This obsession with immortality is a bit disturbing, and I kind of get what you mean. On the other hand: Don't they die a bit more hopeful than others, perhaps similar to someone who sincerely believes in an afterlife? Is that necessarily a bad way to go? I'm undecided.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
I'm definitely in the 'immortality is creepy' camp. Death is simply a natural thing that happens to everyone and there's no escaping it.
Perhaps these "immortals" if achieved would actually end up going slowly insane? Would certainly be creepy and interesting seeing the psychological side effects.
What about the benefits to the military too of mechanised human soldiers?
Alas AI would probably get us first anyway
What about the benefits to the military too of mechanised human soldiers?
Alas AI would probably get us first anyway
What is the point to die old and eventually comeback old? Do they also expect that we will be able to rejuvenate people?
So much I'm sure of too. But do you see an issue when it comes to emotionally dealing with the inevitability of getting completely eradicated? If one can simply be totally rational and indifferent about it, okay. (But I wouldn't want that either, actually.) The problem is that it's usually not that easy, even for most irreligious people.
‘We will get regular body upgrades’: what will humans look like in 100 years?
Mechanical exoskeletons, bionic limbs, uploadable brains: six experts’ visions of 2118
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeand...rades-what-will-humans-look-like-in-100-years
Mechanical exoskeletons, bionic limbs, uploadable brains: six experts’ visions of 2118
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeand...rades-what-will-humans-look-like-in-100-years
When they say 'we', they mean the people who can afford it.
Also, cue SteveJ's next book, wherein everyone can technically become immortal and amongst the more depraved of the wealthy there arises a game in which they offer exorbitant sums to plebians to kill themselves to provide the entry fee for their progeny and the process is regarded as a noble and worthy charity.
$100 million and your kids will be set for life AKA can afford the procedure.
To be titled 11111000000 and available at any NeuraLink download outlet near you.
Also, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_longest-living_organisms#Revived_into_activity_after_stasis
Also, cue SteveJ's next book, wherein everyone can technically become immortal and amongst the more depraved of the wealthy there arises a game in which they offer exorbitant sums to plebians to kill themselves to provide the entry fee for their progeny and the process is regarded as a noble and worthy charity.
$100 million and your kids will be set for life AKA can afford the procedure.
To be titled 11111000000 and available at any NeuraLink download outlet near you.
Also, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_longest-living_organisms#Revived_into_activity_after_stasis
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I don't mind to die young or old or in 500 years. But I want the option lo die. I am not against transhumanism. But the way I would not extend my "life", would be in my mind being stored in data, because then it could be copied and multiplied. And those feckers than they would have a different life than mind once copied, they would know everything about me, and frankly I am sure I would not be able to stand another self, I am pretty annoying when I antagonize, and I am sure I would. Also, the copies could be ad infinitum, so it would not be any guarantee that I would "die", maybe someone would "resurrect" me in 1000 years. and be mind slaved, etc...
I am sure you read what I said but you wanted to look cool with your question
But I'll answer again. I want to die without the chance of my data being replicated forever and multiple times
This is kind of weird when you think about it. Do you have any kids?
Not like anyone would bother reproducing your shite data.
Agree
Nope, and I don't want them. But I didn't meant the replication of my DNA data but my conscience/sentiment data. My mind
The nothingness like before one is born? I find that comforting. Truly resting in absolute peace.
Spring jumping robots, feck that.
The guy at the end with the hockey stick is going to mysteriously die in his sleep.
That's all we bloody need, along with Trump, Brexit, Klopp etc.
They're the same when you get down to it, conceptually at least.
Like Altered Carbon.
I can imagine why this thought can be comforting, but it's an idea of peace I personally can't relate to. To me, this one life we have is all that matters (from a purely individual POV, there are other angles).
Did that happen in the book? I don't remember. That part got erased during last month's re-sleeving.
I am not well versed in philosophy nor on which kind of data is transferred through the DNA when you procreate, but are you suggesting that the conscience of myself, and my awareness as a being it can be transferred in the cells of next generations and they could pull out a "me" in the future from one of my descendants?
Imagine religious feckers getting their hands on this technology.
"Burn in a virtual hell forever, you non-believer."
"Burn in a virtual hell forever, you non-believer."
Extended lifetimes with body rejuvination would be fecking awesome. I seriously considered law when I was younger. Did something else instead, and now that option is basically closed off to me forever. Same with countless other things. If you didn't have a natural shut off date, you could do all sorts of cool shit. Save up for a few years and go back to college and start a totally new career? Fancy trying that sporting career you never put the required dedication into when you were 12 or 13? Sure, why not? Suddenly there's no time limit on opportunity, and that would be an amazing gift.
That's the philosophical part of it. Your data is the DNA, the blueprint that made you. We can clone other life forms. Imagine your consciouness and memories can be turned into a transferable form of data and input into a clone of yourself.
Now, to get back back to my original point, mixing your DNA with someone else's and raising the offspring is only slightly different from the sci-fi scenario above. Children are an extension of ourselves and rearing them involves some transfer of our memories and learnings to them.
Someone's been reading John Scalzi.
No, I don't read.
Only if we are real. If we are a hologram, then our consciousness is probably stored in some "hard drive" outside the simulation.
I wouldn't get anything done if everything could be done tomorrow. Man, I'd play a lot of video games.
I agree on that, but there is no foreseen technology to extract our memories/conscious and I hope never happen on mine. In the other hand, cloning wihtout your mind (so not yourself) and transhumanism is something likely to happen not that far away
Can we stop AI outsmarting humanity?
The spectre of superintelligent machines doing us harm is not just science fiction, technologists say – so how can we ensure AI remains ‘friendly’ to its makers?
https://www.theguardian.com/technol...-humanity-artificial-intelligence-singularity
The spectre of superintelligent machines doing us harm is not just science fiction, technologists say – so how can we ensure AI remains ‘friendly’ to its makers?
https://www.theguardian.com/technol...-humanity-artificial-intelligence-singularity
Could've sworn we had an AI thread. Maybe Damien deleted it so we stop talking about him.
"No," replies the human who recently set fire to his nose.
It boggles my mind how the smarter they get, the faster they'll become more intelligent. Imagine how quickly the world can advance, when their intelligence is multiplying that quickly? Whether we're still on it or not.
If this is the case, couldn't we see insane advancements in our lifetime?
I wouldn't worry too much of AI taking over the planet and ruling humans.
Sent by my android.
Ian Reubot
The Modem Prometheus written by tech-bro wankers.
A smug, lurid fantasy of anthropocentric mythos, futurist hubris and corporate cruelty. From Bound to Unbound to Bound for the bargain bin. What the story lacks in terms of compelling characters, intrigue and understanding, it more than makes up for in being an affective sedagive.
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A smug, lurid fantasy of anthropocentric mythos, futurist hubris and corporate cruelty. From Bound to Unbound to Bound for the bargain bin. What the story lacks in terms of compelling characters, intrigue and understanding, it more than makes up for in being an affective sedagive.
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We already have, haven't we?