We will finish third. Last game's three points were crucial.
Chelsea vs Liverpool is a biggie.
Chelsea vs Liverpool is a biggie.
Top 4 Race 19/20 | duffer: "We [Chelsea] are getting 3rd. Despite what the lunatics in here think, Man United are not all that."
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
To take part in a sham?
no need to wait that long...
West Ham will be bang up for it no matter what they do against Watford
Remember a few seasons ago when we needed to beat them on the last day for UCL? feckers played like their lives depended on it and the fans were acting like it was the Champions League final itself, the cnuts
Remember a few seasons ago when we needed to beat them on the last day for UCL? feckers played like their lives depended on it and the fans were acting like it was the Champions League final itself, the cnuts
And I always get reminded of this
https://thebusbybabe.sbnation.com/2...-united-west-ham-1995-premier-league-last-day
Will never forget that day ..........
Yeah but that was at Upton park and with crowd. This game will be at Old trafford.
Latest Betfair odds. United favourites by the tiniest of margins:
United: 1.28
Chelsea: 1.30
Leicester: 2.18
United: 1.28
Chelsea: 1.30
Leicester: 2.18
What chances the United ole boys doing us a favour in gw37? Mourinho and spurs to beat Leicester by a couple, moyes to allow west ham to roll over and get spanked 5/6. We then go into Leicester game 3 points clear and 3/4 ahead on goal difference.
could do with a west ham win tonight so they’re safe by the time we play them.
could do with a west ham win tonight so they’re safe by the time we play them.
If Spurs beat Leicester by two goals and we beat West Ham by four, we could even lose by one goal at Leicester and still finish above them. Not likely but stranger things have happened.
A West Ham win tonight would be a boost, and it's nice to have Leicester playing first so we know what we need vs West Ham. Such an exciting end to the season this!
A West Ham win tonight would be a boost, and it's nice to have Leicester playing first so we know what we need vs West Ham. Such an exciting end to the season this!
If we defeat WH at OT and Mou makes Leicester drop 2 or 3 points, I'll forgive him for the abysmal autumn 2018.
Best for us if West Ham can beat Watford tonight, although as long as they don't lose I think they'll be confident of staying up. I don't expect Villa to beat Arsenal or Watford to beat Man City and those games are before West Ham play us. If West Ham got that point or more tonight, they're safe in my eyes even with a defeat to us.
It's kinda impressive how easily they beat Sheffield United with all these injuries.
I'd love to agree with you but Sheffield United were pedestrian.
I rarely saw any urgency or one touch passing from them, each player was happy to take 3-5 touches of the ball and hold onto it for a good few seconds before moving it on, and they rarely even did more than jog with the ball.
I think Sheffield United wouldn't have beaten Villa yesterday.
So, if West Ham beat Watford and Bournemouth fail to beat Southampton/Aston Villa fail to beat Arsenal, that's West Ham safe before they face us.
We are actually a bit lucky because both Wolves and Spurs are in good form and have everything to play for....and I cant see this Leicester-side beat Spurs away - with Kane now finally scoring again. Not to mention that Spurs are desperate to keep Arsenal behind them to get a place in Europe
Feck it, I am celebrating. They will recover.
Spurs vs Leicester
Chelsea vs Liverpool
You'd expect at least one of Chelsea or Leicester to drop points in those games.
Surely.
Chelsea vs Liverpool
You'd expect at least one of Chelsea or Leicester to drop points in those games.
Surely.
wolves still have a back door route to CL via Europa League, we may play them in the final
If Chelsea draws against Liverpool, it doesn’t change anything for us. Only if they lose, or if Leicester drops points vs Spurs, we can get a draw in the last game - otherwise we will need a win against Leicester to qualify (unless, of course, we trash West Ham by 5 goals)
Can't play Wolves in the final, only possible way to face them is in the semi final.
Mad scenario.
Utd and Leicester get into top 4.
Wolves win Europa, Chelsea recover against Bayern and win CL. 4th drops out of CL.
There's also the scenario where Chelsea draw against both Liverpool and Wolves while we beat West Ham but lose to Leicester and we sneak in ahead of Chelsea on GD. It's not impossible even though it's a lot of ifs.
Chelsea could drop points to Wolves as well so a win v West Ham would get us there, which I think they will
If Chelsea only manage a draw against Liverpool, and we beat West Ham, we go above them in the table. That's a huge advantage going into the final game of the season.
Anything less than three points against Liverpool will see Chelsea in trouble, depending on the results around them.
There are many scenarios. If Leicester wins against Spurs 1-0, and we win 5-1 against West Ham, then we will have identical GD and equal number of goals scored with Leicester.
We also go above Chelsea (on GD) if they lose to Liverpool and we only manage a draw against West Ham.
Weirdly, if Liverpool beat Chelsea and we beat West Ham (both the likely outcome), it actually suits us for Leicester to beat Spurs. We could be needing a draw last game against a team which is desperate for a win, or need a draw last game with a team that is delighted with a draw. I know which I’d prefer.
This is at Old Trafford. The only time I can remember them doing much at OT was the year Tevez scored. But I think we anyway won the league?
For me, it's all about Spurs. We need them to turn up and turn it on against Leicester. A win there for Leicester will be one foot in the top 4 for them. Anything else and we've got a decent chance.
I don't know about other Chelsea fans, but I would rather Utd beat Leicester and take the top four spot if it gives us a chance at getting top four, even if it means Utd end up finishing 3rd.
Yeah Chelsea play last though so there's no way I want Leicester to beat Spurs just in case Chelsea do get something out of the Liverpool game. I'd rather know we can get away with a draw if needed. I expect our forwards to score so only needing a draw makes us massive favourites in my eyes.
Yeh I’ll defo be wanting Spurs to win, just a weird quirk. I think Liverpool beating Chelsea is the big one for me. Its important we go into the final game with Chelsea needing a win to have any chance of overtaking us. Gives us a nice second chance if we do balls it up. Wolves is not an easy game.
Every time we play west ham at the end of a season they seem to turn into Barcelona. More nervous for that fixture than the Leicester.
If it comes down to it with Leicester on the last day the game will have a cup final feel to it.
Missing out out on goal difference would be heartbreaking, That 9-0 against Southampton may end up being the difference.
If it comes down to it with Leicester on the last day the game will have a cup final feel to it.
Missing out out on goal difference would be heartbreaking, That 9-0 against Southampton may end up being the difference.
If the next round of games finish where us and Leicester just need a draw to qualify in the final day it’ll be a bizarre game to watch. I wonder how both teams would play it
I was only joking
Feckin Southampton.
Concede NINE goals against Leicester, proceed to play the game of their lives against us, and then bottle it against relegation fodder the next game.
Concede NINE goals against Leicester, proceed to play the game of their lives against us, and then bottle it against relegation fodder the next game.
Well.. obviously? Why would any Chelsea fan not want a result which benefits their chance of making the top 4?
Actually, there is a very slight possibility of a play-off match between us and Leicester - if Leicester lose to Spurs but win against us by 1 goal, and at the same time we win against West Ham by many goals. GD, goals scored and head to head parameters may all be totally equal
Just play extra time/penalties in our game if that happens.