Think we will drop points somewhere along the way so not going to feel confident unless Leicester or Chelsea drop a few more.
Top 4 Race 19/20 | duffer: "We [Chelsea] are getting 3rd. Despite what the lunatics in here think, Man United are not all that."
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We’ll get there one way or another. I’m fairly confident of how we’re playing now. I just pray Bruno isn’t injured and we should be okay.
Must be 20 pages of posts on here now from people who can't do simple maths
Yeah as much as I think Tottenham are dreadful, I still feel they’ll get something off Leicester. Also there is chance SU could get something too.
Sorry I meant in the coming fixtures.
If we win our next 4 games, there's a pretty good chance we'll only need a draw on final day against Leicester. It would put us on 68 points, for this to be enough we would need
Leicester to drop points in 1 of their games against Bournemouth, Sheffield and Spurs.
or
Chelsea to drop points in 2 of their games against Sheffield, Norwich, Liverpool and Wolves.
I think there's a decent chance one of these scenarios plays out.
However, obviously not a given that we will win our next 4, or we can get the result we need in the last game against Leicester. A lot of arrogance on here acting as if it's inevitable we'd beat Leicester in the last game if we needed to win.
Leicester to drop points in 1 of their games against Bournemouth, Sheffield and Spurs.
or
Chelsea to drop points in 2 of their games against Sheffield, Norwich, Liverpool and Wolves.
I think there's a decent chance one of these scenarios plays out.
However, obviously not a given that we will win our next 4, or we can get the result we need in the last game against Leicester. A lot of arrogance on here acting as if it's inevitable we'd beat Leicester in the last game if we needed to win.
That general point is entirely correct - indeed I have made it myself.
The specific point I replied to was that we need only match Leicester's results and the beat them. That is wrong.
Anyway, it matters not. Let's just beat Villa.
Plus will be the day you lift the title, so I'd imagine it's a more motivated Liverpool than any game you'll have until then.
Chelsea will likely drop points at Sheffield United or Liverpool, especially with the scousers lifting the trophy that night.
Leicester will likely drop points at Spurs or Sheffield United.
I'm just not sure we've got it in us to win all our games.
Leicester will likely drop points at Spurs or Sheffield United.
I'm just not sure we've got it in us to win all our games.
True. We could lose to Villa and it will be out of our hands again. We’ll smash them though
Fair point. For what it's worth, I think you'll get in the top four. I don't think Chelsea or Leicester will win out and with your form, I honestly can't see where you're dropping points at the moment.
Maybe, but we're 4 points behind as well. A quick check on the odds of us beating Villa and Southampton just in the next 2, 1.71 (58%). That draw could easily be vital for Leicester in other scenarios, it's definitely not meaningless.
I don’t know why the focus is on Leicester, Chelsea’s fixtures are awful!
edited because I can’t read fixture lists it looks like
Chelsea still have a shite run in
edited because I can’t read fixture lists it looks like
Chelsea still have a shite run in
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We have Chelsea in the cup.
Chelsea play United in the cup. It's Sheffield, Norwich, Liverpool and Wolves. 2 games where you can see them drop, 2 easy wins probably.
Why on earth does everyone seem to think we’re playing them in the league?
This fixture is the FA Cup semi final at Wembley. We played them twice in the league and beat the 4-0 at OT, 2-0 away.
Think you're confusing our FA cup game in there. We don't play Chelsea in the league again this season.
Wtf are we playing chelsea?
Agreed, I think Villa will be a tough match but let’s hope we have too much for them.
For some reason I am nervous about Southampton. Hasenhüttl is a good coach, they've just beaten City, we are quite likely to rest some of the starting XI during the Saints/Palace/West Ham run.
Leicester also have a tricky run. I can see all three clubs dropping a few along the way. It's going to come down to the final game at the King Power.
Leicester have 1 point on us if we win at Villa. So if they win all their games, it won't matter if we win all our games.
bite! bite! bite!
bite! bite! bite!
If Chelsea drop 8 points in those games I'll get a tattoo of Ole on my face. If we drop 6 or fewer, you have to pay me £50. Deal?
