This.Means feck all that.
What means something is advancing in positions and points season on season, something only Ole and Mourinho have managed.
Mourinho: 69 > 81
Ole: 66 > mid-late 70’s*
* had a great chance for 80 had it not been for shite scheduling, also deserves extra credit for doing it whilst getting to the EL final.
Ole though, more importantly, looks in a much more promising position to advance on points again next season.
Where have you been for the last 7+ years?Should be an expectation rather than a cause for celebration.
Unfortunately it's a hard job convincing some people that we are making steady progress. Top 4 isn't a trophy but it is a sign that we are gaining some consistency at winning league matches. Next step is backing Ole in the summer and truly go for the league title.Some replies in here stink of entitlement.
We have a lot of reasons to feel good about the team right now, and surely the point of sport is to recognise the good moments and appreciate them. Really want to see these guys lifting a trophy later in the month
2nd and a possible trophy isn’t far from the level we want to be at, not unless you expect the treble every year. There’s work to be done still, however we can quite easily make that step with a couple of signings in the summer.You can see this as a positive and still see this as far from the level Manchester United football club want to be at, btw. There’s no absolutes here. We’ve been a shite side for a while and we’re slowly remedying that.
Yes please. Im still fuming regarding the manner in which we got knocked out. I guess there has been progression because ole is now making subs quicker and not being stubborn and leaving players on the field who are under performing or an obvious liability like fred was.Cuddle?
It seems to be exactly how the players and the manager feels too.Yes please. Im still fuming regarding the manner in which we got knocked out. I guess there has been progression because ole is now making subs quicker and not being stubborn and leaving players on the field who are under performing or an obvious liability like fred was.
So, yes there is some progression and ole is learning on the job.
Im not celebrating, but im not feeling entitled, that's an over simplification of the feeling some of us have. I just know there is much more room for improvement.
Shaw had a good interview yesterday after the villa game. Being this close to city and looking at the points we dropped, we should have been closer. Shaw's attitude of not being content is exactly how i feel.
Fred was always destined to get sent off. Everyone but Ole saw it.It seems to be exactly how the players and the manager feels too.
I don't actually think he's got the wrong policy on subs, certainly not one that can be seen as a sign of stubborness or lack of ability. He's putting it on the key players to make it happen when we struggle. That's what it means to be a leader on a big team, and that's how it should be. I don't think he'd stimulate the development of the team by nicking people off and putting it on someone else's shoulders whenever it's not working well out there.
Okay, I was assuming your point about substitutions was more general than that. Lots of people complaining he makes too few subs, and too late.Fred was always destined to get sent off. Everyone but Ole saw it.
Anyway, point is, looks like Ole had learned his lesson the hard way. He subbed off Pogba for thr very same reason a few games ago.
Not sure what you mean mate.
I'm hoping this is sarcastic.Me neither, was a simple normal post.
We can't laugh at other teams fans celebrating this then when we do it, applaud it. If we win the Europa then that is something to celebrate.Well, if we've fallen that far behind, then surely it's something to get excited about that we are now taking clear steps towards getting back to where we want to be. Or should we rather just sit around sulking angrily over the fact we're no longer winning the league every second year?
Well then, don't laugh at other teams celebrating this. We are certainly not in a position to scoff at an achievement we've made for the first time in 8 years.We can't laugh at other teams fans celebrating this then when we do it, applaud it. If we win the Europa then that is something to celebrate.
So you'd prefer not qualifying then?Don't think I've ever celebrated getting top 4 or CL qualification. More attendance isn't celebratory and I always feel our participation is making up the numbers recently. We just crashed out at the group stages. The top 4 is more for our owners and revenue. We haven't got past the quarters since 2011 I think. that's nearly a decade of CL mediocrity yet we are meant to celebrate us getting into it like we are AEK Athens
Someone's got a hard-on for the enter key.This is an outstanding achievement considering we haven’t done this since Fergie retired. Cavani was I think a bit of a master stroke and has definitely helped us.
We must keep doing this now, the aim should be top 4 every season but we need to aim for the title next season.
We must never base our success now on what Ferguson did because he was a god like figure.
If only wine the europa cup he will be a most successful manager since he left and already is in my eyes.
Lukaku, Sanchez, Fellani have been sent packing and we seem to have a proper structure at the club.
Maguire although an obvious purchase has been brilliant, AWB has also added solidity and needs to keep improving, Bruno has been exceptional and true value for money and Cavani has been brilliant. James the only signing which hasn’t been great but for the money it was a good risk reward buy which we should profit on.
We now need proven premier league class attackers, Kane and Grealish would be my choice and make us incredible I think.
Regardless I for the first time in 8 years trust the football structure at our club to make the right long term descions.
Martial, Lingard, Rashford and Pereira were our main front 4 (to an extent) for half of last season, it was remarkable we finished third.
We needed strong leadership through that period and Ole’s job was apparently on the line this season also after a run of results.
Their has been real resilience and strong leadership through tough times.
We must build on this consistency and the football must get even better. We are in a good place but at United we must never rest, they know this and are well placed to propel us further.
People need to move on with the times, accept this is the reality now. Its like Arsenal fans still thinking they are a big club.Where have you been for the last 7+ years?
I really wish our fan base would start living in reality rather than the past.
From where we have been (which I agree is well below where we want to be) this is a good improvement and worth celebrating.
I agree with this. We are definitely improving under Ole and look better under him than we have at any point post Fergie so that's super. The manner of the CL exit was crushing, though. Given how weak the competition was, it was a massive missed opportunity. Getting knocked out of the FA Cup by Leicester was disappointing though that is the nature of knockout competition so not the end of the world. Progress has been made, finishing 2nd is an achievement and winning the EL is better than nothing. We've got a good platform to be more competitive next season assuming we recruit well in the summer. Onwards and upwards.Yes please. Im still fuming regarding the manner in which we got knocked out. I guess there has been progression because ole is now making subs quicker and not being stubborn and leaving players on the field who are under performing or an obvious liability like fred was.
So, yes there is some progression and ole is learning on the job.
Im not celebrating, but im not feeling entitled, that's an over simplification of the feeling some of us have. I just know there is much more room for improvement.
Shaw had a good interview yesterday after the villa game. Being this close to city and looking at the points we dropped, we should have been closer. Shaw's attitude of not being content is exactly how i feel.
Arsenal is a big club, of course it is. They've had a lean time for a good while, but it's still a big club. When a big club is struggling it has to respond and prove its credentials. We are in a similar place: we don't just accept not being title challengers any longer; we have to battle back as a big club.People need to move on with the times, accept this is the reality now. Its like Arsenal fans still thinking they are a big club.
Things change and we have to accept it and be proud of what we have achieved.
I will reply to this in May 2022.I'm hoping this is sarcastic.
Us and Chelsea fighting for the title means you've disregarded City, nevermind Liverpool.
Did you expect us to finish 2nd before the season started?Not quite celebration worthy, I expect us to finish second and would definitely celebrate if we get the Europa. Hopefully we actually build on this and get the players in that we need, Ole has every right to feel annoyed if we don't invest fairly heavily this summer.
