Avrim Grant for caretaker.
Thomas Tuchel | Gone to & from Bayern (In Summer)
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
CL winner technically.
Wouldn't have him as the school caretaker
Yeah, speechless myself...Fair enough
Outplayed by 10 man Brighton.
He has made Chelsea very boring to watch. Do they need to sign more attacking players?
Very poor performance. Didn't create one chance v a relegation candidate.
Yeah it was a poor performance but I still think he has done a good job he took over them 9th in the league and last 16 in CL and QF of FA Cup. Now he is 5th SF of CL and final of FA cup. Whether he will challenge next year is still unknown but so far he has done a good job on paper
4th, not 5th.
Considering we've played two intense cup matches since Brighton played against Everton 8 days ago, this is not that shocking.
They've always been boring.
They weren’t boring under Lampard.
They're a very tough team to beat under him but they're insanely boring. Some of their play reminds me of us under LVG. I'm sure Chelsea fans aren't complaining though, he's steering them to top 4 and a UCL semi.
I was defending him so that even does him more credit. He has done a good job with Chelsea. They have top 4 to aim for the FA cup which there favourites and outsiders for CL that is a good outcome
You're right, he's done a very, very good job since coming in.
Tonight was shit of course but I'll give the team a pass after a great result a few days ago and a super strange day today.
First the ESL will affect the players and he is only there a wet day so the consistency isn’t there right now so poor performances are expected now and then
Yep, could have been worse also. Probably better in the long run that Azpi got a rest but I'd have preferred Reece play there with CHO at wing back - thought Andreas looked generally uncomfortable and I'm not convinced he is a great fit as the wide RCB / RB hybrid in this system. Also would have given Gilmour a go - we suffered in midfield as I just don't think Mount is best suited to a double pivot.
Since he took over, they have scored 17 goals in 13 league games.
4 of those goals in one game means they’re averaging a goal a game over a dozen games. Fairly sure they’ve been no more prolific in cup matches. After spending an astronomical sum of money on attacking players. Like I said, boooooooooring.
Yeah, they are very good defensively but barely scores.
Mostly efficient but impressively dull.
Come on guys, look at the system, like at the patterns. That's real management.
It's undoubtedly real management, but one still does not have to like the style. And Tuchel needs to sort out the attack soon - not conceding goals is obviously great, but guarantees only one point, not the three they need to progress to CL ranks. The fact that he still has trouble getting them on the scoreboard could cost them.
He is on track to finish in the top 4 and has a chance at both the FA Cup and the Champions League. Not too shabby I would say.
But they were shit and Tuchel fixed that almost immediately. Pretty sure that is something the Chelsea fans accept at this stage of his tenure.
Invariably, clubs receive an uplift when a new manager comes in. Could you imagine if United drew 0-0 with 10 man Brighton? Serious questions would be asked about Ole's coaching, his game plan, and his reliance of individualism; all that coming off the back of the best form in the league.
Bro they played with 10 men for like 30 seconds. There are many points against Chelsea's performance. Why are so many people picking the least relevant one?
IndeedI wont bother to dig up old quotes from the Arteta thread, but you also had loads of people there praising his "identity" and his "patterns" about a month into his tenure
It was facetious mate, because that's exactly how it would be portrayed for the great pretender. Apologies, I thought that was obvious.
I think the reaction would depend a bit - if it happened like it did for Chelsea (creating no chances at all), people would be all over Ole, that is right (and rightfully so, a top team should not play that way, so I think it's fair to ask the same questions about Chelsea/Tuchel now).
If it would be a 0-0 where United players just wasted a lot of chances, this place would be all over the players and demand the club to buy all top strikers of the world at once to fix that problem
They seem built for KO competitions. Don't concede much and have a lot of individual quality in attack to score once, maybe twice. Wouldn't really surprise me if they somehow win CL now.
His job's not in danger. Although we were back to Lampard standard in the Brighton game last night. Totally toothless and so boring to watch. Just shows Kovacic is a massive player for them. The bad performance last night down to team rotation and fringe players not stepping up.
Also the ludicrous circumstances around the game, which has to be considered. The players are human after all.
Or how they miss Mason Mount influence further up the pitch.
incorrect. in 09/10 i think we scored 103 goals in the prem season. Only City have ever bettered it
Should judge him after he has brought in "his" players.
Boring goals
I think the point he's making is valid. If United drew 0-0 with Brighton at home the Caf would go berserk with Ole out and try to hang Pogba from the Stretford End.
It will sound stupid but it was never that entertaining though. A great side (one of the best) but very robotic. I used to describe you as ‘the machines’, but it was very effective.