Top 10 best squads in Europe on paper

[Theonas]

1- Paris Saint-Germain
2- Manchester City
3- Bayern Munich
4- Chelsea
5- Manchester United
6- Liverpool
7- Real Madrid
8- Juventus
9- Atlético Madrid
10- FC Barcelona

 

[Infordin]

1. Paris St Germain
2. Manchester City
3. Bayern Munich
4. Manchester United
5. Liverpool
6. Chelsea
7. Real Madrid
8. Barcelona
9. Juventus
10. Atletico

 

[Cheimoon]

1- Paris Saint-Germain
2- Manchester City
3- Bayern Munich
4- Chelsea
5- Manchester United
6- Liverpool
7- Real Madrid
8- Juventus
9- Atlético Madrid
10- FC Barcelona

I was thinking you're overrating Real Madrid and Juve and underrating Barcelona; but then swapping them around doesn't really change much and who would take their places in the list? I guess my conclusion is that the top talent is really getting centralized at a very limited number of top clubs, and at the EPL in particular.

 

[MVBDX]

Right now Real is 7-8th, but there's a chance that next year, Mbappe, Haaland and Camavinga join as free agents... then I'd rate Real as 3rd, even 2nd.

 

[Robbie Boy]

Chelsea ahead of United? No chance.

 

[Borys]

I'm not sure if City on paper is ahead of Bayern?
PSG
.
Bayern
City
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Chelsea United Liverpool
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Madrid
Juve
Atletico
Barca? Not so sure they're top 10 right now

 

[Valencia Shin Crosses]

Chelsea ahead of United? No chance.

Yeah I severely disagree with having Chelsea ahead of us. That's ridiculous.

 

[meamth]

Thread should be renamed "Who would've win the super League if it's happening now"

 

[Valencia Shin Crosses]

1. Paris St Germain
2. Manchester City
3. Bayern Munich
4. Manchester United
5. Liverpool
6. Chelsea
7. Real Madrid
8. Barcelona
9. Juventus
10. Atletico

Yeah I think this is it. There's really a top 3 that are clearly above the rest but I'd say we are the best of the rest.

 

[CanadianUtd]

Tier 1
City, PSG, Bayern


Tier 2
United, Liverpool, Chelsea


Tier 3
Madrid, Juventus, Atletico


Tier 4
Barca, Dortmund, Atalanta

 

[Zlatan 7]

Thread should be renamed "Who would've win the super League if it's happening now"

Then PSG wouldn’t be top of everybody’s list

 

[breath]

1- Paris Saint-Germain
2- Manchester City
3- Manchester United
4- Chelsea
5- Barcelona
6- Real Madrid
7- Liverpool
8- Juventus
9- Atlético Madrid
10- Bayern
PSG is the most expensive squad while Bayern is the cheapest

 

[Hastar]

While we have a good, or even fantastic starting eleven, our squad is fairly average.

Especially our midfield is deeply worrying. If any one of Hendo, Fabinho and Thiago is injured (which will happen over the course of the season) we are looking at unreliable (Keita, Ox) and raw (Curtis Jones, Elliott) options, along with an effective but old Milner.

If we are speaking of sqauds, then I would not put us in the top 8 of these lists.

 

[SirReginald]

In terms of squad depth I’d say (a little bias ofc) Chelsea has a deeper squad depth than Man Utd. Really the only position your depth is stronger than ours is Goalkeeper. Man for man people struggle to pin who has the stronger 11, replace all those with squad players and your only stronger than us in GK position, let’s be real here.

 

[Tallis]

Depends on whether we are judging squads in totality or the first 11. If later, PSG smoke everyone else but if it’s squad, it’s difficult to disregard City.

I agree with the post above that Chelsea have the deeper Squad than us. I probably prefer our first 11 over theirs but the difference is slightly in my opinion. We do have a younger squad though.

 

[romufc]

In terms of squad depth I’d say (a little bias ofc) Chelsea has a deeper squad depth than Man Utd. Really the only position your depth is stronger than ours is Goalkeeper. Man for man people struggle to pin who has the stronger 11, replace all those with squad players and your only stronger than us in GK position, let’s be real here.

Not really, Telles is a better LB than Emerson I would say.

Even in forward line, it could be argued there aren't that many differences.

