Can't make any sense of the timing. Surely Arsenal are neither powerful enough to protect him from charges nor is the police willing to let it slide because/while he's at Arsenal
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Pretty sure there was when the rumours first began. Either one or two of the victims posted on twitter with accounts and receipts of the situation. Enough, along with being investigated to have grounds for suspending them until further notice.
I know a close friend who was automatically suspended from their job after being accused of rape.Not until you are charged criminally, or there is damning evidence in the public domain (which there hasn't been, seeing that it took years for an official police force to finally charge him)
And on the second bolded point, the FA is barely competent at their primary job of looking after football affairs. Now we want them investigating charges of sexual assault against players? I think that's a job best left for the police.
Dreadful from Arsenal, clearly a club with no morals. Look how differently the Greenwood situation was dealt with by United, some things are more important than football.
I'm glad we're held to account on things like this. It's mentioned earlier in the thread but we would've probably behaved in much the same way were it not for public pressure.Everyone knew about this. There were talks about Partey when the Greenwood stuff was going on (whataboutism).
But they’re not Manchester United. The world don’t have their pitchforks out.
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Why would Arsenal know? Would they have offered him a new contract if they knew?
MOD EDIT: The poster is speaking about the charges being made rather than the allegations.
He was first arrested in 2022. Are we supposed to believe Arsenal had no knowledge of this? He wasn't allowed to be named in the press but it was an open secret.Not until you are charged criminally, or there is damning evidence in the public domain (which there hasn't been, seeing that it took years for an official police force to finally charge him)
And on the second bolded point, the FA is barely competent at their primary job of looking after football affairs. Now we want them investigating charges of sexual assault against players? I think that's a job best left for the police.
Greenwood didn't play for more than a year and a half after his allegations and suspension.The rumors began in 2021-22, I think.
Either way, putting a player's career on ice for 3-4 years until the police decides to get their act together... That's just not actionable and the FA would lose if they attempted to make this a thing.
It's such a shame he is being found guilty already here without having his say in court. There are always two sides to a rape allegation. Not forgetting what happened to Mendy. Arsenal were right to stick with him until he was formally charged.Can't make any sense of the timing. Surely Arsenal are neither powerful enough to protect him from charge not is the police willing to let it slide because/while he's at Arsenal
Perhaps after his contract expired there was a risk he’d leave the country and so they expedited the charge? It’s the only thing I can think of but it did look suspect to me tooIs there a valid reason he is only charged once his contract is up or is it just coincidence?
Wonder if there will be the same level of focus that there was on United and Greenwood when they leaked he was potentially coming back into the squad.
I know a close friend who was automatically suspended from their job after being accused of rape.
The fact they had done absolutely nothing wrong did not factor into the equation, took six months for the enquiry to finish and for the accusations to be dropped, they didn't work throughout that whole time.
Yes but surely the existence of actual audio evidence of what Greenwood did being posted online is a key differentiator here.The whole time Greenwood wasn't charged he was being paid, Arsenal should have done the same just sent him away until investigations cleared and then bring him back in if they did, instead they didn't do anything just continued to play him week in week out
That was the club’s choice? Plus it was in the public domain. T Piddy’s case was under a super injunction I believeGreenwood didn't play for more than a year and a half after his allegations and suspension.
An (alleged) survivor made their allegation public back in 2022. I won't go linking them here, but they made them on Twitter, in part due to a lack of action by the Met. So we're not just talking about rumours.Not until you are charged criminally, or there is damning evidence in the public domain (which there hasn't been, seeing that it took years for an official police force to finally charge him)
And on the second bolded point, the FA is barely competent at their primary job of looking after football affairs. Now we want them investigating charges of sexual assault against players? I think that's a job best left for the police.
He was first arrested in 2022. Are we supposed to believe Arsenal had no knowledge of this? He wasn't allowed to be named in the press but it was an open secret.
It depends what the job is and what the allegations are.And obviously that was bullshit, which served zero purpose. Were they paid at least?
I'm of the opinion that suspension shouldn't occur until there is credible evidence that the offence may have occurred, which a criminal indictment shows. And even then, it's not an obligation at that point, simply a neutral choice by the employer. Once proven guilty, then sack them.
Can't make any sense of the timing. Surely Arsenal are neither powerful enough to protect him from charge not is the police willing to let it slide because/while he's at Arsenal
That’s what I can’t understand too.
I agree with this. The only 2 exceptions for me to this are:And obviously that was bullshit, which served zero purpose. Were they paid at least?
I'm of the opinion that suspension shouldn't occur until there is credible evidence that the offence may have occurred, which a criminal indictment shows. And even then, it's not an obligation at that point, simply a neutral choice by the employer. Once proven guilty, then sack them.
Don't think it was just social media. If I remember the details correctly, the victim had reported to the UK police but they refused to do anything referencing some technicalities (something about happening in a different country or something). And this was just one accusation.The charge is a different side and unclear if they did or didn't know but there is no way that anyone in Arsenal was oblivious to the allegations surrounding him. It's been following him on social media and grounds for c. 2 years.
Yeah could see that, and would be a way less insane explanationSomeone said something about Police wanting to charge him before he potentially leaves the country and signs for a new club - which would make sense?
The Prime Minister is an Arsenal fan and repeatedly defends Reeves when she’s off raping people with disabilities…Can't make any sense of the timing. Surely Arsenal are neither powerful enough to protect him from charges nor is the police willing to let it slide because/while he's at Arsenal
Is that why you've been hanging out in a wheelchair lately?The Prime Minister is an Arsenal fan and repeatedly defends Reeves when she’s off raping people with disabilities…
Unfortunate typo at the start but a good point. It's worth noting that they were also a player that was unable to be named in the uk press regarding the investigations yet we suspended them during the process and they never played for us again.When Gilfy Sigurdsson was arrested on suspicion of child sex offences in 2021, Everton suspended him immediately. Their statement was simply that a player had been suspended pending a police investigation, and that was it.
When Partey was arrested back in 2022, Arsenal could have done the same. Some people seem to be imagining there's some rule that a player has to be charged for the club to take action, but that isn't the case. Arsenal could have stopped playing him years ago.
It's simply the case that clubs don't take the sort of allegations levelled against Partey as seriously as the sort of allegations levelled against Sigurdsson.
If Arsenal wanted to they could have taken action, just like any other employer in that situation. They just chose not to.
An (alleged) survivor made their allegation public back in 2022. I won't go linking them here, but they made them on Twitter, in part due to a lack of action by the Met. So we're not just talking about rumours.
It depends what the job is and what the allegations are.
Unfortunate typo at the start but a good point. It's worth noting that they were also a player that was unable to be named in the uk press regarding the investigations yet we suspended them during the process and they never played for us again.