cyberman
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This is honeztly a shit race. England doesnt deserve a 4th spot
Right on the money. I still think we will comfortable make top 4. Chelsea have overachieved with their team while we have been unlucky. These things tend to even out and it won’t be long before we hit a good run. I’m confident the only game we are losing to a against Liverpool but I also trust them to also beat Chelsea. Right now we just have to be patient.This is honeztly a shit race. England doesnt deserve a 4th spot
Problem is the injuries to Pogba and McTominay and Chelsea have top class midfielders in Kante, Kovacic, JorginhoRight on the money. I still think we will comfortable make top 4. Chelsea have overachieved with their team while we have been unlucky. These things tend to even out and it won’t be long before we hit a good run. I’m confident the only game we are losing to a against Liverpool but I also trust them to also beat Chelsea. Right now we just have to be patient.
Man. United being comfortably 4th will probably mean finishing in the low 70s points (so to be 4-5 ahead of Chelsea and any other challenger). Need to win 13 out of your last 17 (16 if you're writing off Liverpool).Right on the money. I still think we will comfortable make top 4. Chelsea have overachieved with their team while we have been unlucky. These things tend to even out and it won’t be long before we hit a good run. I’m confident the only game we are losing to a against Liverpool but I also trust them to also beat Chelsea. Right now we just have to be patient.
It is a great league for the neutrals and Liverpool fans.This is such a confusing/infuriating year for top 4 predictions!
Before the season: We're a work in progress, but we have as much of a chance as Chelsea, Spurs or arsenal, given these teams' issues.
After the opening day: Ole's at the wheel! We'll give Pool and Shitty a run for their money!
After 9 games: We are so shit we'll be lucky to get in the top half! Ole out! Lampard is brilliant, Arsenal are better than expected and Spurs will find their form at some point.
After 16 games: He has turned it around! Ole in! We'll definitely catch fat Frank. Arsenal are going down!
Now: We are shit, we'll be lucky to make top 6! Arteta is turning into Pep the 2nd, Chelsea are over their slump. Let's hire Brendan Rogers!
End of the season: 6th place? Next year will be our year!
Yes hopefully, though won't count any chickens.Chelsea don't deserve to be in top 4 but the team below them are even worse than them so they will get that 4th spot by default.
I will be surprised big time if you guys don't sign anyone this January. It will be a huge missed opportunity to increase the gap even more as I already mentioned the teams below Chelsea are in a bigger mess.Yes hopefully, though won't count any chickens.
If any of the teams all the way down to 15 ish get on a run of good results they'll be able push for 4th.
We need sort our home tactics / form. If we can marry our away form with home we'll be able wrap 4th up.
Big if though, we've been woeful at the bridge recently.
Very interested to see if we setup differently in next PL home game or go in the market in Jan.
Need solve the problem, mainly that we just can't score much or at all against teams sitting in against us.
You say that but all the English teams have made it through to the knock out stages this season. Liverpool and City could go deep this season again.This is honeztly a shit race. England doesnt deserve a 4th spot
What you're saying sounds totally logical but Chelsea haven't won back to back league games since the start of November.If we don’t buy we have no chance of top 4. Team that can’t win more than two games in a row is never going to make it. Top four will probably be as it is now.
Chelsea back in control really. 5 point gap, you've got Liverpool away next week while Chelsea have Newcastle away (so decent chance it will increase) and then Chelsea- Man. United start of next month.Saying this very cautiously but it's starting to take a bit more shape I think. Before January I would have said virtually any of the teams from 4th to 10th could get the 4th spot but I'm seeing Wolves drop off the pace a bit, Spurs need a hell of a run, Arsenal I don't think will pull the points back and neither will Everton. Not sure about Sheffield United realistically either
Straight fight between Manchester United and Chelsea?
Well, they play arsenal the week after, while we play Burnley at home. Even against Newcastle, i wouldn't bet on them winning, they lost easier games this year.Chelsea back in control really. 5 point gap, you've got Liverpool away next week while Chelsea have Newcastle away (so decent chance it will increase) and then Chelsea- Man. United start of next month.
Still Chelsea did lose games over xmas so it's not set in stone they'll just stroll to 4th especially when CL starts up.
Agree. Depressing, isn't it?Liverpool
Man city
Leicester
Chelsea
Can't see anyone else getting in really.
its always been open. top 4 has much more twists than a title race. Much more points are dropped. 8 or 10 points in january is really not as bad as it seems. the club coming 4th isnt winning 6 games on the trot . Also if 5 players are vying for top 4 they all have to play each other and therefore must lose points.Chelsea have Arsenal, Leicester, United and Spurs as their next 4 games. 3 of them are at home but that's a tricky list.
Maybe the top 4 is a lot more open than I might have thought.
It's looking like a repeat of last season's shambles of a top 4 race where every team was seemingly determined to throw it away. In fairness it's just a really competitive league at the moment (excluding Liverpool). Could be the lowest points total in sometime that gets 4th.Everyone is shite
Exactly. This is what so many people fail to realise when they have a meltdown after dropping points and saying Top 4 is gone.its always been open. top 4 has much more twists than a title race. Much more points are dropped. 8 or 10 points in january is really not as bad as it seems. the club coming 4th isnt winning 6 games on the trot . Also if 5 players are vying for top 4 they all have to play each other and therefore must lose points.
I think people (myself included) are realising that the inconsistency seems to be becoming more common place as opposed to top 4 races from a few years back where the teams often looked a lot better and stronger and could put decent runs together. Maybe i'm not remembering past races right but I don't remember it being this ridiculous years ago. I mean last year's top 4 race was farcical in terms of the losses and dropped points that United, Arsenal, Spurs and Chelsea were having toward the end of the season. This season looks like it could be a repeat.Exactly. This is what so many people fail to realise when they have a meltdown after dropping points and saying Top 4 is gone.
The very definition of a top 4 race is inconsistency. That's why these teams are in a battle for 4th and not 1st.
It's standard practice to drop stupid points.
Spurs finished with 71 points lsat year before that pool with 75 and 76 and before that city with 66 . I have seen nothing thus far to show 4th place finishing any higher or lower than high 60s to low 70s which is where it almost always is We just probably didnt notice as we were competing for the titleI think people (myself included) are realising that the inconsistency seems to be becoming more common place as opposed to top 4 races from a few years back where the teams often looked a lot better and stronger and could put decent runs together. Maybe i'm not remembering past races right but I don't remember it being this ridiculous years ago. I mean last year's top 4 race was farcical in terms of the losses and dropped points that United, Arsenal, Spurs and Chelsea were having toward the end of the season. This season looks like it could be a repeat.
Yeah I just had a look and you're right. It just seems a more unpredictable league than ever when perhaps that's not really the case.Spurs finished with 71 points lsat year before that pool with 75 and 76 and before that city with 66 . I have seen nothing thus far to show 4th place finishing any higher or lower than high 60s to low 70s which is where it almost always is We just probably didnt notice as we were competing for the title
I think we thought Chelsea would do better after the bright start they had. Then they lost to West Ham, Bournemouth and Southampton at home. Everton too when they just had sacked Silva and now Newcastle.Yeah I just had a look and you're right. It just seems a more unpredictable league than ever when perhaps that's not really the case.
Anything can happen. Leicester still have to play City, Wolves and Everton and Arsenal.You guys still waiting?
We performed bad against the top two, but we still have almost 3 PPG per bottom 14. Consistency.