If Chelsea play Lukaku, Werner, Havertz as the staring and United with Rashford Cavani Sancho

We still have Martial, Greenwood whereas Chelsea is looking at Ziyech, CHO, Pulisic? United's is better I would say.

 

[Lagger]

Bayern is not Tier 1 atm. And certainly not #3 in Europe. People are overrating them based on past glory. Mark my words, they will fall this year and 10 in a row won't happen.

 

[BrilliantOrange]

Bayern is not Tier 1 atm. And certainly not #3 in Europe. People are overrating them based on past glory. Mark my words, they will fall this year and 10 in a row won't happen.

I both agree and disagree..

Agree that Bayern dont have a top-tier squad
Disagree that Bayern is overrated as they dó have a top-tier team (awesomely managed team).

 

[Tallis]

Bayern is not Tier 1 atm. And certainly not #3 in Europe. People are overrating them based on past glory. Mark my words, they will fall this year and 10 in a row won't happen.

Where are the weaknesses in the squad in your view ? Who will finish ahead of them. Or is this some type of reverse jinx

 

[KillVearn]

Juve is definitely not in top 10.
For three years in a row we've been eliminated in the UCL by affordable match ups on paper and we also barely secured a fourth UCL spot in the technically worst Serie A in history.
We have tons of players in the roster that won't even be playing for Lazio or Roma, the likes of Bentancur, Bernardeschi, Rugani, Morata, Pellegrini, Ramsey, McKennie and many others. Unfortunately we are facing a pretty steep decline.

 

[Blood Mage]

City have a better squad than PSG don't let PSG's ridiculous attacking options fool you.

1) Man City
2) PSG
3) Bayern
4) Man Utd
5) Chelsea
6) Liverpool
7) Real Madrid
8) Barcelona
9) Atletico Madrid
10) Juventus

Dortmund, Inter, Atalanta and Leicester aren't far off threatening to break into the top 10 IMO.

 

[Nytram Shakes]

1. Manchester City
2, Paris St Germain
3, Chelsea
4. Bayern Munich
5. Manchester United
6, Real Madrid
7. Liverpool
8. Barcelona
9. Juventus
10. Atletico

 

[footballistic orgasm]

If we're talking about first 11, City isn't in the top 3 IMO, but squad depth is where their main strength is (except for the striker and LB positions).

 

[RedRonaldo]

1. PSG
2. City
3. Bayern
4. Chelsea
5. Liverpool
6. Man Utd
7. Real Madrid
8. Barcelona
9. Atletico
10. Juventus

 

[OleBoiii]

Tier 1
City, PSG, Bayern


Tier 2
United, Liverpool, Chelsea


Tier 3
Madrid, Juventus, Atletico


Tier 4
Barca, Dortmund, Atalanta

I prefer this tier system. You're probably onto something here.

 

[Rajiztar]

1.City
2.Psg
3.Bayern
4.Juve
5.United
6.Real madrid
7.Barcelona
8.Liverpool
9.Chelsea
10.A.Madrid

 

[footballistic orgasm]

Funny how quite a number of people here are trying to rate united squad lower than it should be. The only teams i see that clearly have a better first 11 than united is PSG and Bayern.
Squad depth, I'll say PSG and City.

 

[Dancfc]

Depends are we factoring in just squads or adding managers in the mix too?

 

[GhastlyHun]

Bayern is not Tier 1 atm. And certainly not #3 in Europe. People are overrating them based on past glory. Mark my words, they will fall this year and 10 in a row won't happen.

Agree for the most part, but i do think 10 will happen. We'll probably be in no man's land in Europe though.

 

[Dumbstar]

Funny how quite a number of people here are trying to rate united squad lower than it should be. The only teams i see that clearly have a better first 11 than united is PSG and Bayern.
Squad depth, I'll say PSG and City.

Welcome newbie. You're going to be a blast.

 

[Theonas]

Yeah I severely disagree with having Chelsea ahead of us. That's ridiculous.

Really didn't expect so many to put us ahead of Chelsea. I don't think there is much between us but I do think their midfield duo of Kanté and Jorginho is easily the best in Europe. Come to think of it, hard to think of a better midfield combination over the past decade with maybe Gustavo and Schweinsteiger and Real's trio a clear standout. Chelsea also have that pedigree now of a CL winning team. I just thought they have a clear advantage in that midfield and momentum wise over us.

 

[Rajiztar]

Depends are we factoring in just squads or adding managers in the mix too?

