponsible then they should have come down on him hard. It's a tough one.

There was a league one player my cousin was dating. He was so paranoid that he put his phone on record throughout all their dates. Are we getting here ?
 
There was a league one player my cousin was dating. He was so paranoid that he put his phone on record throughout all their dates. Are we getting here ?
This is madness. Imagine being that paranoid about the media running a false story on Exeter's CB being accused of a domestic crime that you put your phone on record during all intimate encounters. Sounds like he has trust issues more than anything.
 
What? Ridiculous response. Talk about missing the point. So she should be selective about supporting women’s rights? Doesn’t matter as long as it isn’t United, I’d have thought the the club should really be irrelevant. Does she not think these three women’s accusations are not worth her support because it isn’t United?

The world we live in. Even so called United fans :rolleyes:are quite happy to let issues slide when it isn’t United? Rio’s suspension, Eric’s double suspension, Scholes’ suspension, Rooney suspension etc etc all unprecedented and/or never repeated. Do these accusations lack merit because it is Arsenal? I’d rather think the focus should be on the poor alleged victims rather than worry about who the alleged perpetrator plays for. She isn’t even a real supporter. Ironically, she fancied Ryan Giggs.
Her speaking out about United trying to reintegrate Mason Greenwood doesn't mean she's now obliged to make statements any time a footballer is accused of rape. Are you perhaps blaming her for you not getting to see Mason play for United?
 
What happened to Gylfi Sigurdsson by the way, was there ever any clear information about what happened? I know the investigation was dropped and he agreed not to sue GMP, but did he have any grounds for suing or was he quite likely guilty but they couldn't meet the right threshold of evidence. Any idea?
 
What? Ridiculous response. Talk about missing the point. So she should be selective about supporting women’s rights? Doesn’t matter as long as it isn’t United, I’d have thought the the club should really be irrelevant. Does she not think these three women’s accusations are not worth her support because it isn’t United?

The world we live in. Even so called United fans :rolleyes:are quite happy to let issues slide when it isn’t United? Rio’s suspension, Eric’s double suspension, Scholes’ suspension, Rooney suspension etc etc all unprecedented and/or never repeated. Do these accusations lack merit because it is Arsenal? I’d rather think the focus should be on the poor alleged victims rather than worry about who the alleged perpetrator plays for. She isn’t even a real supporter. Ironically, she fancied Ryan Giggs.
The original post was being snarky about Riley. That was the reason for my reply to it.
I’m female and a feminist so I don’t need lessons on women’s rights thanks.

You clearly missed the point of my reply.
 
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So you just convict men and not allow them to prove their innocence ? I'm not sure what you are trying to imply. Either we get legislation then and change the criminal proceedings to Guilty till proven innocent or we stick with Innocent till proven guilty in the court of law.

Any sex crime is abhorant, but we must allow the criminal system to do it's thing. Until then you simply cannot convict him. None of us know what has happened in this case. Whilst yes many men may have escaped justice, there have also been many instances when women have made up stories too. That is why it's important to let the criminal proceedings play out.

As for Arsenal, if it's a case of he said she said, and no behaviour was untoward then what can they do ? If he crossed a line and was out taking drugs, behaving irresponsible then they should have come down on him hard. It's a tough one.

I wasn't talking about conviction. I was talking about the club. It seems in your worldview the only time we can judge someone is if they're proven guilty in a criminal case. But for example a civic court has a different threshold for evidence which is much lower. A workplace can set their own threshold. We as random people can make our own decisions. It wouldn't take anywhere near the same amount of evidence for me as a club owner or manager to not want anything to do with someone accused of rape by multiple women with evidence in the public domain. The vast majority of the time it would be true. So I'd act however I can within the law to sever ties with that person or at least isolate them. Because the alternative is letting someone who is very likely a rapist continue on as normal in your club. You don't have to wait for a criminal court verdict to make some decisions on how to act.

There was a league one player my cousin was dating. He was so paranoid that he put his phone on record throughout all their dates. Are we getting here ?

That's just weird and creepy and perhaps your cousin should have thought about walking straight out the door when he started recording their dates.
 
So you just convict men and not allow them to prove their innocence ? I'm not sure what you are trying to imply. Either we get legislation then and change the criminal proceedings to Guilty till proven innocent or we stick with Innocent till proven guilty in the court of law.

Any sex crime is abhorant, but we must allow the criminal system to do it's thing. Until then you simply cannot convict him. None of us know what has happened in this case. Whilst yes many men may have escaped justice, there have also been many instances when women have made up stories too. That is why it's important to let the criminal proceedings play out.

As for Arsenal, if it's a case of he said she said, and no behaviour was untoward then what can they do ? If he crossed a line and was out taking drugs, behaving irresponsible then they should have come down on him hard. It's a tough one.

There was a league one player my cousin was dating. He was so paranoid that he put his phone on record throughout all their dates. Are we getting here ?
Many instances? The number of false accusations is miniscule in comparison to the number of rapists who get away with it
 
No, it's "another rich man" accused of multiple rapes by multiple women, at least one of whom has gone public with her proof.

At the moment, you're just another dude trying to handwave away rape accusations against a celebrity by insinuating that they're motivated by the guy's wealth. Right now you're the one who's evidently not very smart.
I couldn't give a rat's ass about Partey and his richness. I just had a friend last year going through this and he lost quite a lot, including his job.

On another note, I have seen now the leaks and it seems it's not that 50/50 so I retract what I said. (albeit them leaks can be manufactured, of course)
 
So you just convict men and not allow them to prove their innocence ?

I'm not sure arsenal has the power to convict people. They did, however, have the power to do the right thing and not make him one of the visible faces of the club until things were sorted out.

Arsenal's decision was not a legal one, was a moral one, and they fecked up.