Insightful.
edit damn!
I think it's because when you google Man United fixtures, the way google lays it out doesn't show any difference between competitions.
Nah I miss read the fixtures that’s the FA cup, what a balls up I made, tried to fix it but I’ve lost the post
We play against them on final day.
We must beat Villa tomorrow, no excuses if we dont
I think what is interesting is how confident most of us are that we, more likely than not, will win all our remaining games. Lets hope the players don’t have the same attitude, cause if you relax during squeeky bum time, you’re bound to get fekked...
Lets focus on ourselves, and treat every game as the cup final it actually is!
Lets focus on ourselves, and treat every game as the cup final it actually is!
Gonna predict before the final day:
United to win 3 and draw 1 of the next 4, leading up to Leicester - 65 points
Leicester to lose to Spurs and win the other 2 - 65 points
Chelsea to lose to Liverpool and win the other 2 - 66 points
So the point actually is a bit annoying today, but at the same time, Palace away for us being the hardest game means we can easily win all 4. Means we'll need a win away to them, unless we manage to make up 9 goals on them (Leicester with wins vs Bournemouth away, Sheffield home, loss vs Arsenal, and United with 3 wins from Villa/Southampton/Palace/West ham). Tomorrow will decide if we can actually do it IMO, as a nice 4-0 would be the only hope for that I'd say. Would need 2 4-0's against West ham and Villa, and get +1 on Leicester with the Palace and Southampton games vs them against Bournemouth and Sheffield. Unlikely. Anyway, if in January you asked us if we could get top 4 with a win against Leicester, we'd have taken that.
Plus as back up, I do think City will be banned next year anyway (just for the 1 year), and then Europa League we are by a distance the best side there who will be the most motivated IMO. But we'll see for that.
United to win 3 and draw 1 of the next 4, leading up to Leicester - 65 points
Leicester to lose to Spurs and win the other 2 - 65 points
Chelsea to lose to Liverpool and win the other 2 - 66 points
So the point actually is a bit annoying today, but at the same time, Palace away for us being the hardest game means we can easily win all 4. Means we'll need a win away to them, unless we manage to make up 9 goals on them (Leicester with wins vs Bournemouth away, Sheffield home, loss vs Arsenal, and United with 3 wins from Villa/Southampton/Palace/West ham). Tomorrow will decide if we can actually do it IMO, as a nice 4-0 would be the only hope for that I'd say. Would need 2 4-0's against West ham and Villa, and get +1 on Leicester with the Palace and Southampton games vs them against Bournemouth and Sheffield. Unlikely. Anyway, if in January you asked us if we could get top 4 with a win against Leicester, we'd have taken that.
Plus as back up, I do think City will be banned next year anyway (just for the 1 year), and then Europa League we are by a distance the best side there who will be the most motivated IMO. But we'll see for that.
It’s in our hands
Some of you are clearly off your meds
And its not even at old Trafford... It's a t Wembley
This is the right attitude. We'll need to rotate a bit at some point, so hopefully we can get some decent performances from Williams, Fred, McTominay and Ighalo. I'm also hoping that Mourinho does us a favour and takes points off Leicester. You owe us, Jose.
I hate Nketiah
1st half against Villa they managed 1 shot on target and looked more like a disinterested group than determined to break records.
Chelseas need will be greater for that match and Lampard is a lucky general so don't be surprised if its another poxy Chelsea win.
Fixed.
Aye I spotted but the floods of messages pushed so far I couldn’t amend it in timeSome of you are clearly off your meds
And its not even at old Trafford... It's a t Wembley
point remains though Chelsea have a torrid fixture list
Arse of all people helping us out. Since Chelsea seems hell bent on securing 3rd, Leicester is the one who has to drop points.
We must defeat Villa; and then just one point behind Leicester, they will crumble.
We must defeat Villa; and then just one point behind Leicester, they will crumble.
Sheffield United, Norwich, Wolves and Liverpool.
It's not that bad. 9 points for me.
Quoted for posterity.