Or question will be asked like who is favourite to win cl and domestic league double.

 

[tenpoless]

1. Oil club
2. Oil club

 

[Karlos PFC]

Yeah I severely disagree with having Chelsea ahead of us. That's ridiculous.

Ridiculous the team that won the Champions League to be better than the team that lost the Europa League by the 7th best team in Spain?

 

[Infra-red]

Transfermarkt have a table comparison of the total market value of the top 18 players at each European club, which some people might think is representative of quality:

Club	MV Top-18 players
Manchester City	£889.20m
Paris Saint-Germain	£786.60m
Liverpool FC	£729.45m
Bayern Munich	£709.11m
Manchester United	£695.70m
Chelsea FC	£671.40m
Real Madrid	£670.50m
Atlético de Madrid	£616.95m
FC Barcelona	£613.80m
Tottenham Hotspur	£564.30m

NB the Chelsea value doesn't include the Lukaku transfer, which would lift them up in to third, behind PSG.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/ver...marktwertetop?kontinent_id=0&land_id=0&plus=1

 

[Chesterlestreet]

Ridiculous the team that won the Champions League to be better than the team that lost the Europa League by the 7th best team in Spain?

Yeah, but (seriously) we've actually strengthened considerably since then.

ETA I'm not saying we definitely have a better squad than Chelsea - just pointing out the obvious: which is that we have a much better squad now compared to when we lost the EL final - having added two nailed-on starters most would call top class.

 

[hasanejaz88]

Tier 1
City, PSG, Bayern


Tier 2
United, Liverpool, Chelsea


Tier 3
Madrid, Juventus, Atletico


Tier 4
Barca, Dortmund, Atalanta

United should definitely be up there with Bayern.

Bayern have lost a lot of quality in central defense with Alaba and Boateng leaving, with only Upamecano joining in.

They also lack numbers in that area. In CB they only have Hernandez, Upamecano and Sule, while Nianzou is still very raw to be considered a quality option. Pavard can be called on but he's their first choice RB and therefore they then will suffer there.

Similar for LB, where Hernandez is likely their secondary option, though they signed Richards, who is again unproven at this level. Once again they are relying on a couple of players to convert multiple positions.

This isn't an issue at United as we have a clear list of 2 good players to cover at each position. Shaw and Telles at LB is certainly better than Davies and Richards, while AwB and Dalot are also better than Pavard and Sarr (who has been terrible for them).

CM and ST is where Bayern can come out on top but that's only because of their starting XI. If you compare squad depth, you'll again find that United have a stronger bench with McTom, Matic, Mata, VdB, Lingard compared to Tolisso (chronically injured), Cuisane (who Bayern want to rid off), Roca (who barely played last season) and Musiala.

Bayern are terribly lacking in bench strength and that was evident when they lost to PSG with a string of injuries. They haven't been able to strengthen that bench due to Covid and therefore for this season again they'll have to reply mostly in their starting XI to win them matches.

 

[footballistic orgasm]

Welcome newbie. You're going to be a blast.

I'm not that new (talking about that, how do i get to have more than 5 posts a day though?).
And i said "clearly better". You could make an argument for City or Chelsea or maybe even Liverpool, but they aren't clearly better.

Ridiculous the team that won the Champions League to be better than the team that lost the Europa League by the 7th best team in Spain?

Anything can happen in a cup tie, that doesn't mean the winner is better.
Do you think Villarreal is better than United because they beat United?

 

[dal]

Last year I thought our squad was the fourth best in the premier league.

If we don’t sell anyone I think we have now easily the second best squad and easily top 5 in Europe.

Pressures truly on now Ole however I’m sure you will deliver.

 

[AltiUn]

PSG and City pick themselves I think. I rate Liverpool's starting XI higher than Chelsea and United's, possibly even higher than City's still, but their squad depth doesn't do them any favours. Really, I think there's very little separating 3-6 on my list, similarly there's little separating Real and Atletico. Barcelona a rung or two below due to obviously just losing Messi and a few gaping holes in their team, Juventus round out my top 10 overtaking Inter Milan due to the latter being picked apart.

With a really good midfield addition I think we'd create a gap between ourselves and Bayern as midfield is the big area we look weak compared to the other teams on the list.

1. PSG
2. City
3. Liverpool
4. Chelsea
5. Bayern
6. United
7. A.Madrid
8. R.Madrid
9. Barcelona
10. Juventus